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One more order that integrates most of the Multiverse stories:

Phase 1

1. Iron Man
2. The First Avenger
3. Agent Carter (one shot or show)
4. Captain Marvel
5. Incredible Hulk
6. Iron Man 2
7. Thor
8. Avengers

Phase 2

1. Guardians of the Galaxy
2. Thor: The Dark World
3. Iron Man 3
4. The Winter Soldier
5. Age of Ultron
6. Guardians 2
7. Ant Man
8. Civil War

Phase 3

1. Black Panther
2. Homecoming
3. Black Widow
4. Doctor Strange
5. Ant Man and the Wasp
6. Thor: Ragnarok
7. Infinity War
8. Endgame

Phase 4 - Spiderverse

1. Loki
2. Far From Home
3. Spider-Man
4. Spider-Man 2
5. Spider-Man 3
6. Amazing Spider-Man
7. Amazing Spider-Man 2
8. No Way Home

Phase 5 - Aftermath

1. Falcon and the Winter Soldier
2. Thor: Love and Thunder
3. Hawkeye
4. Guardians 3
5. Ant Man: Quantumania
6. Wakanda Forever
7. Shang Chi
8. Thunderbolts

Phase 6 - Mutants

1. Loki 2
2. X-Men
3. X2
4. First Class
5. Days of Future Past
6. Deadpool
7. Logan
8. Deadpool and Wolverine

Phase 7 - Collision

1. WandaVision
2. Multiverse of Madness
3. Ms Marvel
4. The Marvels
5. Fantastic Four
6. Brand New Day
7. Doomsday
8. Secret Wars

4 phases for the Multiverse Saga, 2 focused on other universes and 2 focused on our main universe one after the other. Loki serves as the gateway into both of the Multiverse phases. All X Men cameos now come after the X Men phase. All phases culminate in one big “team up” movie now. Only films I left out are eternals and brave new world as I don’t see them impacting the MCU moving forward, but could go in phase 7. You now have complete context for everything besides some Deadpool and Wolverine cameos.

My ideal order for the Multiverse saga at the moment involves two phases of ten projects each, making it slightly shorter than the Infinity Saga. I tried to include projects that I think will be relevant to Doomsday and Secret Wars and exclude the projects that are lower in quality and don’t affect the main story as much.

Phase 4

• Loki
• Spider-Man: Far From Home
• Thor: Love and Thunder
• Falcon and the Winter Soldier
• Hawkeye
• WandaVision
• Ant Man: Quantumania
• GOTG 3
• Loki 2
• Thunderbolts

Phase 5

• Spider-Man: No Way Home
• Doctor Strange 2
• Shang Chi
• Ms Marvel
• The Marvels
• Wakanda Forever
• Fantastic Four
• Spider-Man: Brand New Day
• Doomsday
• Secret Wars

Quantumania is only included to introduce Cassie, so depending on her introduction in Doomsday and Secret Wars, that could be replaced with something else, because that movie is not great. I originally had the GOTG Holiday Special taking its spot. Deadpool 3 isn’t included either because it doesn’t impact the main MCU at all and I don’t think it’s very good either. But we do know Gambit will show up, so you could add it in if you like it.

Thinking of attempting a film edit of season one that just serves to set up the new movie and ignores seasons 2 and 3 - a kind of alternate continuity where Din and Grogu never split up. This would get rid of Fennec/Boba and keep Gideon dead at the end of season one. Would maybe include some of the ice spider episode from season 2 to fill out the middle and set up Carson Teva so we could end on the scene where Din joins the New Republic. Of course you’d have to wait and see what gets referenced in the new movie, but I suspect they’ll keep it simple for people who haven’t seen past season 1. He even has his old ship back.

I’m at about 2 hr 33 min with credits right now.

Art by Sam Dunn

I’ve been wanting film versions of all the MCU Disney Plus series for a while now, so I thought I’d start making my own. Loki was one of my favorite series of the bunch, so I’m starting there. The goal is to make a feature film that feels like it could have been released in the theater alongside other MCU films. My rough cut is sitting at 154 minutes with credits - I’d like to get below 150, though.

Broad changelist:

Episode 1

• Removed log of everything Loki’s ever said
• Removed temporal aura machine
• Removed Mobius cathedral introduction
• Trimmed Loki’s trial
• Removed Loki and Mobius walking to elevator
• Various trims to Mobius and Loki’s convo
• Removed Loki escaping, he now stays in the room and watches his reel while Mobius steps out. If anyone is skilled at VFX and would like to try removing Mobius’s baton in this scene that would be great.
• Removed 1850s Oklahoma attack

Episode 2

• Replaced Oklahoma attack with Renaissance fair attack
• Removed all indication that this is set in the 1980s, including rescoring fight from I Need a Hero to a track from the score
• Cut from Loki getting his jacket to Mobius taking Loki to look at documents
• Cut Loki talking to librarian
• Trimmed Loki’s salt and pepper metaphor
• Cut from Pompeii to Mobius and Loki retrieving Kablooie wrapper
• Cut from Loki finding the hurricane disaster to them arriving in Alabama
• Cut B15 and Mobius bickering about who takes Loki

