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#1578542
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<strong>The Jedi Purge</strong> | The Empire hunting down the Jedi Knights | a general discussion
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Imagine watching the OT first where we are told Vader took out all the Jedi and we end with Luke as the last one.

In the end, we only see Vader hunting down . . . Children. The other Jedi are pursued by these inquisitors whom Tarkin seems to have no knowledge about in ANH. We also have a Jedi hiding on every block of every planet in the Star Wars galaxy. This effectively means Vader failed in spectacular fashion.

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#1573576
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Star Wars Rebels Recut - A Fanedit TV Series
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Using Ian’s actual voice is the way to go versus the robotic AI. Also, the change to Vader’s voice does somewhat make him sound like a younger Jones as well even if it still a bit off. Then again, I believe the closest you will ever get to the Vader voice from a New Hope is using the voice actor Ryan Golden who does an excellent impression. This is not something that really should be expected as your edit of the voice is more than passable.

P.S. It is much appreciated that you are constantly improving upon your edit of Rebels.

On another matter, in your Tales of the Rebels episode about Caleb, the Bad Batch portion works out really well. However, I personally did not find the comic book story with the smuggler compelling. I think it might be best to just go with the name change being done to hide his identity to hide from Order 66. I know that would make the episode way too short so it could just be left as is for those who want that story.

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#1573145
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Smudger9's Bad Batch Movie Series [EP1: RELEASED; EP2: WIP]
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I watched through this edit. I expected it to be very good as I skimmed through the changelog. The effort level was clearly there. Personally, I watched this specifically looking for a movie that connects the dots with the rest of the Star Wars universe. I was not specifically interested in a story about the Bad Batch. The only Bad Batch content that I watched previously were the opening scene involving Caleb/Kanan and the Ryloth saga to connect with Rebels. (Leaving out the Ryloth portion was the correct decision as it was too far off to be a necessary inclusion, but for those interested I recommend watching Rebels Recut by g00b).

This edit far and above exceeded my expectations. I really believed I watched a highly entertaining, emotionally compelling, and strong character-driven story.

I was very skeptical of the Bad Batch characters as they were portrayed briefly in the Clone Wars. Therefore, leaving the Clone Wars bit out was clearly the correct decision. To my own surprise, I found myself loving all of the characters. They came across wonderfully, warts and all other shenanigans. The edit really put in strong character development.

Considering I have not watched most of the material beforehand, I felt the story flowed very smoothly. Not once did I scratch my head and wonder what was going on despite all the cuts, transitions, and rearranged material. The story really flowed smoothly. From the opening crawl all the way to the ending, I was engaged the whole way through - I never found myself even a bit bored. This was an action-packed, fast paced movie that goes by quickly in spite of the nearly 3 hour length.

The edit without question gave me what I wanted going in. That is, I wanted to see the story of the transition from the clones to professional recruits, and I was not disappointed in the slightest in that regard. I also liked the bit involving the bounty hunters who were recruited by the Kaminoans with competing visions.

The only issue I have, and this is not something an edit can fix, is the whole concept of the inhibitor chip. I was never a big fan of it. I would have always preferred more of the concept of free will, which is why I really loved Crosshair removing the inhibitor chip and choosing to be evil voluntarily, including the massacre of innocent civilians. This is very dark, but it humanizes the clones.

Overall, this is an A+ edit and I think it can enjoyed by people who are not Star Wars fans who simply want a good story. I highly recommend everybody in this forum to take a crack at this one.

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#1572724
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Indiana Jones Crystal Skull - a 15MaF revisit (2D and 3D)
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I have watched this one as well. Overall, a massive improvement over the original.

  • Eliminating the entire clear scene was the correct decision. However, at about the 17:32 mark you left Indiana telling the FBI he survived a nuclear blast. Other than that, the removal was completely smooth. I could not tell that something was missing.

  • The opening of the credits look like they were rendered in 3D as I was seeing double on my 2D television.

  • All the other edits, including those by 15MaF really made this movie much improved than what it originally was. I also think restoring Mutt as Indy’s son was the correct decision even though the whole father-son relationship was very sloppy in this one compared to what we got in The Last Crusade.

Overall, the edit made this movie much more tolerable. However, there are things that an edit cannot fix about this movie. For example, the motivations by the Soviets over the skull were unclear. Did they want psychic mind control or knowledge? Marion went from despising Indy to madly in love in about 2 seconds, and this recycled their similar love-hate plot from Raiders anyway. The main villain was defeated by aliens because she was overwhelmed with their knowledge?

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#1571806
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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom ultimate cut (PG)
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First and foremost I want to thank kg1977 on the hard work on this edit. It was truly well done and a very enjoyable experience. This is an edit I strongly recommend for others to enjoy as well.

