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- Community Focus Thread 2: Return of the Jedi
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That would be cool, would it just be reusing empire footage with maybe an ai voice?
That would be cool, would it just be reusing empire footage with maybe an ai voice?
With ai and deepfake technology I think we could finally pull off a good ROTJ Hayden. I’ve seen a deepfake attempt on the unmasking scene but it wasn’t that good. Anyone up for it? I’ll try to find some older Hayden clips to replace the ghost.
Your Empire edit sounds great, can I get a link?
I’ll try to render out a final version of my AotC edit with this scene edited in. I used Snooker’s rescore and sfx as a base, upon which I remixed the sound levels, added missing sfx, and then added in custom wipe transitions between the deleted scene of Padme in the Senate and then the scene in Palpatine’s office.
The rest of the edit is a hybrid of L8wtr’s and Hal9000’s with a few of my own cuts in there. I think it might be best to just create a thread for this “hybrid/mashup” edit with all the changes listed there in case anyone is interested in downloading. This started as just a personal edit for private viewing but I feel some might like it with the Kenobi series scene in there and the rescored transition of Padme and Anakin kissing to Kamino that originally was a little too abrupt for my taste in the Hal9000 edit.
This sounds perfect! I’d love to check it out once it’s done.
This sounds fantastic! The grogu VFX will do wonders for the season. I think it would be fun to use this as a base for a film edit once it’s complete too.
Can I get a link? Looks great!
I would try to edit that in myself and see how it works but I’m not sure I have the skill to create the transition from the crawl to the scene lol.
Hi, I started watching this episode and it’s great so far! Will post my thoughts once finishing it. One thing I would argue for the beginning though is to reinstate a version of the first scene, as it introduces Mando in a much cooler way. In this version, the crawl states he’s an expert bounty hunter, but the first scene we get with Din is a dinosaur wiping the floor with him. Seeing how cool he is for his first scene would do a lot, although it would add to the runtime slightly.
Somewhat unrelated, but after the Filoni movie announcement I’ve been thinking of ways to combine all these shows into one storyline - it might be cool to label the movie saga as Heir to the Empire and have the subtitle be the focus. S1 could be The Mandalorian, S2 could be The Jedi, Boba could be The Bounty Hunter, and S3 could relate to Bo. Then Ahsoka would follow a similar theme, and eventually the real movie. This way all the shows could follow one storyline with each “film” focusing on a different thing.
Hi, can I get a new link? The old ones are broken I think. Thanks!
My ultimate TROS dream is to somehow create a scene where Finn incites a stormtrooper rebellion, and to maybe have some regular Stormtroopers fight against the red extra evil Stormtroopers at the end. Maybe a hologram message with AI voice lines?
Now that AI voices are a thing, is there anything we want to change for this version? Ascendant’s Rey nobody is already great, but I think it can hit a lot harder with some new lines. I think some kylo lines in the hangar/force fight would be the easiest place to start.
I wonder if we could AI generate a Poe line to fill that gap where he talks about light speed skipping, that was pretty much the only noticable cut in V2.
I think Obi-Wan being harsh to Anakin is good set up for Anakin’s whiny behavior about him throughout the movie, actually. But that is mostly edited out in an edit such as Hal’s. So your version would work best in an edit that follows his approach, for sure.
Does anybody have any plans on incorporating this in an edit? I know Bobson expressed interest in creating an AOTC ultra-extended edition (can’t wait for that!).
I have incorporated it into my own personal edit of the film which is essentially just a fanedit mashup of Hal9000’s and L8wtr’s with some of my own touches here and there, like adding in the training scene best I could and rescoring the transition from Anakin and Padme kissing to Kamino which I found to be originally a bit harsh in Hal9000’s edit.
I am quite happy with how my own personal edit turned out in regards to adding in the training scene.
I’d love to check that out if you’re willing to share it, sounds great!
That shot of Ben silhouetted in the twin suns is fantastic. I would love to see that completed as an alternate ending even if it’s not used in this project.
I would be interested in that! What scenes are you planning to add for V2?
Just re-read the changes, and it sounds amazing, I can’t wait! I’ll be eagerly watching for any updates.
What was the reason for changing the line in the first place if I may ask? I interpret the line as Leia quitting because she is afraid of losing her son, only to realize that the only way to save her son and the galaxy is to embrace her Jedi training despite the fact that Ben might die in the process. If anything it would be cool to lean into this as a sort of character arc and imply that maybe throughout the movie she’s struggling with the choice to help save the galaxy and lose Ben or do nothing. This also explains why her corpse disappears only when Ben does. And, at the end of the day, they both still get a happy ending, as they’re reunited as ghosts thanks to Jonh.
That would be great if it looked a little better, I think with how far deepfaking has come we could get that to look fantastic. I have no idea how to go about doing that, though.
I asked this a little bit ago, but does anyone know if someone has attempted to remove the other jedi in the Palpatine/Mace fight? I swore I saw a clip of something like that a long time ago but I can’t find it again. Wish there was a search feature, lol. If not, how hard would it be to achieve that?
It probably wouldn’t fit anywhere in the crawl, but I wish there was a way to elaborate on why there’s no Republic fleet to counter the FO. What makes the most sense to me is that the Republic demilitarized after ROTJ fearing they would become another Empire, and are funding the Resistance in secret to fight them, but that’s not explained very well in the actual film.
Can’t wait for a V2 whenever you start it back up, this edit’s my favorite!
That transition is perfect. I think the visuals are pretty close too, with the de aging and all. As long as the music is integrated well I probably wouldn’t notice at all if I was a first time viewer.
Quote from Reddit:
"Probably the thing that frustrates me the most about the sequels is that their version of Star Wars after Endor has good themes at play- a vision of the galaxy that grew so tired of war that they made peace with evil, enabled it and accepted it and in doing so, failed the galaxy, failed their own ideals, and eventually brought about their own downfall through that fatal sin of complacency.
That is a good, modern, cynical take of what happens after Return of the Jedi, a galaxy where the battle against evil is just as much a battle against the complacency and corruption of the victors as it is a violent and ideological confrontation with what remains of the previous villains. And the movies do a truely remarkably awful job of selling or exploring that conflict."
I really like this interpretation, is there any way to emphasize this theme throughout the trilogy? I think this would help in TFA especially, my biggest problem with the sequels was always the lack of explanation behind the New Republic/Resistance/FO relationship.
Some ideas for the Palpatine confrontation in ROTS:
Edit out the three Jedi that Mace takes to the fight so Mace goes alone - this fixes three of the best Jedi masters getting taken out with almost zero resistance, and adds to Mace’s character as he instantly goes to take on Palpatine with no help. This could also help Anakin’s turn since it makes Mace more rash, even though Anakin never sees these deaths.
Make the Palpatine face reveal morph from his normal face to his evil face. I’m not sure if that’s possible but the light dimming effect never worked for me.
Have these been attempted before? I have a vague memory of seeing both of these done in some aspect but I’m not sure if they were ever ready to be implemented into an edit.
Has anyone successfully removed the Luke/Leia attraction from ANH and ESB? It’s only like a handful of lines and the kiss scene and obviously goes nowhere, would be much better without them.
Congrats! I can’t wait to finally start jumping into the episodes now that they are complete and mostly polished. One question - would it make sense to watch The Bad Batch after this, or is some of their context omitted in this version of the show?