I always thought the tivik scene/kill Galen parts should be included, it makes up a large part of Cassian’s arc in the film. Especially now with Andor and Luthen’s ideology it needs to be reinserted.
Lmao, I think blade’s finally canceled so I guess we can take that one off. Now that Thunderbolts is out I think it’s the ideal choice to end phase 4. It’s the closest thing to a classic team up that we have and moves the general MCU storyline forward in a big way. This being the end of phase 4 acts as a nice finale to an “aftermath of Endgame” phase where our characters are dealing with that fallout and the absence of the classic avengers. So it could go like this:
Every movie here deals with the aftermath of Endgame in some way. Loki kicks off the multiversal storylines and Hawkeye introduces Yelena again before Thunderbolts.
We’ll need to see Doomsday and Secret Wars to know what’s really necessary to view before those films, but I’d like to condense these multiverse phases into 2 instead of 3 so you’re getting more quality products. Maybe phase 5 could go:
This removes some stuff that could possibly be important like She Hulk, Thor’s kid, Cassie Lang, Brave New World/Eternals, etc. but I’m gonna hope that these can be edited around when avengers drops. If not a 6th phase could be added.
What still needs to be done for the Nobody version? I think the current nobody version works pretty well already, I’ve spliced it with the newer ascendant updates for my own definitive version until something new comes up.
I’d agree on Hayden if the footage they used wasn’t so terrible. If they actually got Hayden and filmed a new shot it would have looked way better. I remember someone using the ahsoka footage as a replacement and that looked pretty good.
Has anyone ever made it so that both R2 and Threepio get their memories wiped at the end of ROTS? I can’t really remember a time when it’s necessary for him to have those memories and it would keep the OT simpler.
Anyone have a link? Thanks!
Can’t wait to see more! Interested to see how you’ll integrate the flashbacks without sticking on them for too long while still keeping the necessary context.
I don’t mind the ship taking off, it just implies that they leave together to go do sith shenanigans.
Sad that Disney canceled it, I really liked seeing a different time period and some new characters. I would definitely keep Plagueis and cut Yoda. Maybe you can cut Osha saying she will try to find her sister at the end. I would also fix that doubled knife audio in the beginning fight.
Would you consider adding a classic star wars crawl? The pan down to the surface may be hard since the text is over top of the pan, but maybe a new planet shot could be created to pan down from. Can’t wait for the new version!
Those clips look great! The AI voices sound pretty good, although I feel like Luke talks a tad bit slower than he should during the flashback.
Side question, does there exist a version of the Rey/Palpatine fight where Leia’s saber is purple, but there are no ghosts? Was thinking of doing this for my own edit which uses Spence’s ending with the purple saber because I love how it looks against all the blue of Exogol.
I like how the less ambiguous line sounds, and the Anakin reference is cool. I would remove the stronger than blood line, though, it feels kind of separated from the rest of the dialogue and Rey isn’t exactly blood related to Palpatine so I feel like it doesn’t make as much sense in context. Maybe just leave a pause where that line is.
Here’s a way to mix the multiverse and 616 stories together:
PHASE 4
PHASE 5
This keeps the multiverse relevant throughout the whole saga, and allows for big finale movies at the end of the phases. Then phase 6 could maybe look like this:
The Defenders/Echo stuff can be in their own saga of TV shows that are actually meant for TV and not movies shoehorned into a TV format. Of course this all depends on how phase 6 actually turns out and who shows up where in the future.
I agree, this saga is so disconnected that it desperately needs a restructure to make it not boring. I like keeping all the multiverse stuff in phase 5, and I like how the all the phases are equal in length now. I would replace Thor with Black Panther 2 just because Thor 4 is awful and I’d rather just not see him. Would watching Daredevil before Hawkeye be confusing if kingpin gets sent to prison at the end? Maybe it would be better to put echo after Hawkeye instead depending on how it introduces Matt (haven’t watched it yet).
Alternatively, I’d love to see someone make a Defenders phase of movie edits:
This could be optional viewing or you could watch it between phases 3 and 4.
Not sure if anyone has caught this yet but at around 1:15:30 there’s a stray frame of the Ahch-To establishing shot before it cuts to Finn/Rose.
You could also say that Rey leaving to face Ben and Snoke before she’s ready is the same thing that happened to Luke in Empire when he got his ass handed to him. And at least in TLJ, Luke’s right, it doesn’t go the way she thinks.
I interpreted Luke’s statements as Luke specifically not being able to save Ben, since he was responsible for his turn. It would be like Obi Wan trying to redeem Vader, it’s never gonna happen.
Looks awesome! I’d love a link to book 3 when you’re ready. I really like the structure of book 1, here’s a couple things I noticed:
I think the cut where Mando puts mythrol in Carbonite is a little too abrupt, I think it would be better to extend it a little bit. I like the buildup seeing Mando’s gun closet and other bounties. Gives a good sense of the character as an intro.
I don’t know how much you color graded these, but I feel that it’s a little too saturated and not as crisp of an image as it could be. Book 2 looks better, though.
Overall I think it works great, can’t wait to see the new updates.
I would cut the “final lesson” line, I think it makes less sense in this version and would make the convo flow a little better. And the lines get a little more room to breathe.
“Pushing Ben toward the throne was my greatest fear. What are you most afraid of?”
“Myself.”
"Because you’re a Palpatine? The force made us, Rey, to end him.
Confronting fear is the destiny of a Jedi. Your destiny…"
I changed “that throne” to “the throne,” sounds a little more natural to me.
“We’ll always be with you” sounds fine to me, but I agree that the Leia line sounds a little off.
Sounds great! I’d love a link to both of the updated chapters when they’re ready.
Any V2 updates?
Honestly I’d probably just remove Palpatine’s line at the start, I’m not a huge fan of how it makes Snoke seem like a straight up meat puppet for Palpatine instead of his own autonomous character that Palpatine and his followers engineered. It also makes a bit more sense for Kylo to go and pray to the Vader mask if he didn’t just find out that Palpatine is screwing with him through it. Will probably do that for my personal cut.
I think leaving the Vader fight with no dialogue would work the best, allows for more interpretation. Vader didn’t talk in Luke’s vision either.
I’d love to see a mock-up of the Vader vision, I think that could be a really cool scene. What’s the dialogue look like right now?
I think the “We’ve become a dyad line” sounds good, I probably wouldn’t notice if I didn’t know. Might be worth it just to see how it sounds, and if it doesn’t work, the original is still ok.