As I look through the cut list, nearly everything you cut would have been the correct decision regardless of whether you were looking for a family friendly edition or not. The cuts really helped with some of the pacing issues the movie had and minimized portions of the movie where things were over exaggerated, such as the dinner scene with all of the special “food.” It looks like a lot of the poor dialogue that diminished the characters and felt annoying were also removed.

This is a great edit even for some adults. There are many adults who would not like to see a heart ripped out. I may edit that sequence back in for a separate more personal copy if I decide for a more gory version of the movie. However, some of the other more graphic elements you removed really do not need to be reinserted in a more graphic edit. As stated in your cut list, we can still see and hear what is going on. Trimming out an extra few seconds helps the pacing. We really do not need those graphic close ups as the audience can understand what is going on.

The enhanced FX were a very nice tough. These are things the casual viewer (like me) do not typically notice.

The only noticeable issue I saw around the 23:17 mark during the meal with the shaman. There was a quick and awkward cut when we are shown a shocked look by Indiana Jones for a split second that goes by a bit too quickly. This is really only a minor issue and I would not even bother correcting it unless there are more revisions you had in mind. I also know you were working various other edits that should also take priority.

If this edit is any indication, then the rest of your Indiana Jones edits will be a fun watch as well. I was planning to watch them chronologically according to what year they were set so TOD took place before Raiders, which will be up next.

Thank you again and I greatly appreciate the work you and other editors put into this.

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#1570044
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Star Wars: The Legend of the Solo Twins - Released!
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I want to thank 21C Peasent for all the hard work on this edit. While not perfect considering the source material, I think this version of the sequels is probably best overall.

We have sequels that keep Rey as a Palpatine or keep her as a Nobody, but it is nice to make her an actual Skywalker. I myself, will be tweaking a few things for personal enjoyment, and I do not say this as an insult. We all have slightly different preferences.

I definitely felt that AI lines worked mostly well. I think a hardcore viewer would notice, but not someone watching casually. I also like how you completely removed the useless side quests pertaining to shutting down the hyperspace tracking and sith wayfinder dagger shenanigans. That was a straightforward way to eliminate useless plot points that had no effect on the outcome of either movie. I think the space battle where the resistance escaped in the pods needed a bit more background, but overall well done.

I think I could hear the chants revealing Snoke’s identity. I would have preferred it to be more clear so I will make it more clear in my own copy. Nonetheless, I think the Snoke insert into the sith throne worked mostly well. The reused dialogue fit in almost seamlessly. It did feel a bit clunky and rushed at times, but it is still much better than what we got with Palpatine. I definitely hope another skilled editor takes the mantle and expands on the strong foundation you put in place.

Another poster referenced that the fan film voices for Vader and Kylo were off. I personally felt the Kylo voice in the mask sounded very identical. The Vader one was more blatant. However, I do not believe the AI available to the public at this stage could replicate the Vader voice from ESB and ROTJ. It would need a voice actor. Either way, as a hallucination and fanedit, I do not believe we need absolute perfection.

Overall, thank you for providing a new and entertaining twist to the story. While not perfect, this is my current preferred version of the sequels that minmizes the damage from the utterly bizarre plots that we were given. Other editors like Hal, Neverar, and others also deserve credit as I could tell elements of their edits were present as you stated.

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#1566429
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The Rise of Skywalker: Untold (WIP)
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As I am now introduced to this thread, I must say there are a lot of interesting ideas. I hope you can accomplish what you are looking for.

I think I like the notion of Hux surviving and avoiding any betrayal. His betrayal and quick assassination went by so quickly and felt very cheap watching it. There is no perfect solution here for that, but the best of the bad solutions is to probably just show him with a few repurposed shots. Perhaps there is a possibility of AI added dialogue for him? I wonder if the actor has dialogue from another TV show or movie that can be repurposed for brief use?

The notion of Leia force healing Ben, which leads to her death, is the correct and logical choice. Another editor, Acbagel, has a work print of an edit to this movie. I liked what he did there. He had an illusion of Han Solo distract Kylo that led to him dropping the lightsaber. After that, Rey leaves without participating the healing process. Only Leia is involved. I think your added dialogue with that would be an excellent fit.

The Acbagel edit also uses an ending with Rey dying and Kylo on Tatooine burying the lightsabers. The material there could at least be partially useful for what you are trying to accomplish.

On another matter, there is another major edit to the sequels with information found here: https://www.reddit.com/r/fanedits/s/9JmdYVdwcE.

The planned release is for December. That edit plans to make Rey a lost twin of Ben Solo and has Snoke on Exegol (with an apparent Sith identity to be revealed). I have no idea how this will turn out, but the sample clips posted by the editor 21C Peasant on his YouTube channel look well done. There may not be anything relevant there for you, but this is one to keep your eye on just in case there is something you would like to incorporate if it turns out excellent.

https://m.youtube.com/@21cpeasant91/videos

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#1566113
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Should Dave Filoni Run The Creative Team at LucasFilm
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I will always “enjoy” how Rebels completely delegitimized the OT. In the OT, we are told the Jedi are long gone because Vader wiped them out. In Rebels, we have Jedi force users, and force using trees, whales, and wolves popping up on every street corner of the Star Wars galaxy.

