dvdmike

How many of these found discs are ready to go as DTS-MA?

Less detail 

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23400

DoomBot said:

Found this ..

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/21726

The open HDTV looks worse, we made the right choice 

The one I found had a password, still looking

Doctor M said:

Funny thing is, I predict any BD release to be open matte since Cameron has a tradition of reformatting to fill TV screens.

HDBits has several versions.  I see they have a 1080i DVB/mpg2 version from some newsgroup (not many details, not even AR) @ 15gb and a 1080p x264 version (possibly DTheater sourced with a downmixed audio track).

They also have a standalone rip of the original full bitrate DTS/DTheater audio track.

The rest are 720p (including an open matte one).  Funny thing is I don't see the version that I originally got there which was the open matte 720p with the DTheater 1510kbps track.

The point being, I'm not sure there is a 1080i/p version that's open matte.

If true lies was being released in 3d I would agree it would not be oar but all Cameron 2d releases have been in oar 

dark_jedi said:

dvdmike said:

Will grab the non OAR and compare some effects shots and some standard shots over the next few days if no one has both

So where are you grabbing it from? maybe this will be our only chance to see this ourselves as well.

Thanks dvdmike

I found it once before and deleted as it was not OAR, one of the UK channels either MGM HD/TCM HD or Channel 4 HD are showing the non OAR also.

I think I have found it I will keep you updated 

Jetrell Fo said:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=68029

I found this interesting.  Talks about DTS 6.1 Discrete (ES) and such.  I don't know if it would be applicable to some of the stuff we might have in ES.

:)

Yes please!

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

Thanks for keeping an eye out. The first MK is the one I really want to see happen, since the DTS LD version blows the Blu Ray track out of the water.

Might be worth keeping an eye out for The Shadow in case Universal screws up the forthcoming Blu Ray. Although there was an early full frame DVD with a full bitrate DTS track?

Do all of the CD's generally have the same sort of labels? I've only seen the Star Wars SE discs in person, and a couple of the others on Ebay.

I already HAVE The Shadow ....... ;)  And yes, all the theater DTS discs have the same look .....  :)

Will grab the non OAR and compare some effects shots and some standard shots over the next few days if no one has both

Matt_Stevens said:

I still have my DVHS recorded Cable broadcast. 1.78:1 open matted and more detail vs the 2.35:1 DTheater DVHS release, which was DNR'd/filtered. Moron studios.

Unfortunately, the 5.1 on the DTheater is far better than the 5.1 on the Cable broadcast. 

I'm just hoping for a Blu-Ray thatgets it right. But it'll probably be turned teal.

I would say no to DNR, but it is not well encoded and definitely filtered 

Doctor M said:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/columns/the-rumor-mill/true-lies-abyss-2014-x-files-twin-peaks

Just sayin'...

That is the third time over 7 years they have posted that fud 

Moth3r said:

You_Too said:

Just wanted to point some things out so everybody is prepared that this won't be a perfect release either, though we'll do our best of course!

First of all, this one just like T2 has some severely crushed whites. They're lost and no way to bring them back.

Sorry if this is obvious, but have you checked the histogram to see if there are any pixels with luma in the 236-255 range? On occasion, there is detail in this range that gets clipped for display, but can be recovered by reducing the white level.

Example: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Curious-about-Certain-Aspects-of-My-Primitive-LD-to-DVD-transfers/post/523672/#TopicPost523672

Wow, cool tip 

Contrast is the next step, I am close to happy with the colour and now comes the contrast balance.

I tried a little DNR sample and it looked like crap, so video noise it is!

That is a massive crop

My problem now is to DNR the video noise out and regrain the image?

I hate doing anything drastic but the image can look like a hot mess in places 

First run:

VS

Jetrell Fo said:

Well, I have added a few "founds" to the list .....

Little Mermaid

Apollo 13

The World Is Not Enough

Clear And Present Danger

The Matrix Trilogy

Batman & Robin

Batman (Nolan) Trilogy

It's been an exciting weekend ..... here's to the hunt ...... :)

 My god! I need to hear that Clear and Present Danger disc!!

Wonder if apollo 13 has the height info that can be extracted from the bd track.

World is not enough is only the second DTS ES disc we have after TPM right?

bigrob said:

you guys aware of the R6 DVD from China with DTS 6.1 audio?

 

not sure if that would help?

It was mixed for 5.1 and it was and still is a showpiece, a single rear would destroy most of the panning of the soundstage 

We are not sure yet

woodsyallen said:

rockin said:

The new remastered Se7en in blu-ray looks closer to the Criterion LD and DVD. The first blu-ray edition had framing problems and the colours weren't quite right either from memory.

Ah yes, I forgot about that terrible Alliance Bluray release. I remember reading all about the new line DVD and how it was sourced from one of the special prints. As someone who never saw the film in the theatre though I don't really know what to expect, but it always looked stellar to me. 

I must admit, it's pretty shocking the number of botched bluray releases. Considering the format seems to be designed more for film purists than your average consumer you'd think more time and care would be put into the releases. I remember reading about the horrific mastering of Gladiator the first go around that was so bad the studio had to recall all the discs. And of course the infamous Lord of the Rings mess up that people are trying to rectify (also surprised they haven't gone back to recall those).

Of course, there's also no accounting for taste as in the case of French Connection. Friedkin went back and RUINED the film with his terrible colour timing. But again, after enough complaints (including those from the DP himself) they went back and fixed it and released a new BD (albeit with little to no fanfare).

Another one that got a very odd re-time is Michael Jackson's Moonwalker. The bluray (which was only released in european markets but is region free and can be ordered to North America) its timed to be VERY cold. The detail level is very high, and its especially nice to see some of the old videos (namely Thriller) in HD since they have yet to get proper remasters, but the blue colour cast is distracting.

Neither DVD was correct the dvd was not from a SR print, it was recolored into a green mess and that was the same master AA used on their BD.

THe New BD gets damn close but is not 100% faithful 

woodsyallen said:

Surprised no one has mentioned the atrocity that was The French Connection when first released to BD. Thankfully that was rectified on a later edition.

Did Fincher supervise the colour timing of Seven/Fight Club for BD? I know the Seven DVD was carefully re-timed but I thought it was under Fincher's supervision (after all he is quite the notorious perfectionist).

Finally, The Godfather series was re-timed for the Coppola restoration. But apparently none of us saw how it was supposed to look, at least on home video since every previous home video release was mastered from terrible prints.

Fincher supervised them, but they are digital recreations of the chemical effect, and while they are the best the films have looked at home they are not 100% accurate.

Se7en actually looked closer on the Criterion LD as they used a silver retention print for the scan, but obviously the colour space and resolution are way off.

Yeah where is that already? I can retire my 1080i HDTV version 

turkishproverb said:

I'm still waiting to see shots with blown out clouds to see if they're back now.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/22098

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/22087