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#104488
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Latinoreview.Com's ROTS review- SPOILERS within!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104488/action/topic#104488
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From LatinoReview.Com :

"Lucas Gets His Revenge
STAR WARS: EPISODE III -- REVENGE OF THE SITH
RATING: B

Starring: Starring Ewan McGregor, Natalie Portman, Hayden Christensen, Ian McDiarmid, Samuel L. Jackson, Christopher Lee Anthony Daniels, Kenny Baker, Frank Oz. Music by John Williams, Produced by Rick McCallum, Written and Directed by George Lucas.

Rated PG-13, Running Time 142 MINS, 2.40:1 Anamorphic Scope Aspect Ratio.

I guess it's pretty obvious that I'm a die-hard "Star Wars" fan. Well maybe not a die-hard fan, you'll never see me dress up in a "Star Wars" costume. Okay, I'll admit, that's a lie, but who has never dreamed of wielding a lightsaber or traveling the galaxy? George Lucas's space opera has touched the lives of millions and has reached fanatic and almost religious proportions. There are those who accept the films as pieces of entertainment and others whose lives revolve around it. One thing is for sure and that is the series has had a major impact on the way films are made and marketed today. George Lucas is no doubt an innovator, but personally with his unlimited resources, I'm extremely enthusiastic about his return to more experimental filmmaking. In the meantime with the release of "Revenge of the Sith" the "Star Wars" movie saga is about to come to a close.

Three years after the events of Episode III, the Galactic civil war known as the Clone Wars are in full swing. The conflict led by former Jedi turned Sith lord Count Dooku (Christopher Lee) has been brought directly in orbit of Coruscant, the capital planet of the Republic. In a bold move the Separatist forces have kidnapped Palpatine (Ian McDiarmid), Supreme Chancellor of the Republic. In one of the most beautifully designed action sequences of the entire saga Anakin Skywalker (Hayden Christensen) and Obi-Wan Kenobi (Ewan McGregor) pilot their star fighters in an attempt to reach the flagship of General Grievous, a lethal cyborg and commander of the enemy droid army. Not only is this wild ride through the battle visually stunning, but it's mostly done in one camera take with great attention to detail. The final space battle of "Return of the Jedi" pales in comparison as the camera tracks our two heroes, swooping between massive starships and explosions.

Obi-Wan and Anakin soon land aboard the lead starship and engage in a game of cat and mouse with robots before confronting Count Dooku and his apprentice General Grievous. Grievous is a part alien, part machine computer generated character skilled in lightsaber play despite an interesting asthmatic cough. Once Anakin and Obi-Wan rescue the Chancellor they find they must crash land the starship on the planet below before it burns up in orbit. As our heroes return home victorious, Anakin secretly rendezvous with his wife Padme (Natalie Portman) and discovers that she is several months pregnant. Despite the fact that exposure of their relationship could threaten their careers, Anakin is pleased at the news and sees it as a blessing.

As the war rages on several star systems, the Jedi Council determine that to put and end to the conflict General Grievous must be captured. They are also uncomfortable with the fact that Palpatine has remained in office for such an extended term and that his emergency powers granted by the Senate continues to grow. The politics of the "Star Wars" prequel trilogy have always been convoluted and incensed fans with too much exposition, but "Episode III" sheds some light on the heart of the situation. Palpatine oversteps his bounds by requesting that Anakin become his personal representative on the Jedi Council. The council is aware of Anakin's growing power, yet despite the fact that he has been prophesized as the chosen one to bring balance to the force, they feel he is too young for great responsibility. He is granted membership but not made a Master Jedi, which incenses Anakin because he feels he has earned a diplomatic position. The council puts further pressure on their young charge by encouraging him to spy on the Chancellor's dealings.

