Part of me is teasing. But he has in the past been upset by people being inspired by his work and not giving him what he felt to be the proper amount of credit.
I’ll just leave this here…
LINK REMOVED
Unfortunately we’re not allowed to post mockups by Angel or he’ll sue us or something. Nice to see he can do things in motion now.
Donation made. All the best Adywan, may the force be with you!
Thanks to him and ImageShack, the mockups are mostly gone, but the list is just private if I had the momentum to clean it up.
Now hosting all the images on the Wordpress, we’re back up.
What is the list inside this link? Just listing all suggestions made so far by everyone? Or just from yourself? I take it from the italics and strike through comments that it’s not an official list which I’m grateful for if it means none of the PT inspired changes make it in! I read the suggestion about replacing the advisors with Nemoidians and nearly puked! A lot of the other suggested changes are pretty solid and good but I can’t stand the thought of defiling an OT movie with PT aspects!! I already hate GL just for Hayden’s head on Shaw’s body…
.Val
This was a 5 year old compilation of suggestions/mockups from another thread.
Just got to say that some of the suggestions I’ve read in here such as Regularjoe and Bingowings above (as well as others many pages back now) verge on the fan edit territory if not outright “re-imagined” territory for some suggestions and I really hope Adywan sticks to his guns on making “what the SEs should have been”. That is to enhance what is already there, fix all the little niggles and continuity issues and overall elevate the original movie to something really special like he’s already done for ANH and TESB.
We’re all here because we loved the original movies, cutting out parts like Kenobi or Yoda’s death or adding in PT inspired changes will all contribute to actually ruining the movie for many people for various reasons instead of EVERYONE still being able to enjoy and love an even better version and proper SE of ROTJ, warts and all. If there are certain things you want to change for yourself then take the end result of ROTJ:R as a base and make an actual fan edit.
Anyway, I’m not here to tell Adywan what to do with ROTJ:R, that’s just my opinion on the matter and it just shocked me a bit when reading through and expecting to see people offering up details of things to fix and ways to improve the movie to an SE version but instead seeing many suggestions that would completely alter the story and movie itself.
.Val
Like I said recently “What The Special Editions Should Have Been” was a tagline I came up with. Adywan has said he’s planning for this to be an actual fan edit, not a fan fix.
IIRC, Adywan has already taken care of this.
I haven’t had time to go through every comment yet, but here are a few things that WON’T be happening in ROTJ:R -
Extra Boba Fett / Boba Surviving - Boba is going to die ( someone already guessed the one way i’m planning on killing him 😉 )
Unless I missed a guess, that narrows the guesses down to one.
And if that’s true, then that’s an ambitious change and I can’t wait to see it in action 😃I think you’ve already seen it. Like father, like son. : (
I hope I’m wrong.
I’m also hoping that this is this films version of “There won’t be any AT-STs in ESB:R” ; )I could be wrong, but a part of me hopes he’s referring to my idea! I feel such would be an interesting and worthy demise! Just very ambitious.
That would be MORE Boba Fett, silly!
I haven’t had time to go through every comment yet, but here are a few things that WON’T be happening in ROTJ:R -
Extra Boba Fett / Boba Surviving - Boba is going to die ( someone already guessed the one way i’m planning on killing him 😉 )
Unless I missed a guess, that narrows the guesses down to one.
And if that’s true, then that’s an ambitious change and I can’t wait to see it in action 😃I think you’ve already seen it. Like father, like son. : (
I hope I’m wrong.
I’m also hoping that this is this films version of “There won’t be any AT-STs in ESB:R” ; )
Fett will be super-duper dead.
I think we have to remember the spirit of these edits. It is my impression these are meant to be “What the Special Editions should have been”.
To be fair, I came up with that tagline, and Adywan has said RotJR has more structural changes than the last two edits. Just not as drastic as some seem to crave.
The canon firmly establishes that ROTJ takes place one year after the events of TESB.
How?
Every bit of official information around says that in the Star Wars universe, TESB takes place 3 ABY (3 years after the Battle of Yavin), and ROTJ takes place 4 ABY.
Where does it say that in the films? And what is ABY, in which scene they mention such acronym? To me it always seemed pretty vague how much time had passed between each movie.
“After Battle of Yavin” is the acronym, but you’re right, they don’t say it in the movie so it doesn’t matter for this edit.