Episode 3

• Cut from Loki entering portal to him exiting on other side
• Cut C20 dinner scene
• After Loki and Sylvie leave for the town, cut to Mobius and Renslayer scene from opening of episode 4
• Cut the Lamentis town and go straight to the scene where Sylvie tells Loki that everyone at the TVA is a variant.
• Trimmed slightly since it’s coming earlier in their relationship development
• From here, Sylvie and Loki go to the train - removed Loki and Sylvie approaching
• Cut Loki asking about enchantment since Sylvie already told him
• Cut mention of couple from Lamentis town
• Trimmed Loki singing
• Cut all mention of the ark - after the tempad breaks and Sylvie screams/walks away, cut straight to scene in episode 4 until they get saved

Episode 4

• Cut Sylvie flashback
• Cut third Sif kick
• Cut Mobius and B15 scene
• Cut Loki’s speech to Sif
• Trimmed Loki’s interrogation
• Cut scene where Renslayer goes to retrieve Sylvie

Episode 5

• Follow Loki in the void until they reach the bunker
• Cut to Sylvie, trimmed and combined both of her scenes
• Cut Classic Loki’s backstory
• Cut everything with Sylvie and Mobius until they meet up with Loki
• Cut Renslayer and B15 scene
• Trimmed Loki and Sylvie’s chat

Episode 6

• Cut Miss Minutes in the castle and her scene with Renslayer
• Cut from He Who Remains showing the time logs to Mobius confronting Renslayer
• Combined both Mobius/Renslayer scenes, cut scene where B15 finds her variant
• Cut HWR realizing that he no longer knows what is going to happen. Now he lets Sylvie kill him willingly because he’s tired of running the TVA
• Trimmed some of the HWR fluff - he repeats a lot of exposition here
• Trimmed some of the fight between Loki and Sylvie
• Cut “Loki will return for season 2” since this is a movie now

If there are any other suggestions of what more to cut I’m open to ideas. I also admittedly have not watched season 2 yet, so if anything is cut that is important to the next season that would be helpful to know too. I’m working on audio now so this should be ready soon.

My dream is to have good movie edits for all the relevant shows because spending 4-5 hours on one entry screws the pacing of the phase as a whole. We have a great FatWS edit already so no need for that. Then we’d have these shows that I think are necessary:

• Loki
• Hawkeye
• Wandavision
• Ms Marvel
• Loki S2

I’ve seen a decent Hawkeye edit floating around, but I think the creator took it down. I’m currently playing with Loki S1 and trying to cut it down to 2.5 hours. Wandavision definitely does the best job at being an actual show, but I’d still like to see a film version, there have been movies with that premise so I think it could work.

I think that looks great, definitely worth finishing for use in other edits.

I always thought the tivik scene/kill Galen parts should be included, it makes up a large part of Cassian’s arc in the film. Especially now with Andor and Luthen’s ideology it needs to be reinserted.

Lmao, I think blade’s finally canceled so I guess we can take that one off. Now that Thunderbolts is out I think it’s the ideal choice to end phase 4. It’s the closest thing to a classic team up that we have and moves the general MCU storyline forward in a big way. This being the end of phase 4 acts as a nice finale to an “aftermath of Endgame” phase where our characters are dealing with that fallout and the absence of the classic avengers. So it could go like this:

1. Spider-Man: Far From Home
2. Falcon and the Winter Soldier
3. Loki
4. WandaVision
5. Hawkeye
6. Guardians 3
7. Spider-Man: No Way Home
8. Thunderbolts

Every movie here deals with the aftermath of Endgame in some way. Loki kicks off the multiversal storylines and Hawkeye introduces Yelena again before Thunderbolts.

We’ll need to see Doomsday and Secret Wars to know what’s really necessary to view before those films, but I’d like to condense these multiverse phases into 2 instead of 3 so you’re getting more quality products. Maybe phase 5 could go:

1. Doctor Strange MoM
2. Wakanda Forever
3. Fantastic Four
4. Shang Chi
5. Loki 2
6. Doomsday
7. Spider-Man 4
8. Secret Wars

This removes some stuff that could possibly be important like She Hulk, Thor’s kid, Cassie Lang, Brave New World/Eternals, etc. but I’m gonna hope that these can be edited around when avengers drops. If not a 6th phase could be added.

What still needs to be done for the Nobody version? I think the current nobody version works pretty well already, I’ve spliced it with the newer ascendant updates for my own definitive version until something new comes up.

I’d agree on Hayden if the footage they used wasn’t so terrible. If they actually got Hayden and filmed a new shot it would have looked way better. I remember someone using the ahsoka footage as a replacement and that looked pretty good.