Anakin experiences turmoil brewing within him as he struggles between his allegiance to the Jedi and his growing friendship with mentor Palpatine. He sees the war as a conflict destroying the Republic and disagrees with Padme who feels they may be on the wrong side. "You sound like a Separatist," he angrily tells her when she expresses that the Chancellor should resort to diplomacy instead of military force. Anakin has more than politics on his mind as he suffers from horrible nightmares in which Padme experiences a dark fate. Hayden Christensen received much criticism and blame last time for a performance that was hindered by a poorly written role. Here we see that Anakin is still impulsive and headstrong, but has also matured and Christensen's physical and vocal performance shows confidence and a sign of the man we know he'll become. Anakin also knows that his dreams have a habit of coming true just as he foresaw his mother's death. Master Yoda (Frank Oz) counsels Anakin that fear of loss is what ails him and can lead to the dark side. He must let go of his attachments is he is to find peace, but Anakin is too emotionally attached to Padme and his fear will lead to his downfall.

As several star systems suffer from attack by Separatist forces, Yoda journeys to the Wookie planet of Kashyyyk to lead a defense. While Anakin struggles to be the Jedi he knows he should be, he's also dismayed that Obi-Wan is chosen over him to lead an attack on General Grievous who has been located on the planet of Utapau. His confidant Chancellor Palpatine is well aware of his anger and desire for more responsibility and the fact that he once slaughtered a tribe of Sand people over the death of his mother. He begins to place doubt in Anakin's mind over whether the Jedi trust him and reveals he knows a thing or two about the Force.

On Utapau Obi-Wan locates Grievous and leads an attack with an army of clone troopers. Back on Coruscant, Anakin's nightmares progress and he discovers the true identity of the Sith lord Darth Sidious. Apparently the "Phantom Menace" is none other than Chancellor Palpatine himself, who staged the blockade of "Episode I" to achieve sympathy for Padme's homeworld of Naboo so that the Senate would elect him Chancellor. He then recruited fallen Jedi Count Dooku to rally a war against the Republic, legitimizing his emergency powers and the creation of a clone army, which he completely controls. Now he has set his sights on Anakin, the chosen one created by the Force itself, to become his new apprentice. Anakin is torn between his loyalties to the Jedi, but intrigued that Sidious claims to know how to use the power of the dark side to preserve life. That skill could save Padme but Anakin knows that it will come at a price.

The essence of "Revenge of the Sith" is how Anakin Skywalker made a deal with the devil and sold his soul, ultimately becoming the villain we know as Darth Vader. Vader is perhaps the most recognized and beloved villains in cinematic history but this story of his origin portrays him in a new light. In the first two episodes we saw him grow from a young boy "who knows nothing of greed" to a bright and skilled yet impulsive young man. Here we learn that his downfall did not simply begin as a lust for power but the desire to save the love of his life. Christensen's performance works when he is a confident Jedi and skilled do-gooder and the romance between he and Portman is more believable and mature. But when his emotions rage and he gives in to his impulses it doesn't seem very credible how quickly this young man "flip-flops" to the dark side. Sidious does manage to convince Anakin that the Jedi are corrupt and that he wants to bring about
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#104473
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UPCOMING DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104473/action/topic#104473
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Originally posted by: Bossk
Yep. My wife and I plan to get the run of the series of DVD.

And now we get to start on Scrubs.

For those of you interested in Scrubs, it has been announced that Best Buy will have a bonus disc with their sets that includes more deleted scenes and an interview with Sarah Chalke. I know greencapt will be all over that one.


Crap! I was just at Best Buy today too... [drool]and HELL YEAH I'm all over that one![/drool]
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#104357
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Bill Hunt's DigitalBits ROTS review- SPOILERS be warned!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104357/action/topic#104357
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From http://www.thedigitalbits.com/ :

"Well, it seems that I promised you another film review today, didn't I? Let's get right to it then.

I have seen Episode III.

I can't tell you how strange it is to finally be able to say that. Like many of you out there, Star Wars was the film that first ignited my imagination back in 1977, and awakened in me a life-long interest in the cinema. And like many of you, I've been waiting 28 years for the Star Wars experience to be complete. I'm just so... well, it's hard to describe what I'm feeling right now. It's a very bittersweet thing. I've seen the last Star Wars film ever, and it feels somehow as if a major chapter of my life - one that in many ways has defined it - has closed. I know a lot of you are going to feel the same way come May 19th.

