darthrush

Smithers said:

Finding Dory 8/10

The trailers made it look pretty terrible but I was shocked at how good it was! It still did follow the same formula as the first and had some replaced voice actors it was still really good. Check it out!

Very Exicted to check this out! I thought the trailers did look terrible also but the reviews seem promising 😃

Would you say it’s better than Monsters University ? (which I happened to enjoy a fair bit)

Hal 9000 said:

Sounds like a great idea; I’ll see how it does!
Even if we have to cut back to the X-wings descending and lose Poe’s 78th time saying, “Give [it] everything [you] got,” that’ll still be an organic transition.

I do like that line 😉

Density said:

Jeebus said:

There are certain times where objectivity does apply to art. If I said that the Mona Lisa depicted a rat being eaten by a living piece of pasta, that would be objectively wrong.

Once again, you mix up the difference between making a value judgment about how good a work an art is, and a factual claim that is objectively right or wrong. Really not that difficult a concept to understand.

Frink, please read this.

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

Darth Id said:

I enjoy the way TV Freak does nothing but insult and deride people, but when the tables are turned he froths with base profanity and tries to shout everyone down by asserting some irrelevant personal experience that he believes gives him the moral high ground.
If someone calls him an “ugly Gungan,” he’ll be all like: "TRIGGER!!! OPPRESSOR!! My Grandmother was a Gungan, and she DIED! In like, the holocaust!!! F@^ you you f&^%ing $#^%@$#^%@$#^%@$#^%@$#^%@*!!!
In fact, he’ll occasionally interject that way even if someone calls JarJar Binks an “ugly Gungan!” because he’s such an irrepressible umbrage-taker. It’s all quite random and delightful.
All-dishin’-no-takin’. Textbook bully.

Compeletly agree. Frink is incredibly rude but becomes very defensive when any type of insult is thrown at him. Textbook bully 😉

I’m sorry you can’t handle my opinion that some art is not subjective.

All art is subjective. You CANNOT prove with measurable empirical evidence that a painting, song, movie, or dance is “bad”.

And I’m sorry you seem to think it’s so important for some stupid reason.

Because dismissing others opinions because you think yours is more correct makes you very arrogant and exclusive. That’s not a good environment new members should be introduced to. We should accept all opinions…not agree with those opinions but accept them. And then discuss/debate what we personally liked or disliked.

That’s what makes movies and art in general great. Everyone can appreciate it in their own way. Everyone can share their thoughts together on what artists bring us. That’s why art is so beautiful. Objectively deeming things shit and refusing to hear out people’s reasons is saddening to see.

Darth Id said:

I enjoy the way TV Freak does nothing but insult and deride people, but when the tables are turned he froths with base profanity and tries to shout everyone down by asserting some irrelevant personal experience that he believes gives him the moral high ground.
If someone calls him an “ugly Gungan,” he’ll be all like: "TRIGGER!!! OPPRESSOR!! My Grandmother was a Gungan, and she DIED! In like, the holocaust!!! F@^ you you f&^%ing $#^%@$#^%@$#^%@$#^%@$#^%@*!!!
In fact, he’ll occasionally interject that way even if someone calls JarJar Binks an “ugly Gungan!” because he’s such an irrepressible umbrage-taker. It’s all quite random and delightful.
All-dishin’-no-takin’. Textbook bully.

Compeletly agree. Frink is incredibly rude but becomes very defensive when any type of insult is thrown at him. Textbook bully 😉

njvc said:

Yes I’ll certainly put them on myspleen, once the empire set is on Mega.

Awesome! 😃

Dek Rollins said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

The music in BvS is good? It’s just two and a half hours of constant Zimmer BWAAHM™ sounds.

I like to call them Brahms™ 😄. And like I’ve said on this forum before: How is he so popular? The only interesting thing I’ve ever heard in any of his scores was the string constantly rising in pitch in the Joker scenes of TDK.

