digitalfreaknyc

For those who enjoyed Kingdom, you're in luck:  I have about 20 gigs of news footage from its release.  I'm just about done editing and putting it all together.  The sad part is that I lost the TVguide special, which was 30 minutes (i believe, possibly 60) and probably the best special done on the film.  :(  If anyone has it, please let me know.

I will be releasing these on dual-layer discs so as to not split it up too much.  I'm trying to conserve space.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Mielr said:

So, these are widescreen prints?

They are anamorphic and would thus ordinarily require an anamorphic lens to project.  I will be "cheating" by capturing the anamorphic image as a normal frame and squishing it into 16:9 in post.  If anyone has any suggestions as to how to do this while retaining the best quality, I'm all ears.

 You'll have to capture it as a 4:3 and then change the aspect ratio to 16:9...and then add the extra lines of "black." 

No?

dark_jedi said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Please please  please someone torrent ASAP!!!

 

It is not even fully uploaded to the newsgroups yet,just download Grabit and pay $25 to Astraweb for 110 GB's and get it tonight.

then you won't have to beg for a torrent,torrents suck for these big files anyways,who wants to seed forever just to have people hit and run?

 

 

I know zero about newsgroups.  Why should I pay $25 for it when I don't need it right away?  I prefer torrents or rapidshare.  It'll be on both eventually.

Please please  please someone torrent ASAP!!!

So....

I've got a BIG Indy project in the works to celebrate the DVD and Blu-Ray releases.  Stay tuned...there's going to be a TON of stuff in there.

Is anyone planning on torrenting this after they've downloaded it?   Please let us know!!

I'm not saying that what I've done looks bad by any means...I've just always used dvdrhelp as my guide for doing this.  I use Procoder as well.

Thanks for the info and, again, no disrespect to what you're doing here.  I downloaded the clip last night and it played perfectly on my PS3.  My DVD's are going to gather dust at this point. I might as well sell them.

adywan said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

 I've done my own PAL2NTSC projects as well so I know what I'm talking about.

How do you do your PAL2NTSC conversions then?

 

 I use TPMGenc.  You'd do a conversion from 25fps to 23.976 which has more of an effect visually than on the audio. 

You're doubling frames to keep up with the correct speed.

The audio is totally fine.

dark_jedi said:

I wholeheartedly agree with Ady on this one,I have done ALOT of PAL2NTSC custom DVD's and have seen NOTHING that would show any kind of quality drop at ALL,hell depending on filter chains,and the way you set up your avs script,it could look better,I LOVE taking rare OOP PAL DVD's that we do not have here and converting them,this is actually what I have been doing lately LOL.

 

So Ady you are dead on and correct.

 

DJ

 I've done my own PAL2NTSC projects as well so I know what I'm talking about.

 But are you slowing them down or keeping them at the same speed?

adywan said:

i'm afraid you are totally incorrect there. Slowing it down does not create any extra artefacts at all. the encode is done at the 25fps speed and then the frame rate is changed only. No other encoding process is happening at all. so its impossibly for any extra artefacts to be there. And Europe does have 1080p braodcasts because the BBCHD channel broadcasts 1080p and not 1080i which is the more common.

 

 Please explain how you can take something that's captured at 25fps, slow it down and stretch it to 24fps and NOT include any artifacts?  Unless you're not doing the stretch, that would be impossible. 

negative1 said:

 Actually, this is inaccurate.  There is no such thing as a 1080p broadcast.

Not in America.  That's why Adywan uses the German HDTV broadcast.

So he slowed it down to be 24fps?  That would introduce a host of other artifacts. 

 

man, you guys sure quote a lot, why don't we go over to original thread

here , and discuss it:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-STAR-WARS-SAGA-1080P-AVCHD-for-PS3-Blu-Ray-players-to-fit-on-a-DVD-9/topic/9536/

 

from the first post :

Disc 4:- A NEW HOPE - (basic colour correction)

Details:- 1080p True 24fps

AC3 5.1 English Dolby Digital Audio
Ac3 2.0 Directors commentary (selectable with the audio button on your remote)
aC3 2.0 Alternate commentary (selectable with the audio button on your remote)
Chapters
No menus
Greedo doesn't shoot

 

and yes, there are more soundtrack options added..