It's well after Midnight as I'm writing this. I'd planned to get this review up early yesterday evening, but my mind has been spinning all day, thinking about and absorbing and processing what I've seen. Honestly, far more powerful than Episode III itself could ever be, is simply the experience of finally seeing it. It's frankly going to require many weeks, and many more screenings of this film, before I really have any kind of perspective on it. But I promised you a review, so I'm going to give it my level best. I'll tell you one thing, silly though it may sound to some: This is probably the hardest film review I've ever had to write.

I'm going to describe the basic plot of Episode III in the paragraphs that follow, but because I know that many of you want to be unspoiled when you go into the theater on the 19th, I'll refrain from posting any major plot revelations. If you're a long-time Star Wars fan, and you already know the basic premise of Revenge of the Sith, you'll be fine reading this review. The rest of you should just click away now, and we'll see you back here on Monday. Believe me, I understand.

For those of you still with me... here goes:

It's been three years since the events of Episode II, and the Clone Wars have ravaged the galaxy. Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi have become legendary heroes of the conflict, having led the Republic's clone legions in many successful campaigns against the vast droid armies of the Separatists.

After a particularly fierce battle over Coruscant in which the cunning commander of the enemy forces, General Grievous, narrowly escapes, Anakin and Obi-Wan return to the capitol and learn that while the Jedi are spread precariously thin across the galaxy, the war seems to be turning in their favor. Despite this, however, the Senate continues to vote Chancellor Palpatine ever greater emergency powers, raising serious concerns among the Jedi Council.

Meanwhile, Anakin reveals to his secret wife, Padmé, that he's struggling to remain on the Jedi path. Despite the guidance of his friend and mentor, Obi-Wan, Anakin is having difficulty containing his ambitions. Soon after learning that Padmé is pregnant, he's plagued by nightmares of her death. Afraid of losing his love as he once lost his mother, Anakin becomes desperate... and vulnerable. Little does he know, the Dark Lord of the Sith is about to emerge from the shadows to complete a diabolical plan a thousand years in the making - a plan that will pit friend against friend, transform Republic into Empire... and forge Anakin's ultimate destiny.

I'll say it right now, I think most of you are going to really dig this film. As you've no doubt already heard, Revenge of the Sith is far darker and more intense than either of the two films that preceded it. It starts out with a bang, in an absolutely amazing sequence of edge-of-your-seat action and CG effects, then slows down for a time as the story's various levels of character and political intrigue begin evolving to their inevitable resolution. Thankfully, about halfway in, things start to really hit the fan and the tension builds almost exponentially until the film's final moments. What really makes Episode III work is its strong emotional thru-line. This is not a happy story, but Lucas has finally managed to make you connect with, and feel for, his characters in a visceral way. As one tragic set of events after another unfolds, it's very easy as a viewer to get caught up in the drama.

It also certainly helps that the second half of this film is NOTHING but the stuff we've all been waiting years to see. Lucas has hinted in past interviews at just how it was that Anakin came to be transformed into the formidable Darth Vader that we're all familiar with. Now you'll finally get to see that happen. Phantom and Clones were mere appetizers to this film (and they're actually diminished, I think, by comparison). Sith gives us, at long last, the main course of the prequel trilogy's backstory.

The acting is better in Episode III almost across the board. Gone is Hayden Christensen's occasional awkwardness as Anakin in the last film. Here he only has to brood and glower, but he does it well indeed. Natalie Portman (Padmé) and Ian McDiarmid (Palpatine) finally get to emote rather than just standing around in Kabuki apparel delivering flat dialogue about trade sanctions and executive orders. But the real stand-out of this film is Ewan McGregor, who absolutely nails the role of Obi-Wan Kenobi, perfectly capturing Alec Guinness' subtle nuances of performance in the original films. A real treat to watch here, McGregor too finally gets to express some genuine emotion for a change.

