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The Empire Strikes Back is a "junk movie"
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adywan said:

Father Skywalker said:

George Lucas is like Santa Claus, the wise old white-haired bearded man who gives everybody (millions of people actually) gifts and presents (kickass SW movies)!!!!!

You mean except for those loyal fans that supported him since 1977 and gave him his Empire through ticket and merchandising sales, only to get shafted with the suppression of the Original versions that they love.

Put this on the OT.com homepage.

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The Empire Strikes Back is a "junk movie"
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Father Skywalker said:

zombie84 said:

Maybe. But since the entire debate--whether it's good, bad, or a non-issue--is never brought up, discussed, or even alluded to, it really just feels like the script failed to pick up on a serious thematic issue inherant in the film. In other words, it's a bit of a plot hole. To me, it doesn't seem deliberate design. It seems the same reason that the entire central mystery of Attack of the Clones--who ordered the clones, and who Sifo-dyas was and what he was doing--was simply ignored in the sequel. Which is to say....who the fuck knows. It was simply dropped.

...what the hell!? How can you have a sequel that does that?? But Lucas went that far. I'm not sure what he was thinking. But basically the effect is that he pretended Episode II didn't exist. Which is awesome, because that movie is terrible. But it's just one more nail in the coffin for why the prequel trilogy was an epic failure of sometimes embarassing preportions. Can you think of another trilogy that simply jettisons the entire plot 2/3 of the way through? Well, maybe that is why Revenge of the SIth is so watchable, so I don't regret it, but it's certainly an indictment against George Lucas from his own self.

Episode 2 basically copied and recycled and shoehorned all of the ideas from Episode 5 into the same storyline; no originality and coming up with new ideas here Georgey Lucas, just borrowing and taking from the older storyline ideas.......

For example.....

Cut off the hand of somebody during a 3-way fight involving Darth Sidious, and after that, was given the choice to either join or to reject the Darkside of the Force, during the 3rd episode of the trilogy......

Had their right hand cut off during a duel with a Sith Lord, during the second episode of the trilogy, only to be replaced with a cybernetic right hand replacement.......

In the third episode of the trilogy, in a 3-way fight between darth sidious, his other sith apprentice, and the young jedi knight, the young jedi cuts off the sith lord's hand in revenge and is tempted by palpatine to kill the sith lord that they have at their mercy.......

Is that Anakin or Luke Skywalker???? Both of em!!!!!! Stop borrowing old ideas, george, it's getting old by now.....

 

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