Still unfinished (mostly stuff to do with skin tones and still trying to retain fine detail), but does THIS look more OT to you?
Amazing work in the preview clip, suddenly I don't mind watching the bluray. I'd love to see clips from others too.
In terms of the settings, this seemed just about right level of green.
I apologize for the massive compression artifacts in both screenshots, not representative of final product.
First is screenshot from the ROTS technicolor duel clip, compared with my new version still WIP.
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/57531
Really happy with this, finally getting rid of that ugly teal and getting even closer to an OT look. Plus, I think this looks even less digital for sure.
ElectricTriangle said:
VLC and MPC-HC (with addons) can both add grain in real-time. This goes a long way toward making DNR'ed stuff look slightly more watchable. Hides macro-blocking too.
I know, though those to me look more like really fine video noise than 35mm film grain.
Gogogadget said:
I mean in the source material for your edits, every single shot has horrible haloing, which since this is Lucasfilm i'm gonna take a rough guess and assume they fucked it up.
Either way, your work is great and actually makes this look more like a real film.
Interesting you say that, maybe because they were filmed in 1080p, they sharpened it to try to remove the digital softness.
Gogogadget said:
What's with all the edge enhancement they're using, I thought these movies we're already shot on 1080p cameras?
Some earlier screenshots involved doing all my work at 4K, which ended up making the 1080p outputs a tad too sharp.
I have since then worked a proper 1080p workflow, as I am using real film scans to add the grain. So you won't see weird over sharpness or over chromatic-aberrated footage. All examples are not final of course.
Ryan McAvoy said:
emanswfan said:
Unfinished ATOC screenshot (removing the ugly greenish purple tint): http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/56163
I've been impressed by the other screenshots but bloody hell this one ^ is amazing. The colours are great but the definition of the shadows is just beautiful... even Jar-Jar looks like a real thing!!!!
Thanks had taken me forever to figure out how to fix the colors in that shot without making it look unnatural or ruining the skintones. Hopefully I might use simmilar techniques to figure out if I can naturally remove the warmth from the ROTS opening battle.
Buster D said:
Can the techniques you use for adding grain be used in real-time when viewing a Blu-ray on a PC? There's a lot of discs out there that would probably be more pleasing to watch if their damn DNR was mostly hidden.
Realtime probably not, but I have created some universal LUT's that grade digital to like film assuming you do all your desired color correction beforehand. So if you don't desire any film grain, which I really think is an important component, you can literally take a movie and plop it into Premiere and just apply one of my LUT's, which I've considered releasing a set possibly this year, and render. It wouldn't be realtime, but it wouldn't require any major work other than proper ripping, high quality rendering, and burning, and assuming you have some sort of program that supports applying LUT's to clips (some have plugins you can get for free.)
choklitjeezis said:
emanswfan said:
Let Naboo shine with technicolor color schemes and retro 35mm.
Wow, wow wow. Emanswfan, I have zero love for the prequels but your work is nobly impressing the bejeezus out of me.
Question on making things "filmic": My eye and general knowledge of film effects are not the best but isn't part of the problem in resolving the fakeness in these films that the CG animated elements will always appear distinct from the other elements due to the lack of motion blur as these elements are not actually filmed? Almost akin to a frames per second issue but not necessarily even tied to more frames per second but simply that the CG is always crystal clear at any given moment.
If that supposed understanding is even ballpark accurate are there plans to better integrate these overly disparate elements?
No matter, the stills and the Youtube clips (the ones that haven't been removed at least) are proof enough that mere color correction, grain, etc. go a long way in improving the viewing experience.
Thanks for the nice comments.
When it comes to CGI, that is actually true a lot of the time, though I'm not really sure if it applies here. I might look into as I know how to reconstruct motion blur to proper levels, which involves removing most of the natural motion blur and then adding motion blur back in for the actors and CGI motion to match. Did that trick on my personal edits of the Once Upon A Time TV series, helps that shows horrifically b ed CGI infinitely.
So I'll look into that to see if that helps or not. Maybe my next clip could be a new version of the opening of III, just the long CG shot.
But, wait are some of my youtube clips actually down?
EDIT: Yes three are down, I still have the clips on my pc. I'm going to delete those three videos soon to prevent my YT account, from being locked and banned, since acknowleding would result in three strikes and out. It's odd since they had been up for a long time and never detected and were unlisted.
Darth Lucas said:
.....Is this still happening?
Still very much is, I've just gotten extremely busy in my personal life, mostly my job really. I'm looking to start back on this as soon as I can, which I'm not exactly sure when will be, not too much longer though hopefully. I just don't want to give out some random date by which I'll be back on this.
But when I do, I don't think there's that much work to do in terms of figuring out the logisitics, though I still feel my versions don't look close enough to the OT for my taste, though I feel I've gotten at least good enough to make it not digital looking anymore. I'm sure Ady's PT color correction for PT:Revisited will still look far better than mine.
If I have time, I might (and that's a big might) post some new screenshots soon.
EDIT: Old screenshots I never posted.
Deleted Scenes Upscale TEST (NO CC): http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/45634
Unfinished ATOC screenshot (removing the ugly greenish purple tint): http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/56163
doubleofive said:
I love this idea. Going to the theater and not knowing if you were going to get the theatrical, special edition, Revisited, or Ridiculous.
Theatrical- Awesomeness
Special Edition- Complains the whole time
Revisited- Far Far Beyond Awesomeness
Ridiculous- Best comedy parody there ever was
No way to not spend a good night, perfect!