The CG animation, while still imparting a somewhat artificial beauty to the imagery, has never been more intricate and gorgeous to look at. The action, particularly the lightsaber battles, is easily the saga's best (and by a WIDE margin). Jar Jar Binks, though he appears briefly twice, never utters a single word (as 3P0 might say, "Thank the Maker!"). Better still, Revenge of the Sith is absolutely rife with hallmark, connective moments that firmly tie the prequel trilogy to A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. And there's one particularly interesting new piece of information we're given in Sith - something that I have to say came as a bit of a surprise to me. It's given almost in passing and not everyone I spoke with after the screening caught it, but if you do... it forces you to reconsider the complete saga in something of a new light.

All of this is not to say that Revenge of the Sith doesn't have its flaws. Several moments of juvenile humor early in the film seem very out of place given the dark and unsettling intensity of the last act. Trust me, this film is rated PG-13 for a reason. There's disturbing imagery here that is definitely not appropriate for younger children (although I applaud Lucas for having the wherewithal to give this film the more adult edge the story demands). The dialogue, while somewhat better than in the previous two films, still occasionally sounds flat. The Jedi continue to seem, for all their powers, to be a surprisingly clueless bunch (and they pay dearly for it). After the opening sequence, and before the film really takes off in the second half, there's a bit too much... well, padding is the best word for it. And while most of the various plot threads between the two trilogies are tied up nicely by the time the words 'Directed by George Lucas' appear on screen, there are a couple of minor inconsistencies that remain unresolved. I expect that entire books will be written in the years to come by die-hard fans attempting to resolve these outstanding issues.

All this aside, however, I believe it's fair to say that Lucas has crafted the best climax we could reasonably expect given the realities of The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones. While Revenge of the Sith is not a truly great film, it is EASILY the strongest of the three pr
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#104355
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WTF George and Steven?!?! More Indy 4 stuff...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104355/action/topic#104355
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
In 2099 would he be Robot, Alien, or Clone.

Maybe he could be all of them. Indiana Jones wakes up in 2099 to find that he is in fact a bionacally enhanced alien clone of the original Jones, and all the adventures we have watched over the years do not exist because he was just plugged into a VR machine all along.


LOL. Maybe that's what's wrong with GL! Actually I had written a short film treatment back in '97 about how GL had sold his soul to the devil after Howard the Duck came out, which is how he was able to rebound financially- but which is why his screws with everyone about the OT. Funny that 'South Park' came along and did basically the same thing. (and no, I'm not claiming they 'stole' my idea- I believe in coincidence- )
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#104353
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One good sign about ROTS (no spoilers, please...lol)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104353/action/topic#104353
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
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Originally posted by: greencapt
The rule of big movies tends to be, at least here in the States, that if the movie is known already to be a stinker there will be NO advance screenings so that the critics will have no time to flame it in advance.


Not always. Since "Psycho" Hitchcock didn't allow advanced screenings of his movies (kinda obvious why on Psycho's case). I think David Lynch didn't allow either, and I've heard of a few good films who also didn't - I can't remember which ones.


Oh there's lots of exceptions, I didn't mean to indicate that was the *only* criteria. I used to help runs advance shows at a bookstore I managed and trust me, we screened LOTS of crap in advance. LOTS. And I inmagine there aren't *too* many plot points to truly spoil in ROTS...
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#104152
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Any Star Wars TV stuff coming up?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104152/action/topic#104152
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Originally posted by: The Dark One
Hey gang,

I've been a member of these boards for some time and I never ventured off of the "preservation" board until russ sent me a link today in an email. These threads are great, I'm not pleased that I didn't wander into them before...oh well.

Anyways, I'm off to set the DVR to record a good chunk of these shows. I should have relevant DVDs posted to a.b.starwars when they're authored. I'll keep you posted.

D.O.