I like S.T.A.Y from interstellar

imperialscum said:

TV’s Frink said:

imperialscum said:

Frank your Majesty said:

If there’s no way to objectively rate an actors performance, why are there acting schools? Why are there film schools?

Just because you can teach someone to do something that doesn’t automatically mean that you can also objectively evaluate whatever he/she does in the end. I can teach you how to make a pizza, despite not having an objective measure to evaluate the pizza quality.

Acting and film schools don’t give out grades or diplomas? Interesting.

They do but that doesn’t mean it was evaluated based on an objective measure. It just means it was a subjective evaluation.

Frank your Majesty said:

I get it now. Everyone is an expert on everything and all opinions are equally valid. So my opinion on how to build a bridge is just as important as the opinion of a professional architect, even if my design would collapse, but hey, in my opinion a bridge doesn’t need to be stable, it’s all subjective.

Unfortunately you don’t get it. Even if it is an subjective evaluation (because for a certain thing there is no objective measure) it doesn’t mean all subjective evaluations should have the same weight.

And your example is very bad. Design and statics are two different things. Former is completely subjective, while the latter has objective measures.

Once Again, surprisingly Impscum speaks the truth.

Anybody think of uploading these on myspleen?

Neglify said:

It looks like the extended cut of BvS has leaked and comicbookmovie.com gives some details about the added scenes. MAJOR SPOILERS. If you want to see the EE with fresh eyes, do not read.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_vs_superman/spoilers-6-biggest-reveals-from-the-batman-superman-ultimate-a142561

Seems interesting!

Jeebus said:

There are certain times where objectivity does apply to art. If I said that the Mona Lisa depicted a rat being eaten by a living piece of pasta, that would be objectively wrong.

No. That’s called describing things. Same as stating that Tom Hanks stars in Forrest Gump. Whether you like his performance or not is subjective.

Do any of you in all honesty believe film is objective?

Density said:

TV’s Frink said:

Density said:

The funny thing is this little debate about whether it’s possible for art to be objectively bad or not has an objective answer: It’s not.

You must be a big fan of actual shit on a canvas. I’m sure you find it profound, inspiring, and beautiful.

How many do you own? And how do you handle the smell?

None of these stupid analogies change anything. You’re missing the point entirely. It doesn’t matter what you or I think about it. Because art by its very definition is subjective and everyone has their own standards for judging its value, it is literally impossible to claim some art is objectively “better” than others. You can critique it all you want, argue about it, explain why according to your own standards you think it is good or bad, and that’s fine. But at the end of the day, no matter how well-supported and rational it may be, it is still your opinion. Not some kind of hard fact.

I don’t understand how Frink cannot get this through his head.

Tyrphanax said:

But, objectively, the album is Bad.

LOL

DominicCobb said:

What about films that are trying to be bad (Syfy, Asylum, etc.)? If it’s their objective to be bad, aren’t they objectively bad?

And who says art can’t be objectively good or bad? I can think of plenty of example, like in music. Michael Jackson’s 1987 album Bad for instance.

There are people in the world who don’t like it. I love that album but some might not.

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

Interstellar (2014)

This movie had no business being almost three hours long. Did the editor take a long nap and the movie was released without his or her knowledge? Beyond that, it reminded me a little of Sunshine in that both were very interesting movies that utterly failed in the last act. There was some really good stuff in it, which only made it all the more disappointing.

7/10

Interesting review. I was alright with the ending because of its ambition and the fact that it presented the idea of time not being an arrow but being just all at once. Neil De’Grasse Tyson has some cool points about the science of the ending. So after all that, I feel I can appreciate it a bit more.

I thought the score was beatiful, the acting terrific and the chemistry very strong between Murph and her father. The scene of Brand wanting to go to a planet because of love did not work for me. But visually, Interstellar is a masterpiece.

IMHO Interstellar works on enough levels that it’s immense ambition can be felt viscerally and despite a few problems I feel perfectly fine giving it a strong 9/10.