-------------------------------------------

there are 2 samples posted, download them, and see for yourself how

awesome they are !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

later

-1

 

Man...I still can't believe you have those film prints and know so little about film. 

If they're the german broadcasts, they're in PAL.  PAL is sped up at 25fps.  If you slow something down from 25-24...that will introduce other artifacts that maybe YOU cannot see but others will. The question is whether they were sourced from NTSC or PAL broadcasts. 

doubleofive said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

adywan said:

Janskeet said:

Adywan, do your new HD ersions have better picture quality than you revisits? Obviously they do or you wouldn't have them separate. But to this day the best source of SW is the '04 DVDs right, all thius HD stuff isn't SW in True HD. It's artificial HD, because there is n way to truely get better picture quality from DVDs right?

Janskeet you really should read up on what HD is and that my HD versions are from a high quality HD broadcast in true 1080p HD and therefore NOT artificial HD at all. These have nothing to do with my revisited edit at all so any questions about the differences in picture quality between the two is irrelevant because they are 2 totally different movies so that is why there are 2 separate threads.

The best source is not the 2004 DVD's at all. You really need to read the thread before posting . you seem to be just posting for the hell of it sometimes and doing this will only get you put on peoples ignore list. I noticed you just made a new thread about where my HD thread has gone when its only a few posts below this one.

 

Edit: i guess you beat me too it negative1. lol

 

 Actually, this is inaccurate.  There is no such thing as a 1080p broadcast.

Not in America.  That's why Adywan uses the German HDTV broadcast.

So he slowed it down to be 24fps?  That would introduce a host of other artifacts. 

adywan said:

Janskeet said:

Adywan, do your new HD ersions have better picture quality than you revisits? Obviously they do or you wouldn't have them separate. But to this day the best source of SW is the '04 DVDs right, all thius HD stuff isn't SW in True HD. It's artificial HD, because there is n way to truely get better picture quality from DVDs right?

Janskeet you really should read up on what HD is and that my HD versions are from a high quality HD broadcast in true 1080p HD and therefore NOT artificial HD at all. These have nothing to do with my revisited edit at all so any questions about the differences in picture quality between the two is irrelevant because they are 2 totally different movies so that is why there are 2 separate threads.

The best source is not the 2004 DVD's at all. You really need to read the thread before posting . you seem to be just posting for the hell of it sometimes and doing this will only get you put on peoples ignore list. I noticed you just made a new thread about where my HD thread has gone when its only a few posts below this one.

 

Edit: i guess you beat me too it negative1. lol

 Actually, this is inaccurate.  There is no such thing as a 1080p broadcast.

Ady,

Did you get my PM?

With everyone talking about "film" versions of trailers and whatknot, has there ever been a "film" version of this found or seen?  What was it originally done with?  Video or film? 

adywan said:

negative1 said:

actually as far as the commentary goes... , it was pretty funky...but the word is 'defunct'

Ah well. I guess thats what happens when i have no sleep working on 2 projects at once. lol

Would anyone be able to torrent this AVCHD version at all? If Negative1 is torrenting the HD-DVD version then it would be great if someone can cover the original AVCHD version for a torrent.

thanks

 

I'd love to torrent your blu-ray version if you send a copy.  I can't do newsgroups.

bkev said:

Not looking bad, but kinda blurry at the moment.

 agreed.  very blurry.  but looking better :)

Will you be torrenting as well, for those who don't "do" newsgroups?