Hey Dark One! You're actually responsible for *my* being here at all these days, whether you know it or not. Thank you for your great posts at a.b.starwars!!! I found that newsgroup, which led me here and to myspleen... and the rest is history (well, recent history at least)
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#104190
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What're You Reading Right Now
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104190/action/topic#104190
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Originally posted by: JediSage
LOL...no, it wasn't like that. The Dark Knight Returns was written in 1986, and it tells the story of the end of Batman's career, set in the future. It was very dark and was the defining work of the time. Pretty much single handedly revived the Batman franchise at DC. He followed it up with Batman: Year One which was a 4 issue mini-series that "reset" the clock and retold the origin story. Again, awesome work that aided in the revitalization. Not as violent as you may think. Miller's strength lies (IMO) in using dialogue to create character.


And... if all goes well... the new 'Batman Begins' film should be very close to the tone of 'Batman: Year One'. (fingers crossed) I'm looking forward to it at least.

And Chaltab- if you ever are willing to take a chance on it, look for the hardcover book 'The Complete Frank Miller Batman'. Here is a

description..



IMHO its a great read and you can still find it around generally at a decent price.
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#104174
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How Many Times Have You Seen The Original Trilogy?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104174/action/topic#104174
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Originally posted by: Anakin's Mannequin

That's a good set of Trilogies. I'd definately throw in the Terminator trilogy (mainly for 1 and 2, but I could always grab a nap during 3 ). Maybe even include the Harry Potter quadrilogy.

I haven't seen the OT or PT anywhere near as most here I'm sure, so I'll keep my mouth shut. Maybe 10 times for each of the old ones, and 3 times on both of the PTs so far.


I'll throw in a couple of my own favorite trilogies: The Evil Dead trilogy and The 'Mariachi' trilogy (El Mariachi/Desperado/OUTIM)

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Originally posted by: JediSage
Actually, I was thinking about this recently. I realize many of us are from pretty far away, but has there ever been any thoughts of having a get together? Maybe an OTCon, or something? Perhaps that would be a good way to generate some press for our cause? Perhaps we could have two or three smaller ones in different locations and webcast them to eachother...I know it's probably just pie in the sky, but hey, never know.


I had thought about something like this as well and it would probably be a great idea. Maybe we could start with a group meeting at an already existing convention and grow from there. Something like Celebration, DragonCon, ComiCon, etc.?
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#104151
Topic
One good sign about ROTS (no spoilers, please...lol)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104151/action/topic#104151
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As far as I can remember, GL didn't allow any advance screenings of either of the other PT films, but there has already been a press screening of ROTS and there will be advance shows across the country on May 12th (and no I don't have tickets but I know that radio stations and the like will be giving them away).

The rule of big movies tends to be, at least here in the States, that if the movie is known already to be a stinker there will be NO advance screenings so that the critics will have no time to flame it in advance. An early show could actually be pretty ballsy on George's part and hopefully shows a confidence in the finished product.

The thing I guess I'm most looking forward to in this one is that from everything I've seen so far its actually starting to *feel* like Star Wars. Yeah, it'll be glossy and video game-like in appearence, but there is what looks to be tons of nods to the OT. I don't know if anyone else saw the E3 footage that was recently posted on a.b.starwars but... wow! This is not to say my faith hasn't already been kicked before by the PT... but I'm actually getting vaguely excited. Dammit.
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#104084
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Info: Lawrence Lessig (Copyright Lawyer) on the "Phantom Edit"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104084/action/topic#104084
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Originally posted by: none
Ops there's one other caviot we've missed. From the 4th paragraph:
"Just don't create a "fixed copy of the altered version.""
We're still screwed...
But the theory of the edits could be translated by some program, but then we're trampling on Clearplays patents...


Then again, the format of DVD is by no means *fixed*, as some day they are prone to degenerate. So therefore.... given time.... the burden of proof should be on the shoulders of the copyright holder to prove what a truly *fixed* copy is....

