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Asaki said:

It's a little less colorful than I was expecting, but looks pretty awesome.

I think it would be possible to make things 'pop' a bit more with some adjustments - I had tried a quick and nasty boost https://vimeo.com/72009834 but I would be worried of doing too much in case of ruining the nice texture the original has

WOW I LOVE THIS GORGEOUS FILM TEXTURE! its so easy on the eye - beautiful.

I've never seen some of these shots at the end, in any other documentary. It looks like its some sort of source tape of copied cut scenes+film/video? shot on location, that an editor would fast foward through to use in making a documentary. To my eyes the bts looks better than 8mm?

Edit: On a tangent I noticed this the other day in empire of dreams - what looks like a set up for a shot of R2 hiding behind some rocks which makes it look like the Blu Ray 'fix' might have been the original shot they were after in the first place (apologies if you already saw this) : http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=k33ggn&s=5

Here's an example of a cropped shot that might work as a cross cut after the very first mos eisley establishing shot. however the jump in quality might be too jarring

https://vimeo.com/68953863

https://vimeo.com/68956888

Here is the loop idea (pretty crude) but maybe it could work for as a quick jump cut? https://vimeo.com/68955342

Anyway these are just ideas of maybe some things to try, someone else maybe able to come up with smoother edits which would fit better

*Edit: I uploaded some more edit pieces but I am using a Japanese subtitle source and I think they are too low rez to match now

https://vimeo.com/68961125

https://vimeo.com/68958681

https://vimeo.com/68961611

Great. I thought of a couple of other things, maybe using cropped or slowed down/looped footage from the documentary.

I suspect you don't want to go back over the first 70mins but I had an idea to insert a shot from a making of documentary into the mos eisley scene, its probably too harsh a shot to look nice but it would be the zoom shot onto the jawas at around the 12.42 mark in this doc., inserted in place of the still shot of the exterior cantina, right after the cross cut to luke after ben's dialogue "..weak minded".

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcdkap_the-making-of-star-wars-1-4-1977_shortfilms

Ryan McAvoy said:

 I'm dreading trawling through days of WW2 and pre77 Sci-Fi films to find the material I need for Yavin. Suggestions are always welcome.

 

I started this edit with title cards everywhere as you suggest but when it started to get good I realised that if I picked the right footage I didn't need them. The image told the story just fine. I think I tried that sandcrawler shot at one point but elected to go with a McQuarrie painting instead.

 Well if you didn't want to the WW2 footage for the Yavin battle you could maybe cut in stills of the story board in time with the soundtrack (i think there is a complete set in the back of the hardcover of 'making of star wars' rinzler book but i dont have the hardcover). Of course it would be much much less exciting than having moving footage, and make it more like a test animation, but it would at least be in keeping with the films production history. Or maybe this would be an idea for a subsequent project, where you could perhaps include some of the botched takes from the empire of dreams documentary and basically make a alternate reality rough cut of the film without worrying about the story flow as much, as just making an original mash-up.

I just downloaded the first 70min and this is a really cool project! I love getting to the blu-ray deleted scenes reintergrated into the film and the b&w workprint aesthetic recreated. Are you still working on this? I would have opted to use some of the pics from the lost cut article http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/swcs/episode4/lostcut.html

and inserted them 'with missing scene' type title cards for a couple of seconds, e.g.

Also on the page i linked theres also a clip of an additional few seconds of low rez mos eisley footage from the holiday special, i wonder you considered plugging this in somehow (but sourcing a higer rez source):

This is a really nice adjustment. It's a tricky business trying to undo the heavy pinks and get natural flesh balance back in there and get it perfect with one setting with all the ups and downs in balances in the film. Looks like you've nailed down a really nice setting here. You might consider releasing this, from my experience with the version of Gout I just made, its hard to demonstrate the radical effect each specific tweaking has on the feel of the whole film from stills alone.   

Yes! Bring it on!

Can you post your result for this frame or near abouts?

I looked again at the throne room frame and its pretty much spot on to the legacy!!!

NeverarGreat said:

I've probably crushed some blacks again, and I'm still using the old source for lack of a better method and the aforementioned technical difficulties, but I'm more interested in getting the colors right at this point rather than the black and white points. Though if anything stands out, feel free to point it out.

Great work! For me this is definitely your best result for for this frame, you've managed to get it much closer to the legacy frame. To my eyes in the skintones on the original the faces look a little pink and pasty and you've managed to make them a touch more burnt sienna(or whatever that colour is) which gives them more of a full bodied likelike feel. To me earlier in the thread your second version was too yellow and the first looked too thin in colour. I'd love to see some more frames especially of faces.

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CatBus said:

If you had the OCN, why on earth would you bother to use the tech IB?

 

My understanding was that the original camera negative for star wars is damaged through over use of making prints/the poor stocks that went into it/time decay, so any prints struck from it now reflect that damage. Whereas the tech IB was struck early in the lifespan of the OCN and has a special dye which protects it more from fade (and possibly why it makes the print thicker and harder to transfer or something?). I also read the colour separations for star wars are also missing sections or something. Therefore in this case the tech IB would be the best record of the original look of the film. George Lucas showed his team his personal ib tech print to the team making the special edition and said this is what it should look like!

mikeaz123 said:

Reddit stalkers? Just don't comb through my history and claim I'm the third boston bomber ok?  :)  I put it on reddit under my throwaway but I'm the same guy.  

 Fans of the original trilogy are afraid to get their hopes up these days!