hiphats

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Join date: 18-Jan-2005
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Post: #90588
Topic: Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90588/action/topic#90588
Time: 28-Jan-2005 9:36 PM

I just heard the MP3 of the original mono mix just now...and it truly sounds both warm and crisp at the same time (reminds you of those old vinyl records). This is the best sounding mono mix that exists.

For those who didn't catch an earlier post...this is a mix I last heard in 1979. I was at the old Starlite Drive-in theatre in my hometown of Sacramento, CA and my brother and I saw "Star Wars" there. It was a mono sound print. Not only that, but it was cropped to 1.85:1 (the screen I saw could not accomodate 'scope prints). This reissue print had the "Empire Strikes Back" trailer at the end (the one narrated by Harrison Ford).

I hope to one day do a DVD-R of my own using this sound mix, that is, until whoever creates their "ultimate" DVD-R first, in which case I will see his/her work.

If your computer can't handle torrents or .rar decoding, E-mail me and let me know and I'll see what I can do to help you.

hiphats@comcast.net

Post: #90505
Topic: Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90505/action/topic#90505
Time: 28-Jan-2005 3:08 AM

Somewhere out there, there actually is. I saw a clip from the original mono mix version taken off of a tape dub from a UK broadcast that is in better quality, so perhaps someone has that high quality dub. Or, at least a dub of a better copy. E-mail me and let me know if you do. I might use it someday for comparison purposes, or maybe someone might want to make that DVD-R project using the mono soundtrack. One person I know is planning to do just that.

Post: #90428
Topic: Help Wanted: an MP3 of the 1.0 mono mix from the pre-ANH projects?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90428/action/topic#90428
Time: 27-Jan-2005 6:48 PM

I wouldn't mind having this too. Maybe I can do my own reconstruction.

You know where to reach me.

Post: #90421
Topic: .: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90421/action/topic#90421
Time: 27-Jan-2005 6:27 PM

hips here, Zion. I too am interested in seeing your project. Send me either an E-mail or private message.

Post: #90329
Topic: Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/90329/action/topic#90329
Time: 27-Jan-2005 12:54 PM

I think ocpmovie should be aware of something while putting together the final version of the documentary...

1. Key scenes with alternate audio from the original mono version of ANH should be included. Some of these scenes already have in the clips we've seen so far. The scene where Aunt Beru shouts "Luke, Luke!" after Luke sees the unfinished holographic message from R2 isn't there thus far.
2. In "The Empire Strikes Back", pay attention to 3PO during the carbon-freezing sequence. Remember his line "I'm not ready to die..."? Watch 3PO's movements and you'll be able to tell he was supposed to say something more. The "Story Of The Empire Strikes Back" LP has his additional dialogue ("I'm not ready to die in the back of a demented Wookie!" --referring to, of course, Chewbacca putting the droid's head on backwards). Does anyone out there have a good transfer of this rare LP?

That's all I can think of right now. If anyone else can think of more, this is the thread to do it.

Post: #89634
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/89634/action/topic#89634
Time: 25-Jan-2005 2:05 PM

I'll ask the same thing Neil did...if anyone has the disc with the mono track you're willing to share with me, PM (Private message) me, and I'll see what can be arranged.

Post: #89627
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/89627/action/topic#89627
Time: 25-Jan-2005 1:16 PM

Now if I can just seek the DVD-R with the original mono mix as an audio option...

Post: #89612
Topic: Star Wars: Deleted Magic (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/89612/action/topic#89612
Time: 25-Jan-2005 12:26 PM

This is a really neat documentary...so far. A lot of this material I have never seen before, while some I have. But then again, the "edit" represents, more or less, the "Star Wars" that might have been.

Use of the original 1977 mono soundtrack is very effective here, since I have not seen the version with that soundtrack in 25 years.

I would like to see the Death Star scenes with the mono soundtrack in this documentary.

Oh, and please, do get this documentary finished in time for Episode III.

Post: #89215
Topic: Idea: My idea for the ultimate pre-ANH edition
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/89215/action/topic#89215
Time: 24-Jan-2005 2:54 PM — Edited 1-Jul-2020 8:10 PM

I hope someone out there will have the know-how to create the ultimate DVD-R of STAR WARS pre-ANH. This would be, like a previous DVD-R, a recreation of the original 1977 theatrical print with the digitally re-created original crawl, minus the “Episode IV” tag.

Here’s my idea of what it would contain:

*Audio options (LD “Definitive Collection” commentary, original mono soundtrack, 2.0 surround taken from the Definitive Collection [without 3P0’s “tractor beam” speech], 5.1 remix with 3PO’s dialogue, and isolated score track)
*DVD-ROM artwork
Digital master of the original version, color-corrected and sharpened

Anyone else have a better idea for the ultimate DVD-R edition?

Post: #87825
Topic: Info: Any Interest In A Corrected 2004 DVD? (“Deliberate Creative Decisions” info)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/87825/action/topic#87825
Time: 20-Jan-2005 12:14 PM

To quote Luke in "Return Of The Jedi", I'm with you too! Count me in!!!

