- Force new users through a rules acknowledgment step, especially emphasizing “no link requests.”
I think this should be universal for all fan edit forums. It will prevent a lot of confusion for new users.
I would not take the attacks over at the Fanedit Reddit forum personally. A few of those folks tend to get a bit puritanical when editing certain movies.
Besides, my fanedit philosophy has always been that if you are not interested, then no need to comment or attack. We have way too many real problems in this world to get upset over fan edits.
Anyway, I have enjoyed some of your edits. Keep up the solid work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVGtjNlTxlI
Someone made an AI video right after the twilight of the apprentice episode of Vader having a brief discussion with the emperor. I wonder if this can be animated by someone to be incorporated into the Rebels series. I know that would be highly unlikely though.
I have been eagerly looking for this for a long time.
I think a few months back you were going to have Vader’s fighter light speed away after getting shot by the Falcon. Is that still accurate?
Is it realistic to wrap up all the plot threads that go unresolved?
Either way I am fully on board with your focus being on Andor. I fully expect it to have stronger content versus Bad Batch season 3.
I am interested in the new Maul show. However, I think the show is effectively redundant with what we got out of Maul in the Clone Wars.
He becomes head of a crime syndicate, takes on a new apprentice, and then inevitably loses everything.
This is effectively the same plot.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vyVINMIl3kU
This animated preview of Son of Dathomir could be something to pay attention to as it could be very relevant for this edit.
I agree that version B just feels more natural.
On another note, do we really need Finn’s constant interruptions? It breaks the flow and tension.
Best of luck any way this turns out.
Years ago I proposed that the film started with Luke on Dagobah completing his training by creating his lightsaber telekinetically. Yoda dies, having trained Luke and not just in mid sentence. Luke returns to Tatooine only to discover that in her inpatience Leia has already attempted to rescue Han and failed. Luke then has to rescue the rescue. It means shifting some scenes around and construction of new shots. But the technology to do so is almost upon us.
You actually don’t need new shots (If you assume Luke has been training the whole time and built his lightsaber sometime between V and VI). That’s pretty much how my cut runs. You just need a new crawl that says Luke is now a full Jedi Knight and will soon leave Dagobah to join Leia in a daring plan yada yada. If you wanna see that section I can render it out and post a link.
*It looks like you posted thus multiple times by accident.
I personally would love to see how you worked this out.
The Padme’s father scene is really quite good. If you look at it carefully, it does look off. However, a casual viewer probably would not notice anything if they were not staring off to the side.
Working with acbagel to align this show with his excellent Way of Mandalore is absolutely spectacular news. This whole edit has taken leaps and bounds these last few years. Every time I think there cannot possibly be more, we get a new surprise.
Best wishes to both of you on the edit and your personal lives as well.
This is a solid work print here.
I think for the musical score it should be changed up a little bit. I think some aspects of this variant Vader theme would work after Boba informs Vader:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fNtkuqzN3zs
I also like the opening voiceover and flying through hyperspace in this animated version of the Vader-Boba interaction. It really draws in your attention right away and gives the audience a quick introduction to Boba and his mission. It could work.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfk6XPuxExs
==> One way or another, thank you for the work and looking forward to the finished product. I am glad someone is attempting to get this nice moment into a live action scene.
Will there be major differences between the movie(s) and episodes?
==> Thank you for the continuous hard work. Always appreciated.
You snuck in some fairly serious news in there g00b.
Nice to know you are working on the clone wars canon series. Looking forward to it.
The stuff posted was impressive.
I am in Los Angeles and consider myself “fortunate” to only have a blackout the last two days and hope this is the worst of it.
Unfortunately, people have died and thousands of people have lost their homes with nearly everything they had.
The color correction in the photos look solid.
I do like your stated intentions in the post about the over-explaining problem in this movie. Eliminating the entire opening sounds good. It helps getting that same information gradually as the movie goes on.
HOW DARE YOU REMOVE MAUL! . . . this is a joke. 🤠
I was wondering about other possible cuts you made:
There were various cuts like these that I think worked well in the edit of this movie by Digmodification.
https://fanedit.org/star-wars-the-coaxium-heist/
Did you change the origin of how he got the name Solo?
I think the movie could use a title change and even an opening crawl (if feasible). The title “Solo” is not something that makes you think, “I want to watch this.” Also, Star Wars movies are always better with the crawls in my view.
Examples of both would also be in the edit by Digmodification.
Anyway, please do not take these as demands. Just curiosity. Always happy to have more fan editors explore their personal visions.