ITS OBJECTIVELY A PERFECT MOVIE AND ALSO OBAMA WASNT BORN IN THE US

Just when I thought you might be mature and actually discuss the damn movie. Way to take the high road Frink.

INTERNET DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MOVIES ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!

No. I actually just wanted to have a casual discussion about a movie.

YEAH BUT YOU’RE WRONG ABOUT THAT

SMH

I GIVE YOUR COMEBACK A 3/10

I don’t really give a shit. You obviously will never realize some pretty basic facts.

suspiciouscoffee said:

My point (wasn’t clear, my fault) was that the Death of Superman is the worst thing about the entire movie. It’s insulting to waste that iconic story on the last few minutes of Snyder’s Abriged The Dark Knight Returns: Footnote To Justice League. It’s half-assed and unearned.

Agreed. Batman V Superman is like TPM. I tried to convince myself I liked it until I realized I truly thought on the inside it was terrible.

I really wanted to enjoy Batman V Superman but all I found redeemable was Ben Affleck as Batman. Even the actual BvS fight was a bit slow and dissapointing.

And the fact they wasted supermans death drove me crazy! They should have not crammed four different movies into one.

Tyrphanax said:

imperialscum said:

Films cannot be objectively bad or good as there is no objective measure for that.

I mean there is though: if the movie sucks, it’s bad.

God Damn! A movie can suck or be good to anyone!!! If it is objectively bad then there is absolutely no point of discussion! Film is art and art is subjective!!

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

Interstellar (2014)

This movie had no business being almost three hours long. Did the editor take a long nap and the movie was released without his or her knowledge? Beyond that, it reminded me a little of Sunshine in that both were very interesting movies that utterly failed in the last act. There was some really good stuff in it, which only made it all the more disappointing.

7/10

Interesting review. I was alright with the ending because of its ambition and the fact that it presented the idea of time not being an arrow but being just all at once. Neil De’Grasse Tyson has some cool points about the science of the ending. So after all that, I feel I can appreciate it a bit more.

I thought the score was beatiful, the acting terrific and the chemistry very strong between Murph and her father. The scene of Brand wanting to go to a planet because of love did not work for me. But visually, Interstellar is a masterpiece.

IMHO Interstellar works on enough levels that it’s immense ambition can be felt viscerally and despite a few problems I feel perfectly fine giving it a strong 9/10.

ITS OBJECTIVELY A PERFECT MOVIE AND ALSO OBAMA WASNT BORN IN THE US

Just when I thought you might be mature and actually discuss the damn movie. Way to take the high road Frink.

INTERNET DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MOVIES ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!

No. I actually just wanted to have a casual discussion about a movie.

YEAH BUT YOU’RE WRONG ABOUT THAT

SMH

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

Interstellar (2014)

This movie had no business being almost three hours long. Did the editor take a long nap and the movie was released without his or her knowledge? Beyond that, it reminded me a little of Sunshine in that both were very interesting movies that utterly failed in the last act. There was some really good stuff in it, which only made it all the more disappointing.

7/10

Interesting review. I was alright with the ending because of its ambition and the fact that it presented the idea of time not being an arrow but being just all at once. Neil De’Grasse Tyson has some cool points about the science of the ending. So after all that, I feel I can appreciate it a bit more.

I thought the score was beatiful, the acting terrific and the chemistry very strong between Murph and her father. The scene of Brand wanting to go to a planet because of love did not work for me. But visually, Interstellar is a masterpiece.

IMHO Interstellar works on enough levels that it’s immense ambition can be felt viscerally and despite a few problems I feel perfectly fine giving it a strong 9/10.

ITS OBJECTIVELY A PERFECT MOVIE AND ALSO OBAMA WASNT BORN IN THE US

Just when I thought you might be mature and actually discuss the damn movie. Way to take the high road Frink.

INTERNET DISCUSSIONS ABOUT MOVIES ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!

