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#164643
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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I watched the Official release last night, then watched DE's edit. I cannot give you enough praise for doing this! The edit work is top notch! Yours should have been the official release. Of particular note are the following amazing edits which are my favorites and are perfectly done:

0. The Star Wars logo recedes too quickly. I interpolated new frames to slow it down to the right speed.
1. Fixed the jump cut after R2 and 3PO cross the corridor (watch the Stormtroopers in the background)
6. When 3PO and R2 are in the pod, the Star Destroyer recedes into the background. Unfortunately so do the stars, which is not what they should see. I've replaced the stars with non-receeding ones.
7. Vader takes a very pantomimish stance when Leia is brought to him - I've cut that out.
8. Moved the restraining bolt on R2, which appears in the wrong position in one shot.
9. When 3PO stands up the Sandcrawler, his eyes blink off for half second. I've fixed that.
10. I've cut the SE Tatooine stormtroopers, so this part is now almost identical to the OT (but the CGI Dewback is still there in the background, and I've shortened the preceeding shot of the Sandcrawler).
16. I've morphed Luke and Ben, and adjusted 3PO, so the jump cut is not so obvious when he turns on the lightsabre (the lightsabre also visibly extends).
17. Mos Eisley. I've painted out (but kept the shot) the humanoid droid smacking down the floating droid as the speeder enters Mos Eisley. The shot with the Ronto throwing it's Jawa riders is cut.
19. I've fixed a few frames as the speeder approaches the Cantina, where the shadows were not correctly painted.
20. In the same scene, a ship in the background flys in front of two moisture vaporators, which makes it appear to be tiny. I've moved it behind the vaporators.
21. I've painted out Batboy's transparent eyes.
22. Greedo's subtitles are now "burnt" into the video, with the same font as the SE Laserdiscs.
24. The single frame of Greedo before he fries is no longer a poor dummy.
25. Jabba - you're cut! I've done my best to reconstruct the OT here, right down to matching the number of frames in the transition.
26. The sync on Ben's line ("If the ship's as fast as he's boasting...") was out by 600ms (15 frames).
27. I've painted in the radar dish on the Falcon as it sits in docking bay 94 (just before "What a piece of junk!").
29. Before Leia is brought to Tarkin, there's a shot of him and another officer standing in front of a poorly projected picture of Alderaan. I've replaced the projection with a shot of Alderaan from later, replicating the original shading and size.
31. The stars behind the Death Star jump (as if a few frames were cut) as the Death Star fires - I fixed that.
32. Just after Alderaan bites the big one, Luke's lightsabre is green! Now it's blue - and I've shortened it because at one point the tip remains completely out of frame, causing it to appear far too long.
35. Vader no longer gestures after finishing his sentence (the shot remains the same length).
38. I've cut the DVD-addition line "There's no-one here." as the Stormtroopers leave the Falcon. The alternative was making the second Stormtrooper reply, "Duh!"
40. While our heroes wait for an elevator, a guy goes by first in a light shirt, then in a dark shirt. Now he just wears a dark shirt.
43. After Luke says "It just let go of me and disappeared!" the scene cuts to Leia, at which point all ambient noise suddenly diminishes. I pasted in some sounds to make the transition smoother.
44. The sound of the Stormtrooper hitting his head is so loud it sounds like a comedy sound effect. Alternative sounds didn't work out, so now he just doesn't bump his head - he hangs back until the lead trooper has entered the room.
46. Two overhead shots of Ben at the Tractor Beam Station needed the colours of the matte painting corrected. The DVD was better than the LD, but there was still room for improvement.
47. Before the cut-away to Leia ("No wait, they'll here!"), Han's gun emits a puff of smoke even though he hasn't fired it yet (painted out).
53. When Luke sees the duel from a distance, Ben's lightsabre is already raised and neither sabre is painted. The sabres are now painted in the right positions.
54. When Ben gets cut down, I've added in his face so it looks less like an empty cloak.
55. I've painted Vader's sabre red in a few uncoloured scenes (when he's in the background behind the Stormtroopers).
56. When Han asks "You in kid?" Luke now replies "Yeah," before Han's "Okay, stay sharp."
57. The Falcon shudders as the TIEs pass, but the shake effect on Han and Luke is entirely horizontal and shows no motion blur. I've added rotational and translational movement, and some motion blur.
59. There's a shot of R2 and 3PO in the curved seat on the Falcon. Look closely behind Artoo - for a few frames at the end, a head (probably Luke) appears. I've painted it out.
65. I've fixed the Death Star schematic that appears on the monitor and in the briefing. The weapon bowl should appear above the equatorial trench, not on it.
66. The clock on the Death Star screen during the attack is now consistent with the announcements. One shot required colour correction to match all other shots of the clock.
69. Something I think everyone will be pleased about is that I've been able to restore the missing fanfare, after Red Leader says "I'm gonna cut across the axis and try and draw their fire." I used the Special Edition soundtrack CD as my source. The music was still there in the rear channels, incidentally - it definitely wasn't a creative decision!
72. I've added an X-Wing to the shot where Luke looks down to see Red Leader bite the dust. It always bugged me that there was an explosion with no visible cause.
79. As our heroes make their way to get their awards, one rebel in the background raises his hand just before a cut - I've painted it out. Maybe he needed the bathroom.
80. Leia's [hands] now don't start moving up a few frames before the credits begin.
81. Denis Lawson's name is now spelt correctly in the end credits.