I think he is updating all the animations for consistency throughout. That will take some time.
It will be a while for the rest of the Thrawn trilogy, but the wait is worth it considering the quality.
As long as the same people are involved I agree completely.
In the world we live in throwing more money at something does not mean better results.
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Phantom-Menace-edit-Jar-Jar-RE-DUBBED-Completed/id/70825
I would check out the redubbed Jar Jar and Neimodians in English. I think it mostly works. It is much more convenient than heavy use of subtitles.
Thanks for the Thanksgiving holiday present (if you are in the USA).
Based on the runtime of the movie, it looks like you included most of the deleted scenes from HBP. Out of curiosity, which ones did you leave out?
Does upscaling require you to literally leave your computer (or other equipment) on for 1 - 2 weeks consecutively?
If confirmed, that sounds power-intensive.
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Were there a few brief isolated moments when Rukh basically is talking to himself or thinking out loud? I think those would be natural moments for him to use his native language.
Perhaps moments when he is shouting or in shock. Personally, I think people would tend to think in their native language and use their language when angry.
This sounds worse than the series. Giving PIP a voice, & Darth Plagueis an apprentice!?
I thought the Pio voice worked very well. It became a droid with an attitude similar to 3P0 and R2 in the Original Trilogy.
The Plageuis having an aporentice was likely typed in error. His appearance was moved to a different and more appropriate spot. Nothing more than that.
First and foremost I want to thank Smudger for sharing the edit with me. I will have plenty to say in favor and some differences. Also, I do want to say nothing here is personal. Our entertainment and judgment is extremely subjective. Editing is hard and time consuming work. I could tell that a lot of time and passion went into this.
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I tried to include rough timestamps when feasible.
==> I do not believe we need the entire ‘flashback’ opening. Characters reveal most of this information through dialogue during the show making it redundant anyway. Having the information come out gradually I think is much stronger as characters discuss it and the audience learns gradually. Tension builds up instead of having more of a rollercoaster effect. There is also a lot of obnoxious and hostile behavior from Indara and Torbin that drag down the content overall in my view. Their characters are unlikeable and unsympathetic. Their early hostility to the girls can get people to believe they had their murders coming. Then we have Sol constantly begging everyone else for permission to do anything - he has no agency whatsoever.
There is no reason why Sol should know a vergence in the force would create life. Why would any Jedi know this? This concept should be related to the dark side as seen in ROTS. We never see any indication from Jedi connecting the force with life creation - just Palpatine when speaking with Anakin. I think the force-life connection should be limited to dark side users like Palpatine tells Anakin.
I know you removed explicit references to the twins creation early on, but I think references to Brendok being a lifeless planet, the witches, and the vergence in the force still functions as an obvious spoiler to the twins being force creations in the end. It feels more powerful when Sol will reveal this later on in dialogue with Mae. Leave the surprise for the end.
Witches indicate the girls have no father. Too much information revealed too early. Makes it too obvious the girls were force creations. It should be revealed as a surprise in the end to Osha and the audience at the same time.
14:10 Indara mentioning the girls are too old. I always felt this was a poor concept from the Phantom Menace that is almost always (correctly) removed from edits of that movie. Anakin, OSHA, and Mae were all very small children. What age is acceptable for Jedi training? Do you need to be a baby?
15:33 Torbin taking Mae’s blood sample. Another bad prequel idea. Do we really need genetic testing for Jedi and strength in the force? It should be mystical and something force users can sense. Blood should be unnecessary.
21:30 Around here the Jedi council look like morons. They were sent to Brendok to investigate, but now apparently they “interfered too much?” An investigation requires interference. Otherwise what is the point if you are not allowed to do anything?
Child Mae telling Osha she will kill her also eliminates the murder mystery. It is obvious she lives considering we are not shown her dead body, and is the murdererer instead of Osha. A first time viewer can easily believe Osha is the killer if they have no idea she has a sister that will be initially introduced a bit later. In addition, Mae directly telling Osha she will kill her and starting the deadly fire makes Osha’s restored faith in her sister in the end less believeable.
*Moving on from the opening sequence here:
I think you could have briefly included a disguised Mae looking for Indara offering the bribe. It would take a minute or so. No need for any footage entering the bar.
28:30 I really do not believe the Jedi mind tricks by Yord are needed to intimidate the Neimodians to find Osha. The Jedi look a bit overaggressive and Neimodians overly defensive for no reason. There is no reason for them to have conflict right now. I would jump straight to Yord talking to Osha.
