Watched this earlier. Some interesting things in this first part. Marcia looks like she is going to address being “erased” from SW history by George in a later episode. A few factual inaccuracies though. Looking forward to part 2.
Agreed. I definitely enjoyed it. What were some of the inaccuracies?
Is Nathan Butler on these boards at all? Been trying to reach him about a question…
I really like that Marcia has been coming out of the woods in the recent years. I wish she never left, she knew exactly what SW was… It’s cool to hear from a person who I had not heard talk or even seen anywhere other than possibly in old BTS clips until like 5 years ago.
Agreed. Is there anyone else who has refused to talk about it? I wonder who else on that credit list has never been interviewed. Everyone’s got a story.
Hey was there ever a complete upload of the theatrical film? I signed up for Myspleen but it won’t give me any results for Jaws or Jaws The Revenge. Not exactly sure how that website works, this is the first I’ve ever heard of it.
Yes there was. How are you searching? It’s extremely user friendly.
Here are a few ideas I have:
- The Lucas-owned IB Technicolor print
- A surviving interpositive or a CRI-sourced print (like 4K78) that has damage unique to it - there’s too much detail for it to be a release print, even an AI-enhanced one
- Trailers for some, other print sources for Han
- IIRC, the shot of Han appeared in From Star Wars to Jedi, so maybe a scan of that?
- Press kit materials
Topaz was definitely used to process these scans, which makes me think something about them didn’t warrant a full 2K or 4K scan.
Re: #4 - FSW2J was 4x3 so…no.
Re: #5 - I can’t imagine EPK footage would show a clip from the end of the movie, unless it was the SE. And I don’t think the SE would look like this.
Re: #3 - I’m not intimately familiar with all of the Star Wars trailers but did any of them have that shot?
Re: 1/2 - why would they scan that instead of something internally at Lucasfilm? Is it possible it’s a print from one of the ILM people?
OK, i have just found proof that they are using footage of the OT from trailers.
I guess the other question is: does that Han *yahoo" shot show up in any trailer with the same blemishes in the print on his face? That would confirm everything.
I don’t think all the footage is from trailers.
Right. So then where does that Han shot come from? None of this makes much sense.
Trailer
https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/icons-unearthed-star-wars-trailer/629a4a6b254cbe501a4e2813
Premieres next week.Looks like the video is blocked to people outside the usa.
How about now?
OK, i have just found proof that they are using footage of the OT from trailers.
I guess the other question is: does that Han *yahoo" shot show up in any trailer with the same blemishes in the print on his face? That would confirm everything.
Trailer
https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/icons-unearthed-star-wars-trailer/629a4a6b254cbe501a4e2813
Premieres next week.
Don’t get too excited. None of the film footage is newly scanned. It looks like they’ve used Topaz Video Enhance to upscale the footage because its got a huge tell tale sign of any bright image bleeding into the next frame causing artefacts. As you can see in this one, the laser in the previous frame is visible in the top right of the image. The same happens with every laser in that one shot in this video. That’s a dead giveaway that this type of software was used.
There’s also the old DNR smearing going on in some of the footage
But at least it does look like we are going to get some BTS footage from the OT that we haven’t seen before
So sad they did that when they could have used any number of fan scans that are out there… 😉 That would’ve been a true kick in the balls, though.
Think all (or at least most) shots are OUT!! They seem rescanned!! Oh my!!
This is what I’m sayin!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM_XwzOK_98
how about that shot of the Death Star blowing up. Not the SE…
Saw a commercial last night for a new docu-series that will be airing on VICE next month called Icons Unearthed. Hadn’t heard anything about it but they’re getting buzz for having Marcia Lucas as a part of it.
Would love to cap this. I prefer to hear from people that aren’t always interviewed.
Icons Unearthed: Star Wars includes exclusive interviews with Anthony Daniels (C-3PO), Billy Dee Williams (Lando Calrissian), Paul Hirsch, Phil Tippett, Rick Baker, Ken Ralston, John Dykstra, Howard Kazanjian, Julian Glover, Ian McDiarmid (Emperor Palpatine), Gus Lopez, Tom Spina and many more. Icons Unearthed: Star Wars is narrated by Michael Pennington, who portrayed Moff Tiaan Jerjerrod in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi.
I’ve been meaning to do my own edit of this. I have the mpeg-4 blu-ray disc release and was going to cut in the itunes version where necessary.
I’ve still got it here. Do you have an email? I can put this on GoogleDrive for you!
Do you still have a copy of this? I downloaded on of off the Spleen but the quality kind of goes in and out around the theatrical scene near the end, the sound drops out for a second.
You could download mine from the spleen. It’s the original disc encode.
Well, there goes 100$ bucks.
I mean…there’s a bunch of soundtrack boards. You could have asked there…or here. I have it as well. If you’re looking to own a physical copy, it’s rare. If you just want the files, it’s not.
This was fully released. It wasn’t some “rare” release. What’s the mystery about? It’s easily downloaded https://3ost.ru/6002-the-danny-elfman-batman-collection.html
What I mean is that it was never realized online officially, and the copies that do exist, are usually highly compressed.
Uh. I just posted a FLAC version. And that’s been up for years - literally since 2016.
This was fully released. It wasn’t some “rare” release. What’s the mystery about? It’s easily downloaded https://3ost.ru/6002-the-danny-elfman-batman-collection.html
Actually, ‘Requiem’ should still work for HD Itunes. I used it not that long ago.
It’s incredibly difficult to get right, though, from what I recall. Have to have the right version of iTunes and what not.
Once you buy and download it through iTunes, you can use a DRM removal tool like TunesKit, and then you’ll have a workable m4v file to do with as you please.
Tuneskit no longer works. It also DEFINITELY never worked with 4k.
What DOES work?
On iTunes? Nothing, AFAIK. There’s no way around their DRM.
Once you buy and download it through iTunes, you can use a DRM removal tool like TunesKit, and then you’ll have a workable m4v file to do with as you please.
Tuneskit no longer works. It also DEFINITELY never worked with 4k.
Why do you not think it’s better? D+77 is the awful grain wiped Disney plus version intertwined with a DNRed 4k77. 4k77 was sourced from a beautiful IB technicolor print and does not have the DNR.
I’m not a fan of watching something where the grain is so thick I can chew it. I’ll take detail over grain any day.
I think 4K77 would blend with the VHS better at least.
A laserdisc would blend best.
I recommend using 4k77 instead of despecialized for the shots which were taken from a new hope.
or D+77
but 4k77 is better.
No it’s not.
https://sloppysecondsales.com/?s=star+wars&post_type=product
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