No. I actually just wanted to have a casual discussion about a movie.

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

TV’s Frink said:

Interstellar (2014)

This movie had no business being almost three hours long. Did the editor take a long nap and the movie was released without his or her knowledge? Beyond that, it reminded me a little of Sunshine in that both were very interesting movies that utterly failed in the last act. There was some really good stuff in it, which only made it all the more disappointing.

7/10

Interesting review. I was alright with the ending because of its ambition and the fact that it presented the idea of time not being an arrow but being just all at once. Neil De’Grasse Tyson has some cool points about the science of the ending. So after all that, I feel I can appreciate it a bit more.

I thought the score was beatiful, the acting terrific and the chemistry very strong between Murph and her father. The scene of Brand wanting to go to a planet because of love did not work for me. But visually, Interstellar is a masterpiece.

IMHO Interstellar works on enough levels that it’s immense ambition can be felt viscerally and despite a few problems I feel perfectly fine giving it a strong 9/10.

ITS OBJECTIVELY A PERFECT MOVIE AND ALSO OBAMA WASNT BORN IN THE US

Just when I thought you might be mature and actually discuss the damn movie. Way to take the high road Frink.

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN OBJECTIVELY BAD ICE CREAM FLAVOR

Whoa, settle down there cowboy.

Who knows? Someone might like it. You can’t objectively say a certain Ice cream flavor is the best for example.

It baffles me you still think film is objective. Film being subjective is one of the primary reasons that movies are considered an art.

TV’s Frink said:

Put aside ROTS for a moment. You guys all seriously believe there is no such thing as an objectively bad movie? Have you seen The Room? I love The Room, but every single thing about it is objectively bad. Terrible directing, terrible writing, terrible acting, terrible terrible terrible.

Just try to prove me wrong on that one.

This is my point. If a film were objectively terrible, then there would be no point in arguing why YOU like it.

TV’s Frink said:

Interstellar (2014)

This movie had no business being almost three hours long. Did the editor take a long nap and the movie was released without his or her knowledge? Beyond that, it reminded me a little of Sunshine in that both were very interesting movies that utterly failed in the last act. There was some really good stuff in it, which only made it all the more disappointing.

7/10

Interesting review. I was alright with the ending because of its ambition and the fact that it presented the idea of time not being an arrow but being just all at once. Neil De’Grasse Tyson has some cool points about the science of the ending. So after all that, I feel I can appreciate it a bit more.

I thought the score was beatiful, the acting terrific and the chemistry very strong between Murph and her father. The scene of Brand wanting to go to a planet because of love did not work for me. But visually, Interstellar is a masterpiece.

IMHO Interstellar works on enough levels that it’s immense ambition can be felt viscerally and despite a few problems I feel perfectly fine giving it a strong 9/10.

Dek Rollins said:

darthrush said:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN OBJECTIVELY BAD FILM

Just the same as:

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN OBJECTIVELY BAD ICE CREAM FLAVOR

Flavor would be in comparison to a genre or style. I think an ice cream recipe would be a better comparison when speaking of a specific film.

I never thought of it that way 😃 Even better solidifies my point

Density said:

imperialscum said:

I just dropped by to throw in some facts. Films cannot be objectively bad or good as there is no objective measure for that. And yes, opinion cannot be wrong or right. And the person who came up with the dumb example of moon landing dispute should better educate himself on a difference between an opinion and a claim.

Yes, thank you. You can have your own opinions, but you can’t have your own facts. Your view on the quality of a movie is an opinion. It’s subjective and there is no way to measure it as objectively true or not. But your view on the actuality of the moon landing is, as you put it, a “claim” that is dependent on the facts. It’s either true or not true, because either the moon landing happened (it did) or it didn’t happen. That is a matter of fact, not opinion. Whether Revenge of the Sith is a good movie or not is not.

Preach the truth. Maybe some of it can eventually rub off on Frink.