Has anyone ever made it so that both R2 and Threepio get their memories wiped at the end of ROTS? I can’t really remember a time when it’s necessary for him to have those memories and it would keep the OT simpler.

Can’t wait to see more! Interested to see how you’ll integrate the flashbacks without sticking on them for too long while still keeping the necessary context.

I don’t mind the ship taking off, it just implies that they leave together to go do sith shenanigans.

Sad that Disney canceled it, I really liked seeing a different time period and some new characters. I would definitely keep Plagueis and cut Yoda. Maybe you can cut Osha saying she will try to find her sister at the end. I would also fix that doubled knife audio in the beginning fight.

Would you consider adding a classic star wars crawl? The pan down to the surface may be hard since the text is over top of the pan, but maybe a new planet shot could be created to pan down from. Can’t wait for the new version!

Those clips look great! The AI voices sound pretty good, although I feel like Luke talks a tad bit slower than he should during the flashback.

Side question, does there exist a version of the Rey/Palpatine fight where Leia’s saber is purple, but there are no ghosts? Was thinking of doing this for my own edit which uses Spence’s ending with the purple saber because I love how it looks against all the blue of Exogol.

I like how the less ambiguous line sounds, and the Anakin reference is cool. I would remove the stronger than blood line, though, it feels kind of separated from the rest of the dialogue and Rey isn’t exactly blood related to Palpatine so I feel like it doesn’t make as much sense in context. Maybe just leave a pause where that line is.

Here’s a way to mix the multiverse and 616 stories together:

PHASE 4

1. Loki
2. Spider-Man FFH
3. Falcon and the Winter Soldier
4. Hawkeye
5. GOTG Holiday Special
6. WandaVision
7. GOTG 3
8. Spider-Man NWH

PHASE 5

1. Doctor Strange MOM
2. Wakanda Forever
3. AMATW:Q
4. Shang Chi
5. Ms. Marvel
6. The Marvels
7. Loki 2
8. Deadpool and Wolverine

This keeps the multiverse relevant throughout the whole saga, and allows for big finale movies at the end of the phases. Then phase 6 could maybe look like this:

1. Captain America 4
2. Thunderbolts
3. Blade
4. Shang-Chi 2
5. Fantastic Four
6. Spider-Man 4
7. Avengers 5
8. Secret Wars

The Defenders/Echo stuff can be in their own saga of TV shows that are actually meant for TV and not movies shoehorned into a TV format. Of course this all depends on how phase 6 actually turns out and who shows up where in the future.

I agree, this saga is so disconnected that it desperately needs a restructure to make it not boring. I like keeping all the multiverse stuff in phase 5, and I like how the all the phases are equal in length now. I would replace Thor with Black Panther 2 just because Thor 4 is awful and I’d rather just not see him. Would watching Daredevil before Hawkeye be confusing if kingpin gets sent to prison at the end? Maybe it would be better to put echo after Hawkeye instead depending on how it introduces Matt (haven’t watched it yet).

Alternatively, I’d love to see someone make a Defenders phase of movie edits:

1. Daredevil S1
2. Jessica Jones S1
3. Daredevil S2
4. Luke Cage S1
5. Iron Fist S1
6. Defenders
7. Punisher S1
8. Daredevil S3

This could be optional viewing or you could watch it between phases 3 and 4.

Not sure if anyone has caught this yet but at around 1:15:30 there’s a stray frame of the Ahch-To establishing shot before it cuts to Finn/Rose.

You could also say that Rey leaving to face Ben and Snoke before she’s ready is the same thing that happened to Luke in Empire when he got his ass handed to him. And at least in TLJ, Luke’s right, it doesn’t go the way she thinks.

I interpreted Luke’s statements as Luke specifically not being able to save Ben, since he was responsible for his turn. It would be like Obi Wan trying to redeem Vader, it’s never gonna happen.

Looks awesome! I’d love a link to book 3 when you’re ready. I really like the structure of book 1, here’s a couple things I noticed:

• I think the cut where Mando puts mythrol in Carbonite is a little too abrupt, I think it would be better to extend it a little bit. I like the buildup seeing Mando’s gun closet and other bounties. Gives a good sense of the character as an intro.

• I don’t know how much you color graded these, but I feel that it’s a little too saturated and not as crisp of an image as it could be. Book 2 looks better, though.

Overall I think it works great, can’t wait to see the new updates.

I would cut the “final lesson” line, I think it makes less sense in this version and would make the convo flow a little better. And the lines get a little more room to breathe.

“Pushing Ben toward the throne was my greatest fear. What are you most afraid of?”

“Myself.”

"Because you’re a Palpatine? The force made us, Rey, to end him.

Confronting fear is the destiny of a Jedi. Your destiny…"

I changed “that throne” to “the throne,” sounds a little more natural to me.

“We’ll always be with you” sounds fine to me, but I agree that the Leia line sounds a little off.