Can Disney/Lucasfilm please hand over total control to the people behind Andor [and Rogue One]? I know I am dreaming, but confidence in Filoni after Ahsoka is completely unwarranted.

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#1565445
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(The Last Jedi) Fate of the Jedi | A Star Wars Legends Re-edit [Workprint Released]
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I have gotten around to watching this. Oh my was this an almost entirely different feel for the movie. When I first watched the movie in theaters, I walked out after watching Leia’s space flight. That was the final straw for me as I could not stand the characters of both Luke and Leia being completely disrespected and distorted.

  • I loved Luke coming to save the day multiple times with newfound ancient knowledge. That was truly a master stroke. In particular, removing Holdo’s “redemption” was an absolute necessity. Her snarky and nasty attitude was poorly conceived and completely illogical.

  • I really loved the musical score you incorporated. It gave the movie a more emotional feel to it. For obvious reasons, Star Wars coupled with emotional music really allows you to connect to the characters - good and evil - much more.

  • Great decision having Kylo actually fire on Leia. There is no logical reason for him to kill his father and be unable to do so for his mother. It was far too early for him to turn to the light, even if very brief.

  • Good decisions all the way removing any form of unnecessary [toilet] humor. These are out of place in Star Wars movies.

  • I loved force ghost Luke and seeing him in the world between worlds. A nice way to pay respects to a legendary character.

  • Your ending was much better with the Palpatine voice. A movie like this must end with an ominous omen.

==> I am really confused about the plot point of completely ending the Jedi order. At the end of the movie, Luke tells Kylo that he will not be the last Jedi while referencing Leia (or possibly Rey). How does that fit with Luke specifically telling Rey twice in your edit that he wants the Jedi to come to an end, but then comes to contradict himself at the end? I understand he recognized their failures, but I think it would be better if Luke never explicitly states that he wants the Jedi to end. We should have a reformation of the Jedi code versus the outright elimination. The complete abandonment is overly defeatist and in contradiction to Legends Luke.

Yoda effectively tells this to Luke in the movie, but in different words about changing the ways of the Jedi. I also think it is unnecessary for Luke to explicitly tell Yoda he is burning everything all down. We can jump straight to Yoda doing it. I would also suggest removing Yoda’s laughing as we are dealing with a very serious situation at this point. I also believe Yoda should not reference ending the Jedi order, but imply a reformation instead.

Another tiny nitpick I have is that Yoda calls Luke “young” Skywalker. In this movie, he is not exactly young. I think it demeans him as others are labeling him a legend.

Thank you for all the hard work you put into this and your other edits. It is quite clear you put in an unbelievable amount of work. I can feel the passion put into your edits. Job well done.

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#1565152
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(The Force Awakens) Heirs of the Force | A Star Wars Legends Re-edit [Workprint Released]
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Acbagel,

I hope the children are well as well as the rest of your family.

After a lengthy period of time, I finally was able to watch the work print. This was quite impressive in really altering the first of the sequel trilogy for the better.

  1. I do have one strong opinion with regard to making this more in line with legends material and the Luke Skywalker of the OT. The Luke we originally were introduced to was very active in taking the initiative. He was not passively waiting around to make things happen.

In the dream sequence in the end, I would strongly recommend adding a line or two from Luke advising Rey to come to him. The audience could interpret this as his actual communication or just a force illusion, but we really should have Luke taking charge. This enhances his character in a very simple and subtle way. This demonstrates that he was not simply waiting around hoping for the best. It also shows he was not a whiny quitter as portrayed in the next movie.

I think this could function as a parallel to Obi Wan telling Luke to go to Yoda in ESB with Luke advising Rey to go to him.

  1. I scoured through many of the comments here, and I share many of the complimentary sentiments along with your goals for this edit that I believe really worked well. There are many to list, but I will briefly go over a few.
  • Thank you for giving back some dignity to Han Solo’s character. I mean, did we really need to have him as a criminal smuggler again? This was a lazy plot point. Not to mention his relationship with Leia completely falling apart was rather extreme.

  • The rearranged opening worked a lot better versus the theatrical order of things.

  • While still over the top for me, it was good to have Rey’s force use diminished and more gradual. I understand you cannot remove all of it without the story becoming overly incoherent. The one that still is highly problematic was Rey force grabbing Luke’s lightsaber while overpowering Kylo Ren for it in the process. There is no way she should be able to have superior force use in that scenario. Is there a way to cleanly remove Kylo trying to take the lightsaber and only show Rey reaching out for it?

