digitalfreaknyc

Wait...so 16mm is equal to 1080p no???

CO said:

Now I will say that because Blurays still arent in the average home the same way DVD's were, sales may not be as great as expected.  NOBODY I know has a Bluray player, even I don't have one, as I am so sick of re-buying my movies over and over.  Plus many people are waiting for digital downloads too, so it should be interesting to see the final sales.

 Actually, statistics show that Blu-ray's have been adopted faster than DVD's.

Doctor M said:

Blunt rip from TDB:

First up today, there's been a small degree of panic in some quarters online in the last couple days about director James Cameron's recent comments on the remastered Aliens transfer. Cameron was video interviewed over at Coming Soon.net about Avatar, and about 5:30 into the clip he talks about the new Aliens HD master for the upcoming Blu-ray. To quote: "It's spectacular. We went in and completely de-noised it, de-grained it, up-rezzed, color-corrected every frame, and it looks amazing. It looks better that it looked in the theaters originally. Because it was shot on a high-speed negative that was a new negative that didn't pan out too well and got replaced the following year. So it's pretty grainy. We got rid of all the grain. It's sharper and clearer and more beautiful than it's ever looked. And we did that to the long version, to the 'director's cut' or the extended play."

As you might expect, all that talk of de-noising and de-graining has some fans freaked out that the release is going to suffer the same excessively DNR-ed fate as Fox's recent Predator: Ultimate Hunter Blu-ray. Here's the deal: Everyone we trust who was involved, and/or has actually SEEN the new Aliens HD master for Blu-ray, reports to us that the film looks terrific. To the degree that DNR was used, it was applied carefully and with a light hand, with an eye toward striking the proper balance between maintaining the detail and integrity of the image and the desire to reduce grain and address the deficiencies of the stock used at the time. There is apparently STILL grain left in the image, it's just no longer excessive or distracting. Plus, Cameron is no slouch when it comes to the presentation quality of his films on disc, and he approved this transfer and master. Look, there's a VERY big difference in digital mastering when the filmmakers are directly involved in the process, as opposed to when they're not. So we're told the disc looks great, we trust that it looks great and I'll personally work to directly confirm that. My own feeling is that Predator was probably an aberration. Fox has generally been doing very good mastering work for Blu-ray in the last year or so, and I suspect this is going to be a non-issue when we all get our hands on the Aliens disc. 'Nuff said for now. By the way, it's a good interview at Coming Soon, so do check it out.

 I'm aware of the blurb.  I trust the bits to know when it's done right.  I don't think it's going to be a problem.

dark_jedi said:

@ digitalfreaknyc,
So when do you think it will be finished(True Lies BD) and will you share it?

Do you have a problem downloading 25gb? :)

I'm just waiting for the extras from the German version. :)

skyjedi2005 said:

The back to the future DVD's in the US did not have the restored DTS mix found on the Japan DVD's.  Wonder if they are on the blu ray?

As to Cameron will he ruin true lies with DVNR like he has promised to remove all grain from Aliens?

 Back to the Future is going to have lossless audio so the dts track is moot.

As far as we know, everyone has over-reacted to the Cameron statement.  It apparently looks amazing.

There's no labor involved.  it's a very quick process.

I also have the Japanese DTS DVD as well. ;)

Just set the DVR for it ;)

Doctor M said:

Speaking of, just saw an interview with James Cameron talking about his decisions to extend movies (specifically Avatar, but also the current BD restoration of Aliens)... and he said there are a few nice deleted scenes from True Lies he's considering putting back.

Enough with the giant smurfs already, I want some TL in a special edition BD.

Btw: is there interest in a full DVD PAL2NTSC DVD9 conversion of True Lies?

 You don't need a PAL2NTSC.  There's already a 16x9 version in NTSC from the Japanese Disc.

I'm currently making a blu-ray of the HD version with all extras.

Does anyone have True Lies from Germany with these?

Trailers:
- German Trailer (1:27)
- English Trailer (2:10)
Teaser [English] (0:59)
TV-Spot [English] (0:30)
Interviews: (15:22)
- True Lies: Arnold Schwarzenegger (5:22)
- True Lies: Jamie Lee Curtis (4:55)
- True Lies: James Cameron (5:04)
"True Lies: Hollywood Premiere" - featurette (5:30)

Or Die Hard 3 from Australia?