Here are my comments on some of the other edits:

13. I've painted the reappearing red R2 unit green to fix the continuity error.
*I really wish R5 wasn't there at all.

14. There's a bad cut in the music (it completely drops out for a fraction of a second) when we see the Sandpeople mounting their Bantha - fixed.
*still noticable, but better

15. I've edited out the wall hanging/cloak thing behind Luke to fix a continuity error (but in a weird way - more on that later).
*That is weird. It seems to disappear when luke stands up, as if he knocked it down, but then it re-appears in a latter shot.

23. Han fires first!
*wish this was more like the OOT, but it works well just the way it is, and is a huge improvement.

30. Moff Tarkin's line "...then name the system!" has been graphic equalized to mask the poor audio quality.
*Could still be better. I only say this because before the DVDs came out someone posted this as a MP3 clip that I thought I would try to EQ. I think I got it perfect, but yours is still not quite as good as it could be.

42. The line "I had it all under control until you led us down here!" was of particularly bad quality, so I've replaced it with the same line from the SE LD.
*Now Chewie's bark during this line sounds funny

51. On the DVD, they claimed to have fixed Ben's unpainted lightsabre (just before we cut to our heroes getting to the docking bay). All they did was add the glow, but they forgot to paint the white core. Another shot around this one had a similar problem for a frame or two.
*Now if only the saber wasn't purple in some shots!

Again, amazing work! I only point out the few criticisms I have in the hopes that they will one day be even better, and to give honest feedback on your edit.

-G
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#164251
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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Just watched DE's ANH on Saturday. It's really awesome.

There are only a few things that remain that I wish Darth Editous would have fixed. And I like the way he fixed everything he did fix except for one.

When cutting out the Jabba scene, the Imperial informant slows down before it cuts to Luke and Ben. It's just a little jarring.

Everything else is an improvement. Even Luke saying "yeah" after han says "you in kid?" is done really well.

Anyway, I can pay forward the NTSC version to 3 people. PM me.

-G
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#71005
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Using the '04 SE DVD version to restore the Original (with lots of info)
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I've been giving the de-specialized 2004 DVD project some major brain bandwidth over the last few weeks. What if we all pooled our resources and took parts of the official DVDs that bugged us the most and fixed them seperately. Then, we could periodically "release" a DVD with people's contributions added in. In cases where people have duplicated efforts, we could vote on the best clip to include in the completed movie. This could be a continually morphing project, kinda like Lucasfilm treats them, but with a slant toward reversing what has been done over the years.

This would require a major commitment of time, money and resources by everyone that chooses to get involved, but the end result would be worth the effort.

Here are a few things off the top of my head that we would need on top of each of us having the ability to edit video.

1. webhosting for works in progress and completed clips so that everyone could view and vote.

2. someone willing and able to peice the clips back into a full movie.

3. someone willing to distribute the results. (burn DVDs or Torrent)

Thoughts?

-G

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#70857
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.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
"Maybe the film prints used for the transfers were heat/cold damaged or something."

Not damaged, just that the film itself tended to jump around during the transfer. This is actually not as unusual a scenario as it seems - it's just that not many other films come under such scrutiny.


It just seems to me to be quite a bit more jump than even my crappy e-bay purchased bootlegs. MeBeJedi (and other experts) - any chance you could take a look at the footage that Laserschwert has posted and let us know if that is the same amount of jump that you have seen?

-G
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#70686
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.: The Zion DVD Project :. (Released)
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I watched the Mpeg that Laserschwert posted, and I have to admit there is no ghosting and the detail looks great, but what is up with the video jumping around so much? The stormtroopers are bouncing back and forth a lot. Anyway, just wondering if it is on Zion's original, or a result of Laserschwert's filter or the mpeg encoder.

Judging by the screencaps, I think TR-47's are too bright as well.

Keep up the excellent work Zion! Your screencaps keep looking better.

-G