  • I also liked removal of the eradication of another planet. As you stated, this was just another plot point that made this movie resemble ANH. This gave the movie a more unique feel to it.

  • In this edit, Finn is a likable character and not a pathetic joke. This might be the most impressive feat.

  1. I caught 3 audio transition issues:
  • Around the 22:40 mark we hear the offer for junk while still in the prior scene.
  • At around the 25:25 mark going into a conversation between Kylo and Hux, they start talking while we see Finn in the prior scene.
  • Unfortunately, there was a third audio transition towards the end of the movie that I neglected to note down and cannot remember where it was. I think it happened around the First Order abandoning the base, but not certain. If I have a chance, I will look for it again.

==> Overall, I like that you incorporate good ideas from various different editors. If you ever do get back to this, I am confident you can incorporate what other editors have incorporated since your last revision in the last few years to make this movie the best quality possible.

Thank you for your hard work.

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#1564672
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❕ <strong>Welcome to the OriginalTrilogy.com |</strong> Introduce yourself in here | <strong>Useful info within</strong> ❕
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wickedwargames said:

Hey all. WW here, looking for info and links to all current LOTR edits. I posted on reddit and someone helpful directed me here. I can already see some other projects I’m interested in like the terminator and Bladerunner (reckon I could even get my dad to watch that!)

Please direct me to the appropriate threads. I looked in the other properties and found some LOTR but I’ve done so much digging already on the internet that engaging in even more digging on here seems a bit pointless when I bet someone has literally posted something akin to this same search recently.

Kind Regards - WW

Here:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Kerrs-Lord-Of-The-Rings-Fan-Edits-Extended-Editions-by-Hal9000Sharkey-Released/id/64504

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Rings-of-Power-The-Film-Cut-Released-Workprint-stages-finished/id/98927

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#1562114
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A thread for reporting any spam seen on the site
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screams in the void said:

I’ve been noticing massive amounts of spam across the boards lately , too many to copy and show here . noticing most of it in the late night or early morning hours and a lot of it being for illegal and illicit activities . The mods seem to be on top of it ,but I’ve never seen so much of it . banned member using sock accounts ? If so , they are pretty stupid. I’m guessing it’s just a matter of time before they get tracked somehow and hopefully receive harsh consequences for illegal activities .

There should be a way to auto-detect these spam bots and auto-delete them. These are becoming way over the top. I understand this may be easy for me to say though.

I am concerned that an unsuspecting user may accidentally click on one of the spam links and thus install malware onto their device.

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#1561515
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Star Wars Rebels Recut - A Fanedit TV Series
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I think you had a slight error in your last post. S01E05 should be S01E01.

You really are doing “yeoman’s work” on this edit. Your paying attention to minor details, such ad Vader’s voice, really is excellent to see.

As an aside, it certainly does look like the Ahsoka show is another Rebels season. This might belong under this category of edit.

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#1560661
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Star Wars Rebels Recut - A Fanedit TV Series
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  • The recolor here is excellent and works much better than the original- great job here.

  • I also like the removal of the facial expressions to minimize the cartoonish nature of the duel.

  • I like the removal of the dialogue with fake Kanan because it was just childish and added nothing. However, I feel it is a bit of an issue if we see Kanan just suddenly appear in front of Ezra. From Ezra’s perspective, it should come across as suspicious that Kanan, who was behind him, now suddenly appears in front of him.

I think you should include a second or two of fake Kanan approaching from behind without the dialogue and running in front of Ezra. That way, from Ezra’s perspective (and first time viewer) it would not be obvious that we are dealing with a force illusion.

Thank you for all the hard work you put into this and ongoing development.

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#1560377
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The Rings of Power - The Film Cut [Released - Workprint stages finished]
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This brief review is by no means an insult to the editor (Andreas or Anjohan). The actual show itself was unwatchable. I could not watch it all the way through. I thought it was an extreme b*sdtardization of the Lord of the Rings franchise. Truly horrible.

With this edit, I was able to comfortably watch it all the way through. I still thought the content was awful, but that is not the fault of the editor - he did not write nor direct the show. There is only so much one can do to clean up this mess. In fact, I commend Andreas for being able to make this show at least watchable one time through in this movie edit. I would not have even thought that was possible. If someone really needs to watch this, please bypass the actual show and go with this edit rather than the full Amazon version.

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#1559761
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The Phantom Menace - Vader Edition (WIP)
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The Spence edit does a decent job of getting through the underwater Otah Gungah sequence very quickly. It felt a bit rushed, but I also feel there is no “clean” way to get through it without serious cuts. I would also remove all the slobbering that Spence did not cut.

The sea monster Chase was also removed, but that could be reintegrated without the Jar Jar dialogue. Besides, the monster chase gives us decent early action in the midst of an excess of dialogue.