Jedi surely won't be more difficult than the other two, considering people don't rate it nearly as high.

lordjedi said:

This is what you want and it was written by one of our very own members:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/anamorphic/index.html

 Bill Hunt is a member here?

negative1 said:

backing up, you still seem to think that even with this project, the final result on a DVD-9

will not match up to some supposed clarity of a future version  

 Correct.  It's called logic.

adywan said:

I'm only doing minor tweaks to these releases. Most of them will be closer to the theatrical SE releases than they appear now (apart from Han being the only one that shoots), so replacing the new with the old emperor and replacing Hayden. If i can get hold of the TPM laserdisc then i will be doing the theatrical version of TPM instead of the DVD version we have now. but removing things like Jedi Rocks i will leave to my Revisited edits

onto the debate about the size of tvs then i have to join in this

"Size matters not"... well a lot of times it doesn't. having a bigger screen doe not mean that the picture is better. in fact a larger screen could possibly introduce artefacts that aren't even there on the blu-ray/ AVCHD in the first place, and the same goes for smaller TV's. It all has to do with the quality of the panel (how much you paid for it or the manufacturer has nothing to do with it) many LCD's over 40" are using 8 or even 6 bit screens whereas other smaller ones are using 10 + bit. this does make a difference. colours just don't blend as well and even though you would be going through HDMi/digital connections the panel displays what looks like artefacts & fringing, that makes it look like compression problems, when in fact its not the case. if you have a 10+bit 32" LCD and a 60" 8 bit panel then the 32" is the one that would win every time as that is displaying closer to the original source than the 60" one. i never judge the quality of something just by the size of it there are so many other factors that have to go into consideration with TV's before the true quality of something can be argued

 Agreed.  I never said size was the only consideration.

negative1 said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Again, I want to get off of this subject because I certainly don't want Ady to think that i'm raining on his parade because I certainly am not.  As I said previously, I absolutely LOVED the revisited version of Star Wars.  I cannot remember the last time I actually sat through the entire movie and his version made me do it.  He has brought back the magic of Star Wars imho.

 

ha ha,  thats very diplomatic of you..

 

you criticize the rest of us with smaller TV's as being blind to the differences, and not

caring about compression, and even when there are acceptable HD versions out....

 

and then you turn around and praise Adywan for not using a HD source, that uses MPG2

compression, which you hate....and you ignore your initial statement, to make it sound like you're not

criticizing the quality, but you like the content?

man, you can't have it both ways...

 

later

-1

 Uhh...dude...you really don't know what you're talking about and, like your 35mm thread, are clearly out of your league.  Adywan IS using an HD source for this project.  I never said he wasn't.

Funcha said:

It's funny, because a lot of people automatically assume a DVD-9 just can't contain a high quality 1080p encode. It can, and I'm completely impressed with the quality of the AVCHD disks based off of Wookiegroomer's encodes. Will the Blu-Ray look better? Probably (If Lucas fixes the horrible color timing issues). I only have a 52-inch 720p DLP, though. Of course, some would consider that crap because "you can't get good quality unless you have at least 100 inches." I wonder if anyone with that mindset is ever trying to compensate for anything. I kid, I kid!

 You've, again, proved my point exactly.   You mention the color timing improving on the look of the eventual blu-rays.  That isn't what we're talking about here.  That's an artistic decision.  *I* am talking about one of compression and detail which has nothing to do with color timing issues.  The eventual blu-ray will absolutely positively DEFINITELY look better than anything put out on this board (save someone who has an original 35mm or 70mm print to work with).  People, this is about detail.  It's not about artistic decisions. 

No, you don't have to have a 100" screen to see problems but they are much more obvious at that size. 

Again, I want to get off of this subject because I certainly don't want Ady to think that i'm raining on his parade because I certainly am not.  As I said previously, I absolutely LOVED the revisited version of Star Wars.  I cannot remember the last time I actually sat through the entire movie and his version made me do it.  He has brought back the magic of Star Wars imho.

Ripplin said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

In fact, his "revisited" was the very first (and up until this point, ONLY) fan edit I've ever downloaded and watched.

"You've just taken your first step into a [MUCH] larger world." Hopefully you'll check out some of the other 'must haves,' like Deleted Magic, Building Empire and Returning to Jedi. All discs that every Star Wars fan should own. :)

 

Oh I have all of those.  I was referring to fanedits.  Those are more "extras" to me.