"Summer In The City" music video by The Lovin' Spoonful (02:28)
Interview with actor Bruce Willis (3:11):
Interview with actor Jeremy Irons (2:05):
Interview with actor Samuel L. Jackson (2:32):

xhonzi said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Harmy said:

The Lord of the Rings trilogy is a nice example of a double dip...
So far, they just dipped once, when the EEs get released they will dip the 2nd time (and probably 3rd and 4th too, as I expect the EEs to be 3 ultra expensive separate boxes, one for each film). 

 A double-dip is the exact same movie released twice.

The EE's wouldn't be considered a double dip.

I don't know.

While a double dip doesn't neccessarily mean content was held back to make a second (or third, etc.) release more appealing... I think anytime content (especially the preferred cut of a film) IS deliberately held back, that it is not only certainly a double dip, but the worst kind of double dip.

 But, in this case, it was ANNOUNCED that they would be released later.  They're following the same release schedule as the original DVD release.  Plus, they don't repeat extras.  I think it's great...and I have no interest in the LOTR movies.  Once was good enough.

Harmy said:

The Lord of the Rings trilogy is a nice example of a double dip...
So far, they just dipped once, when the EEs get released they will dip the 2nd time (and probably 3rd and 4th too, as I expect the EEs to be 3 ultra expensive separate boxes, one for each film). 

 A double-dip is the exact same movie released twice.

The EE's wouldn't be considered a double dip.

TV's Frink said:

I'll bet the prequel deleted scenes are in HD!!!

*runs away*

 Well, HOPEFULLY, they created all the effects in 1080p.

Chewtobacca said:

 even though it was the first release for such a film?

It is not the first release for these films.  I have rarely come across films that have previously been released on DVD that have had many HD extras, and I have rarely if ever seen HD deleted scenes. 

 oh god.

Look...these are SPECIFICALLY being prepared for a blu-ray release.  Thus, it is their first release.  Make sense? 

We're both saying the same thing. You're just not reading properly.

Chewtobacca said:

digitalfreaknyc said: I'm well aware of that. 

Well you brought it up as if to draw a distinction between this BD release and others, which I fail to see.  We all know they are new extras.  I am just doubtful as to the quality that they will be released in, based on past experience.

 Ok. So tell us...what recent release of a film has only included 480i material on a blu-ray even though it was the first release for such a film?

I'm fully prepared to admit that I'm wrong.  I'm just curious what you're comparing this release to.

Chewtobacca said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

 That's typically for films that were originally released on DVD.  They just re-use the extras.

Well, all the Star Wars films were released on DVD, so I fully expect the extras to be re-used and some new ones added.  I hope you are right, but I would not assume anything.

 I'm well aware of that.  However, these are NEW extras being created specifically for the blu-ray release.  There's a difference.

Chewtobacca said:

digitalfreaknyc said: I'd pretty much bet on them being 1080p.

You are braver than I am if you take that bet!  In my experience, Blu-ray extras are rarely in 1080p - theatrical trailers sometimes are if you are lucky, but more often than not they are in SD.

 That's typically for films that were originally released on DVD.  They just re-use the extras.

I would assume this will be something different.

Chewtobacca said:

Sluggo said:  Would you rather them restore the scenes? If they are just releasing a raw capture, maybe we can do something with them.

Yes; but deleted scenes are frequently released in the most appalling quality.  I have seen many that are so bad that -- even as someone who is always interested in seeing little moments, good or bad, in a film's development  -- they have been painful to watch.   Adywan is right.  There needs to be some form of minimal studio restoration if they are to stand any chance of being used in any form of fan-edit beyond one of Jambe's Davdar's excellent making-of documentaries.  If they are released in relatively good quality non-anamorphic widescreen with half-decent stereo audio, I will be pleasantly surprised...

 I'd pretty much bet on them being 1080p.  This set is being made for blu-ray and that's the way everything is going to be mastered (aside from older documentaries, if included).

Rebel1one1 said:

This picture says it all.

 There's more than one quack in that picture.