(if it wasn't broken in the first place it wouldn't need to be fixed)
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#104082
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WTF George and Steven?!?! More Indy 4 stuff...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/104082/action/topic#104082
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Originally posted by: Warbler
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
“Steven, it’s George, I’ve got Harrison on the other line. I’ve come up with a new plot outline for you to think about. OK, here goes - the date is 1959. Indy is one day from retirement at the university when he is asked to go on one last adventure by the us government. They were going to ask a younger more able bodied marine type but they thought 'what the hell'. The now adult 'short-round' joins the aging dr jones on his adventure, which this time involves 'commies' that have kidnapped the now geriatric Henry Jones because of his knowledge of space travel, and much 'I'm getting too old for this' dialogue ensues. At the end of the movie, Indy hands over his whip and hat to short round and says 'go-get-em, kid' and the new Indy mark 2 rides into the sunset, ready to take on the 1960s in a new computer effects laden trilogy (starring an asian, and therfore more politically correct hero). If we play our cards right we can have a new Indy every few years and sooner or later get up to the present day and beyond until we finally get to the story I've always wanted to tell, the way I really envisioned it - Indiana Jones:2099"


Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!


"In a world gone mad.... only ONE man can save the day.... Jet Li IS ... Short Round!
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#103879
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Got the LD rips - Now How Do I Make Them Work?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/103879/action/topic#103879
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Originally posted by: electrictroy
Thanks, I have PowerDVD and will try that. Now, know anything about converting OGM to a watchable format for DivX Player? ;-) Sometimes, I wonder if it's easier to just BUY the videos?

I guess it depends on the video. If the files are from an availble for sale DVD, then I would (morally) have to say 'Yeah, just go buy the DVD'. But what we're mainly about here is stuff that ISN'T available for sale. As for OGMs, I'm kinda new to those (ie don't have any files, haven't played around with them) so I can't really tell you on that one. But when you have time run a search at that website I sent you and they should have something. Is your DivX player a stand-alone one or software?

I figure I have two choices:
- Waste an hour trying to compile these files into viewable format.
- Waste an hour at my job, earn $40, and then walk into the store and buy the vids legally.
Either way, I've "spent time" of one hour. Same Difference.


sounds like a time-waster either way... lol!

THANKS AGAIN GREENCAPT!

Troy Heagy :-)


No prob.
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#103854
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<strong>The Cowclops Transfers (a.k.a. the PCM audio DVD's, Row47 set) Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/103854/action/topic#103854
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Originally posted by: s7en
Thanks for clearing that up Rik. I've been acquiring quite a few making of discs myself. My curiosity is now satisfied


Yeah I was getting a little confused over the whole 'making of' discs as well. (scratches head)

There's just SO MUCH good stuff....

Also, I've gone through an addict-like burst of trying to accumulate as many of the OT sets as possible over the last two months- and STILL haven't sat through any of them completely to pick my favorite! Maybe next weekend, when the wife is out of town. Sad that- some guys would beg for their wives to go away for the weekend so they could fool around with someone else... me, I'll probably stay at home and have a Star Wars marathon in anticipation of the new film.... LOL!
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#103853
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Got the LD rips - Now How Do I Make Them Work?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/103853/action/topic#103853
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Originally posted by: electrictroy
I have no idea what to do with these *.bup, *.nfo, and other confusing files.

Why can't these LD rippers just use normal MPEG4/avi files that I can view with DivX Player?



(extremely frustrated at having wasted several days downloading files he can't make work)
Troy Heagy
Electrical Engineer


There's a very quick learning curve to all those files, electrictroy, so don't worry and don't get frustrated. Thing is, most preservationists here want as nice and clean of a DVD copy of the LD as possible and I'd wager most don't just want to watch on their computers. For that matter, if you DO prefer to watch on your computer, just get a DVD viewing program like PowerDVD, make sure all those files are in a folder called 'VIDEO_TS' and use PowerDVD (or whatever) to open them- they'll play just like a DVD in a stand-alone player.

That said, there's a great informative website that will tell you everything you want to know about all those file types and what to do with them. It is VideoHelp.Com and has a wealth of great stuff!

As to the files you already mentioned, the .BUP files are simply back-up files of the .VOB files (the actual video file the DVD player reads) and an .NFO is just a text document (open with Notepad or the equivalent) telling you details about the rip and source. A DVD folder generally contains .VOB, .IFO and .BUP files. The .IFO files are navigational command lists for the DVD player.

Hope this helped and please don't get frustrated!

And welcome!!!!