You know what doesn’t matter? How long it was between movies. It’s not like there’s dialog that needs to be changed to “fix” this. How would one even establish how long it was unless one changed the opening crawl to be “It’s been a week since HAN SOLO was captured. LUKE SKYWALKER has thrown together a bad plan that doesn’t make any sense, hoping it will work so Han can lead a team to help destroy the second DEATH STAR, which is also a thing.”
Thank god Boba is gonna die. Also great to hear that Lando is gonna die.
Thank you so much Ady.
Also this thread is 3 years old.
Mark’s Down On Your Syntax said:
So Panaka is Typho’s uncle? Well, well, well.
Everyone is related!
I’m all for cutting the Force Choke.
In the wake of Force Awakens, we’re still arguing that a Jedi needs extensive training? 😉
This crawl is well-written, but it begs the question of him leaving then going back and being surprised that Yoda is dying if he had JUST seen him a week before.
Has anyone else been watching Ken Burns Vietnam? If so, what do you think of it?
I haven’t yet, but I’m interested. What do you think so far?
Luke can pick up things with the Force without having been trained in ESB. He has the ability to progress without Yoda. For all we know, Yoda was just trying to keep Luke safe and hidden on Dagobah and the training was never really going to end. Once he shows up, Yoda reveals the truth, that he can’t teach him anything else.
If Luke already waited 6-12 months to go back to Yoda, what difference would it make if he went back one week or the next? And doesn’t it make just as much sense for him to have resolved the mission he set himself on before returning to Yoda? “I totally failed to save my friends, and still haven’t saved them, so I’m sure you’re really disappointed in me. Oh, you’re dead.”
I’m pretty sure we get the idea that he has experience flying through canyons and blasting small(?!) targets from dialog without having to see him go through the same motions earlier in the film, especially since The Force is guiding his shot and proving his bravado.
I only have one suggestion for this, but I think it improves the film greatly:
Start the film with Luke on Dagobah
It just makes so much more senseDo you have friends?
How long would you let them hangin on a wall? Weeks? Month? If they survive that long at all.Luke does not need training to face Jabba. He wasn’t ready for Vader, but he was already very good. All he needs is to recover, and come up with a plan.
BTW ain’t all rebel plans seem completely stupid?
In Rogue One, they fly into an Imperial installation with zero planning, and as a result they die. Then a whole fleet follows with zero planning, and most of them die.
In TNH they attack the Death Star with 30 fighters (lol) trying to hit a small hole.
4 ships survive. One of them is not a rebel ship.
In ESB they fight AT-ATs with snowspeeders, that have no chance to even scratch them with their lasers. If not for Luke, Rogue Squadron dies, and every single Imperial soldier goes home without a scratch.
And in ROTJ the whole Alliance is walking into a trap.
Safe to say, they are really not that good at planning.Fair point. I guess my thinking is that it resolves the coincidence that Yoda does right when he shows up.
Blah blah blah, the Force. It’s the answer for everything. 😉
With Indy 5 hitting theaters in July of 2020, I wonder how Paramount will handle the rollout of the first four on UHD. The 2012 blu-ray transfers of Temple and Crusade used the 2008 masters (which showed up as the WoWoW broadcasts around that time), but those were only finished at 2k unless I’m mistaken. Maybe they’ll redo those scans to take advantage of the extra resolution. Raiders was redone yet again with a 6k scan and 4k finish. Crystal Skull was finished at 2k (at least according to imdb), which is too bad but it makes sense considering all the cgi, none of which would’ve been rendered above that resolution.
Most(?) movies are finished at 2k, so this isn’t unprecedented. The real benefit of UHD is the expanded color profile.
At this point, would mentioning the DS plans again be obsessive?
Well, it was only on the top of this page that you brought it up last, so I’d say YES.
Well he attempted to make it scarier with the added glow; just thought there might be an alternative way in doing so.
I liked your suggestion of the needle slowly extending out as the probe droid comes towards us…but having been lucky enough to get a preview pic a while back, I can confirm that adywan’s latest (still under wraps) version is FANTASTIC and a really satisfying improvement.
VERY interesting.
I think he’s said he wanted to do something different with the torture droid needle at some point too, but yeah, I’m pretty sure everything is pretty set in stone for ANH:R:HD by now.
That too, yeah.
I’m almost certain adywan previously said that he would not be accepting suggestions for this update of ANH:R.
Absolutely. So far it’s going to be the same edits, except for the original DS plans and maybe no prequel music.