30:10 I would remove the age concern about Osha becoming a Jedi. Again, she was a small child - what is age appropriate for a Jedi? The only concern should be about her inner darkness. This makes the Jedi come across as much more reasonable.
31:30 I would remove the bar owner witness. It comes across as awkward and breaks the tension between Osha and Yord.
35:20 I am not a big fan of the Jedi-senate feud subplot involving Vernestra. I think it distracts from the rest of the story. Also, if Sol agrees with Vernestra’s corrupt views, then this is no longer just one rogue Jedi. Sol should no longer trust Vernestra if she outright tells him to engage in corrupt activities while he genuinely cares for Osha. He looks stupid every time he talks to her later on.
42:30 Cut Jecki questioning Yord’s involvement. Her response is odd “He is Yord.”
44:40 In the dream with little Mae, having her say she will kill them all again eliminates any murder mystery and surprise.
52:50 Sol asking about Osha’s tatoo appears is pointless as it is never used to differentiate the twins. Adds nothing to the story.
54:23 If feasible, I would remove the bad behavior and bad acting from the heavy Jedi. I was cringing a lot seeing him squirming with the child who was resisting him. If you could bypass that and make the kid seem like she is cooperating voluntarily. Otherwise, it seems incredibly inappropriate for the Jedi to be aggressive towards children.
1:10:10 I think you can cut Jecki asking the guy about the “big and hairy wookie” and cut straight to her reporting what the locals are saying. You benefit with tighter pacing and get the same information without the awkward question.
1:32:45 Do we need the Sith revelation here? Contradicts Phantom Menace outright where Palpatine/Maul mention they will reveal themselves at that later point in time. Besides, the audience can figure out he is a Sith. No need to spell it out.
Qimir states he wants to be hidden, so why make the Sith declaration? If word of that gets out, then Jedi would make him their top target, which is exactly the opposite of his stated goal to remain hidden.
1:43 The voiceover by Indara while Mae is walking appears pointless.
I think a lot of Bazil on the ship sniffing around can be cut. His appearance can be brief. Bazil does not help in any way here.
1:45:56 I am personally opposed to the senate vs Jedi feud. This should be an era of prosperity and peace in the republic. Even 1 senator going after the Jedi at this point would be ludicrous.
1:52:12 Bazil wrestling with Mae was pointless. Nothing was accomplished one way or another. Just an awkward moment and slows down pacing.
2:11:21 Again we have senate vs Jedi. The senator is expressing views without any evidence to support it. His claim that one of them will snap is a blatant reference to Vader. Do we really need that Captain Obvious moment? Most people watching the Acolyte know exactly who he refers to, but why would he have this suspicion?
In no other Star Wars content do we get a hint of this war between the senate and the Jedi. We need to be in an era of peace and prosperity, not paranoia.
2:27:10 - I think when Sol reveals here the “creation” of the girls he provides too much specific information. I would remove all references to the witches creating life and the force. I would stick to Sol mentioning an unspecified vergence and the planet. If witches can create life through the force, then we should have seen that more often in the Star Wars universe. Also, I think it would be best to have the life creating force dialogue left to the Sith like Palpatine in ROTS discussing it with Anakin. I think you should leave this portion as vague as possible.
***Also, the Plageuis cameo is best right here after Sol stops talking. This is where he learns for the first time about a vergence creating life and thus creating a bridge here to the prequels. I should note this was an idea implemented in an edit by Movies Remastered.
2:29:25 Again the too old to train. She was a small child!
2:37 I think Vernestra mentioning to the senate that Sol killed all the Jedi should be left out. Something like that should raise serious alarm bells to the senate. Her lying about a cover up by Sol should be enough. I think there could be an assumption that the Jedi were killed fighting by the force using witches instead. Also, the senator demanding the investigation should also be cut. If a Jedi were powerful enough to slaughter several Jedi, then of course the senate should investigate. They would be insane not to do that.
==> I am speculating this is probably outside the scope of what you normally do with your edits, but check out the edit by Movies Remastered where Pip was given dialogue. Lots of character was added and I thought would match up well with the OT 3P0 and R2D2 at their humorous best while providing a nice supporting role to Osha.
I again want to thank the editor for sharing this with me. I do strongly recommend other to give this edit a chance. I know I left what may seem like many differences, but those are just a tiny fraction of what really was a very good edit. It was fun, entertaining, and gripping. Smudger’s edits of Andor and first 2 seasons of The Bad Batch were also top of the line folks - check those out as well.