Nerfherder said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Yeah. I call bullshit on most of this scene.  It just doesn't make sense.

The only "old" footage in it seems to be vader walking through the hallway and entering the elevator. 

Wasn't there a scene where he was supposed to go see the emporer (besides the one where he chokes the guards)?  It could have easily been taken from that.

Sorry but I just don't believe anything Lucas tells us anymore.

So you don't believe Mark Hamill himself in that clip that Adywan posted then? He mentions he had vague memories of doing that scene, but wasn't sure until he saw it again and it all came back to him!

 What clip did Adywan post?  I didn't see it.

However, don't think that if Luca$ tells mark to sit up and beg that he won't do it.  Perhaps I'm too jaded but I just don't believe Lucas anymore.  He's screwed us over far too many times.

Yeah. I call bullshit on most of this scene.  It just doesn't make sense.

The only "old" footage in it seems to be vader walking through the hallway and entering the elevator. 

Wasn't there a scene where he was supposed to go see the emporer (besides the one where he chokes the guards)?  It could have easily been taken from that.

Sorry but I just don't believe anything Lucas tells us anymore.

Nerfherder said:

I know the music was scored in '82 - I'm saying it's nice to be able to hear it now WITH the scene in question :)

And that dialogue is not re-used - it's all 'new' though certainly sounds familiar on a cursory listen.

 Nope. I listened to it 3 times.

The first 2 "luke's" are looped/exactly the same.

And the rest is re-used.

According to this link:http://www.starwarsholidayspecial.com/swcs/main.html,

...it would seem that I was right.  Probably very little of this footage is actually old.

Jedi Temple34 said:

Sluggo said:

Fang Zei said:

Oh, wow, I thought from the title that you meant the entire thing! Would've really been amazing timing considering that recent screening in Baltimore.

Ditto.  You should re-title this thread

I titled it like this on purpose. LOL

 Then forgive me for calling you an idiot.

Nerfherder said:

Right - so we have to wait until next year to get these on blu-ray, and an undetermined amount of time after that (if ever... the wording seemed ambiguous to me) to see the originals on blu - Gee George you're all heart!

He could afford to have the originals preserved easily - heck Mr Robert Harris said he'd preserve the films for a bargain price (or something like that - cannot remember the exact quote!).

What makes me SICK with Lucas is he releases the SE's first, and yet is obviously peppering them with deleted scenes from the originals just to get original fans who HAVE to have this stuff, to buy again. That cut scene with Luke is awsome - love how he looks like the emperor. Very ominous and a great intro. Nice to finally see how the soundtrack fits into the scene too. Instead of all the CGI crap and revisions he's made to the films he could have inserted footage like that instead. Imagine the joy film fans would feel knowing that footage (and more) was on a blu-ray via seemless branching featuring the original theatrical versions! Would really make it a special release.

He's the ultimate stubborn skin-flint - releasing both versions together could have been achieved with ease. But noooo he has to use the old money excuse again. The fact he is one of the richest filmmakers around and knows people that would restore these films for free means nothing evidently.

ARGHHHHHHHH!

Though seeing these cut scenes will undoubtedly be cool - and I will hire this out - the madness ends here. No purchase from me until the originals are given the treatment they deserve.....

 Actually, as awesome as the footage seems:

a) it sounds like all the vader dialogue is re-used from other scenes

b) he says "luuuuuuuuuuuuuuke" far too many times

c) the scene of him in his chamber looks mashed together

d) it almost makes me wonder if that's mark under the cloak.  Have to wait and see.

The music fits because it was originally scored by JW in 1982. 

ThiefCobbler4ever said:

There are 15 deleted scenes on the Platinum Edition DVD. Was that the TV footage or something else?

 Did you read my post above?

No.  They were something different.

So I've been recording some HD movies on Cinemax and HBO and, for some reason, they're broadcast with 2.0 tracks instead of 5.1.   I'd like to sync up the 5.1 ac3 (or DTS) track from the DVD with the HD video.  What's the easiest way to go about making sure my sync is 100% accurate?  Unfortunately, there's no audio program (that I know of) that will allow me to match up multiple audio tracks like that and export without re-encoding.

Thoughts?