Post: #87566
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/87566/action/topic#87566
Time: 19-Jan-2005 1:00 PM

Well, to be quite honest, when you've put as much time, effort and money into these projects as I or Laserman or Gonzo or any of the other handful of people who have done this, it's kinda hard to just "let it go". While internet notoriety is a nice thing, it doesn't completely make up for the "family time" that was missed, or the bills that need to be paid. I still kinda shake my head when people complain about having to spend more than 5 bucks on one of these versions. They just don't get the fact that you cannot simply "rip-&-burn" LD versions like you can another DVD. It is apples to oranges, big time. I thought I would have been done with my versions at least a year ago, if not more, but better technology and techniques keep coming my way, which has required even more time and money. As I've said a couple of times, unlike the Studios, I don't have the volume for cost-effective economy of scale. Selling a DVD for 5 bucks does nothing to amortize the money I've put into this project (close to $2,000, and Laserman has spent more than me.)

As for myself, I'm kinda one of those people who transfer from LD-to-DVD (or even VHS to DVD) using the simple things, and though not the Hollywood-style job most people do with their LD-to-DVD or VHS-to-DVD transfers, it's something. I take the LaserDisc or tape signal and feed it to my TV Tuner inside my PC, then use InterVideo WinDVR to record, TMPG Encoder to convert the file to a DVD-compliant picture, DVDIt! to author and burn to hard drive, and then either Sonic RecordNow DX or InstantCopy to burn to DVD-R. Of course, I don't have the software to do the DVD-R in Dolby Digital AC-3 (it can only do PCM audio), but at least it's the cost-efficient way of transferring LDs or tapes to DVD-Rs if you can't afford the money to do a top-notch job. Now you know how I did the 1997 Special Editions and the individual making-of documentaries.

And as I mentioned before, I don't mind sharing my work with others so long as they have at least some digital archive of the versions of the Star Wars movies Lucas doesn't want on video anymore.

Post: #87553
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/87553/action/topic#87553
Time: 19-Jan-2005 12:15 PM

Like Bizzle, I also had strict instructions that no copies of this set were to be made, nor to mention who the creators were. Although I think it's a wonderful set and everyone should have it, it's not the wish of the creators. I find it more than a little lacking in consideration for someone not to honor that request.

Don't worry, Dr. Gonzo. I'm sure somewhere out there, in the far away heavens of the Earth, there will be someone else such as MeBeJedi (or even myself) that will do their own "definitive" DVD-R versions of the original incarnations of the trilogy that they won't mind sharing, simply because there will always be those fans who will continue to try their hand at preserving the Star Wars films as we originally saw them in theatres.

Heck, I've even preserved the 1997 Special Editions on DVD-R for historical reference, warts and all, even though they themselves have been superceded by the 2004 versions.

Post: #87444
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/87444/action/topic#87444
Time: 19-Jan-2005 2:40 AM

So now that this SW disc is going to be out there, what would you guys think of offering up ESB and ROTJ to Rik or MeBe for distribution among this little community?

Or to hiphats...I'd like to see this too.

null

P.S. Null in this case is slang for "answer back".

Post: #87298
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/87298/action/topic#87298
Time: 18-Jan-2005 10:49 PM

MeBeJedi, it's gonna take a lot of work to make this happen. From what I'm told, this VHS telecine is from a 16MM print that looks...well, not the best. But with proper software, the mono soundtrack (which I'm told is good) can be synched to the picture from the original version.

Currently, I can do DVD-R discs in PCM sound (not AC-3 as I don't have the proper software to do that yet)...that's how I did my transfers of the 1997 Special Editions to DVD-R, and each one necessitated two discs a title, since I had to get the supplementary material on them also (for instance, "A New Hope" includes the original special "The Making Of Star Wars" plus two clips from the original mono version with Aunt Beru and a before-and-after comparison of the Jabba scene; "Empire" includes "SPFX: The Making Of The Empire Strikes Back" [CBS special]; and "Jedi" includes "From Star Wars to Jedi: The Making Of A Saga" [PBS special]--I chose that over "Classic Creatures: The Making Of Return of the Jedi" as I didn't care very much for it.).

Post: #87271
Topic: The "EditDroid" Trilogy DVD Info and Feedback Thread (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/87271/action/topic#87271
Time: 18-Jan-2005 9:59 PM

If you look closely at the font in the opening crawl (as seen in the "Empire Of Dreams" documentary), you will tell that it is much slimmer than the font represented in the recreation. Whoever transferred this version apparently would have spent much more money doing a visual restoration of the crawl as all that was available to him (aside from the print represented on the "Dreams" documentary) was a 16MM telecine, and that contains the original mono soundtrack, so it is quite obvious the opening crawl on the recreated DVD was computer generated. I think whoever did this otherwise perfect job is to be commended for recreating, as much as possible, the original theatrical experience.

Of course, as we now know, there were different "original versions", as explained by Ben Burtt in the commentary track of the "A New Hope" DVD. There is, of course, the one with the original mono soundtrack, then there was a 2-channel Dolby track, and a 6-channel Dolby track (for the 70MM prints). Each one has varying differences in dialogue and sound effects. The recreated DVD could have possibly been recreated to resemble one of the stereo prints, since the version I originally saw in my local Century Complex in Sacramento, CA in 1977 (or was it '78?) was a 35MM 2-channel Dolby print with the redubbed Aunt Beru voice, the different Death Star voice (i.e. "30 seconds and closing'), and minus 3PO's explanation of the tractor beam.

I also did see the original mono version, in a 35MM cropped 1.85:1 print at the Starlite Drive-in (also in Sacramento, and since been demolished). This had the original Aunt Beru voice, the original Death Star voice, and 3PO's explanation of the tractor beam. This print also had a trailer for "The Empire Strikes Back" at the end of the credits (the one with Harrison Ford's narration). The "Story Of Star Wars" album was also based on the mono version.

I would like to see the mono version in some form. E-mail me if you could.