Merry Christmas Ady and the rest of the Revisited team! Thanks for all you and the others do to make these amazing edits come to life!
Hope it really does come out in March (not to rush you), since that is when my birthday is, and ESB:R would be the best birthday present I could ever think of.
doubleofive said:
Peter Jackson on the two-film edit:
The split was going to occur where Bard [Luke Evans] appears on the river bank as a silhouetted figure with a bow. So the whole barrel sequence was going to be the climax.
Just in case someone wants to re-create the alternate universe two-movie edit.
I find that a really weird place to split the story, it's way unbalanced in terms of story to cover between two films. If that's the case, I'd prefer the trilogy just for the more even pace, even if bloated.
But yeah, Smaug is pretty freaking awesome. Best CGI since Gollumn.
Yes, I'd love to have the workprint also, if it is okay.
Ryan McAvoy said:
Not sure what a 'virtual machine' is, an emulator?
Kind of, it essentially emulates exactly like a real computer and you can run OS's within them with no risk of doing anything to your main pc. It's useful though especially if you need to run older, imcompatible programs.
I would imagine you would just be able to find the files on the disc and copy them via some decrypting software, since it probably has copyright on it.
Ryan McAvoy said:
Found 'Behind The Magic' while rooting round in a few old storage boxes :-)
Wonder if it has any useable shots?
^ Scratch that, the b*stard won't install on Win7
Couldn't you run it on Windows 98 or XP in a virtual machine, and transfer it over to your normal machine?
Fixed.
A New Hope was released at just the right time.
Star Wars was released at just the right time.
Those screencaps are beautiful, even though they aren't finished they look so much more filmic, and in a way more modern than what the bluray transfers looks like. These releases are right up there in importance with the Revisited Saga for me.
Could there be a visual comparison made for the new clip, please?
NeverarGreat said:
Alright, I've been looking for some free options for reducing the center channel of the AC3 file some more, and came across KnOckOut, a plugin for Audacity. Placing the center channel above the right channel, I then pulled the center channel to read as a left channel, and pulled the right channel to read as the right channel. This is so Knockout thinks that it is a simple stereo file. Playing with the settings allowed for a really impressive result. Leia's voice is hardly garbled at all, and except for a single errant note, I was hard pressed to hear any music. This is more than sufficient for incorporating into a trailer, methinks.
The only problem was that this didn't work. It only worked when I clicked the "preview" option, which played the first five seconds perfectly. Trying to apply the effect to the whole track did absolutely nothing except amplify the track. So I did what any sane person would do and recorded the five second previews with Windows Audio Recorder and stitched them together in Audacity. Here are the settings, if anyone else is interested in working from the AC3 audio:
Knockout settings for Leia Reconstituted Audio:
Vocals plus music on top, left panned. Right music channel on bottom, right panned.
Select both tracks, start Knockout. Extract Centre off, R input gain 13 dB, Output gain 8 dB, all other settings off.
preview section, record with windows audio recorder.
The moral of this story: It is quite possible to isolate the Leia hologram speech, with some effort.
Makes sense to me completely, example clip?
EDIT: Just saw your post above.
Just read this 5 page interview on IGN with Dave Filoni, really good stuff about the Clone Wars and Rebels TV series.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/14/dave-filoni-looks-back-on-star-wars-the-clone-wars-and-ahead-towards-star-wars-rebels
Tobar said:
The live action Star Wars show was to be about the underworld in Star Wars. Think the Sopranos in space and you're just about there.
They wrote a bunch of scripts and then realized it was too cost prohibitive to do for television and so they put it on the backburner and were going to wait it out for the costs to go down.
1313 was supposed to be a sort of tie-in to the show and kept going forward into production long after they shelved the show. Then of course that eventually got cancelled.
Rebels is an all new show with no ties to any of the previous efforts.
Jaitea said:
At least Tim Curry's accent sounds English, the actor who's doing Tarkin's voice sounds a bit Australian
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I think Stephen Stanton did an excellent job as Tarkin.
Oh, yeh I know plenty about the live-action TV series they have planned, and I think it will still show up sometime, probably on ABC since this is Disney.
Just hopefully if that series comes out, it won't be the disappointment Agents Of Shield was.
marioxb said:
So... uh, when was it decided that this series was NOT going to be live-action? I must have been under a rock. That sucks. I'd rather this be live action, dammit!
Is this a joke?
Not sure how you could've thought that, since it is Lucas Animation!
New episodes confirmed to premiere in Early 2014!
New pictures and info on the series:
TV's Frink said:
emanswfan said:
Nice thing though is that they have a Dolby 5.1 Spanish and a Dolby 5.1 English, which wasn't the case with the previous Bluray set. My bets are on these being the same exact mixes minus the language meaning the true vocal removal method may very well be possible.
Please to be elaborating.
It's some weird theory TMBTM, and I have been trying to figure out in another thread, where if everything is exactly the same except the voices can you use that, to perfectly separate the voices from Music/SFX. Neither of us, have figured it out how to get it to work properly, but for certain identical mixes for the score/SFX is necessary. So far TMBTM did get the vocals to be twice as loud as before, so at the moment the use of noise removal processing is made much more possible.
The DVD's are the Bluray versions for all the films, in case anyone's still wondering. Just a simple repackage, but with new DVD's.
Nice thing though is that they have a Dolby 5.1 Spanish and a Dolby 5.1 English, which wasn't the case with the previous Bluray set. My bets are on these being the same exact mixes minus the language meaning the true vocal removal method may very well be possible.