digitalfreaknyc

Yeah this episode was very Marcia-centric. Not disputing it. Just…interesting.

Kamdan said:

Thank you very much for bringing this new series to my attention! I watched the intro and I’m already hooked and it’s great to see Marcia be acknowledged, especially how she outright says that George pretended she didn’t even exist after their divorce. This series also seems to be conscious about utilizing the original versions of the films, as they used a clip of Sebastian Shaw as unmasked Darth Vader with his eyebrows fully intact.

Umm…there’s a whole thread about it 😉

adywan said:

There were many interviews done for this event and they were all posted online right after the event took place. A few sites picked up on the interviews after they were released

https://vimeo.com/224132896

Absolutely. I remember those. But they weren’t a part of a big documentary series or something that the general public was aware of. Now, that’s also not to say that the general public is aware of this doc either but…I digress. 😃

adywan said:

Even though they claim this is the first interview Marcia has done for years, she did do on screen interviews for the ILM anniversary screening.

Yeah but who saw that? That wasn’t public and it wasn’t part of something mass-market…unless it aired or is able to be viewed somewhere publicly.

BedeHistory731 said:

Part of me thinks this was a condition that Marcia had for agreeing to do the documentary. It had to paint her in as favorable a light as possible for it to work.

I mean…let’s be realistic: that’s a big reason why any of us are watching. Everyone else has been interviewed to death. She’s the newbie.

Wait…how did you see the 2nd episode already?

Have there been any public comments about Kurtz after the first episode?

adywan said:

Watched this earlier. Some interesting things in this first part. Marcia looks like she is going to address being “erased” from SW history by George in a later episode. A few factual inaccuracies though. Looking forward to part 2.

Agreed. I definitely enjoyed it. What were some of the inaccuracies?

Is Nathan Butler on these boards at all? Been trying to reach him about a question…

LexX said:

I really like that Marcia has been coming out of the woods in the recent years. I wish she never left, she knew exactly what SW was… It’s cool to hear from a person who I had not heard talk or even seen anywhere other than possibly in old BTS clips until like 5 years ago.

Agreed. Is there anyone else who has refused to talk about it? I wonder who else on that credit list has never been interviewed. Everyone’s got a story.

hshayne5411 said:

Hey was there ever a complete upload of the theatrical film? I signed up for Myspleen but it won’t give me any results for Jaws or Jaws The Revenge. Not exactly sure how that website works, this is the first I’ve ever heard of it.

Yes there was. How are you searching? It’s extremely user friendly.

BedeHistory731 said:

Here are a few ideas I have:

1. The Lucas-owned IB Technicolor print
2. A surviving interpositive or a CRI-sourced print (like 4K78) that has damage unique to it - there’s too much detail for it to be a release print, even an AI-enhanced one
3. Trailers for some, other print sources for Han
4. IIRC, the shot of Han appeared in From Star Wars to Jedi, so maybe a scan of that?
5. Press kit materials

Topaz was definitely used to process these scans, which makes me think something about them didn’t warrant a full 2K or 4K scan.

Re: #4 - FSW2J was 4x3 so…no.
Re: #5 - I can’t imagine EPK footage would show a clip from the end of the movie, unless it was the SE. And I don’t think the SE would look like this.

Re: #3 - I’m not intimately familiar with all of the Star Wars trailers but did any of them have that shot?

Re: 1/2 - why would they scan that instead of something internally at Lucasfilm? Is it possible it’s a print from one of the ILM people?

adywan said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

adywan said:

OK, i have just found proof that they are using footage of the OT from trailers.

I guess the other question is: does that Han *yahoo" shot show up in any trailer with the same blemishes in the print on his face? That would confirm everything.

I don’t think all the footage is from trailers.

Right. So then where does that Han shot come from? None of this makes much sense.

adywan said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

Trailer
https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/icons-unearthed-star-wars-trailer/629a4a6b254cbe501a4e2813
Premieres next week.

Looks like the video is blocked to people outside the usa.

How about now?

https://youtu.be/MOaRJo-lqqg

adywan said:

OK, i have just found proof that they are using footage of the OT from trailers.

I guess the other question is: does that Han *yahoo" shot show up in any trailer with the same blemishes in the print on his face? That would confirm everything.

Trailer
https://video.vice.com/en_us/video/icons-unearthed-star-wars-trailer/629a4a6b254cbe501a4e2813
Premieres next week.

adywan said:

Don’t get too excited. None of the film footage is newly scanned. It looks like they’ve used Topaz Video Enhance to upscale the footage because its got a huge tell tale sign of any bright image bleeding into the next frame causing artefacts. As you can see in this one, the laser in the previous frame is visible in the top right of the image. The same happens with every laser in that one shot in this video. That’s a dead giveaway that this type of software was used.

There’s also the old DNR smearing going on in some of the footage

But at least it does look like we are going to get some BTS footage from the OT that we haven’t seen before

So sad they did that when they could have used any number of fan scans that are out there… 😉 That would’ve been a true kick in the balls, though.

Omni said:

Think all (or at least most) shots are OUT!! They seem rescanned!! Oh my!!

This is what I’m sayin!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM_XwzOK_98

how about that shot of the Death Star blowing up. Not the SE…

Saw a commercial last night for a new docu-series that will be airing on VICE next month called Icons Unearthed. Hadn’t heard anything about it but they’re getting buzz for having Marcia Lucas as a part of it.

https://deadline.com/2022/06/vice-tvs-icons-unearthed-star-wars-series-debuts-with-first-ever-on-camera-interview-with-george-lucas-ex-wife-marcia-1235038275/

Would love to cap this. I prefer to hear from people that aren’t always interviewed.

Icons Unearthed: Star Wars includes exclusive interviews with Anthony Daniels (C-3PO), Billy Dee Williams (Lando Calrissian), Paul Hirsch, Phil Tippett, Rick Baker, Ken Ralston, John Dykstra, Howard Kazanjian, Julian Glover, Ian McDiarmid (Emperor Palpatine), Gus Lopez, Tom Spina and many more. Icons Unearthed: Star Wars is narrated by Michael Pennington, who portrayed Moff Tiaan Jerjerrod in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi.

I’ve been meaning to do my own edit of this. I have the mpeg-4 blu-ray disc release and was going to cut in the itunes version where necessary.

Cj6543 said:

JawsTDS said:

I’ve still got it here. Do you have an email? I can put this on GoogleDrive for you!

Do you still have a copy of this? I downloaded on of off the Spleen but the quality kind of goes in and out around the theatrical scene near the end, the sound drops out for a second.

You could download mine from the spleen. It’s the original disc encode.

That guy with no name said:

Well, there goes 100$ bucks.

I mean…there’s a bunch of soundtrack boards. You could have asked there…or here. I have it as well. If you’re looking to own a physical copy, it’s rare. If you just want the files, it’s not.

That guy with no name said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

This was fully released. It wasn’t some “rare” release. What’s the mystery about? It’s easily downloaded https://3ost.ru/6002-the-danny-elfman-batman-collection.html

What I mean is that it was never realized online officially, and the copies that do exist, are usually highly compressed.

Uh. I just posted a FLAC version. And that’s been up for years - literally since 2016.

This was fully released. It wasn’t some “rare” release. What’s the mystery about? It’s easily downloaded https://3ost.ru/6002-the-danny-elfman-batman-collection.html

stretch009 said:

Actually, ‘Requiem’ should still work for HD Itunes. I used it not that long ago.

It’s incredibly difficult to get right, though, from what I recall. Have to have the right version of iTunes and what not.