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#979092
Topic
STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Nick66 said:

doubleofive said:

Whatever Nick was doing, it worked?

😉

Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.

By being an asshole you literally just made adywan delay the project. Be patient and don’t make shit jokes. Adywan owes you nothing so don’t be an ungrateful bitch.

Thank you Revisted team, and sorry for my harsh language. I continue to enjoy my Episode 4 Revisted DVD and have gladly shared it with many peers. ESB:R looks incredibly promising 😃

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#977752
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different prequel versions? what to watch?
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LuckyGungan2001 said:

In terms of prequel fanedits, my favourites have always been:

Magnoliafan’s Balance of the Force

Great restructure. All Gungan’s and Niemoidians are dubbed and some significant changes are shown through the subtitles, for example the Trade Federation casually discusses killing Naboo inhabitants, and the Gungans are looking for some kind of crystal the people of Naboo stole from them. Jar Jar is also this brash, Han Solo type, but without the cool factor, and improves tenfold. If you can get past the bad video quality and subtitles/strange languages, it’s great.

The Phantom Editor’s Attack of the Phantom

Little I can say about this one. All changes are well thought out and imrpove the story. I highly recommend the editors commentary if you choose to watch it a second time.

Kerr’s Dark Force Rising

Very short version of Episode III, cutting out a ton of my problems with the film. Grievous is actually pretty cool, and the pacing is great in it. No scene is useless.

I’ve never been a fan of L8wrtr’s or HAL9000’s versions, as they don’t do much to change the film and I essentially feel like I’m watching the original (though this reality is frequently broken by L8wrtr’s version with their poor audio cuts). Magnoliafan’s The Clone War is quite good, though he really doesn’t cut much from the film.

All three of these are low quality and sadly don’t cut it for me. For example, Kerrs edit is great and I actually think it’s on par with L8wtrs edit but it’s DVD5 quality. It’s literally unwatchable for me on a tv 😦 If Kerr released an HD edit I would gladly recommend you show your kids that.

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#977546
Topic
different prequel versions? what to watch?
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SnooPac said:

Thanks mr Smithers. Looks like you and darthrush agree on ep2 and 3 (hal & l8wrtr). So I’ll likely try to grab those (eventually).
Will have to decide on ep1 though. Again, not something I’ll need to look into until after the originals.

I’d of course recommend buying the originals first. The blu Ray bonuses are very awesome 😃

Concerning episode 1 edits:

I HIGHLY recommend Hal’s because it gives you a very similar experience of watching the Offical release except it seamlessly cuts bad diagloue and streamlines the story to be more simple.

Q2’s edits are more heavy and rough. He removes Anakin in the space battle which is weird to adapt to. Your kid can better connect with the story if Anakin is apart of the final battle. But as said before, Hal still cuts bits and pieces here and there for an overall stronger third act. The other edits involving re dubbing are more radical. I’d say they’re more experimental and wouldn’t appeal as much. Given what your looking for, I really think Hal’s episode 1 is the best course to go. It’s safe, familiar, yet still greatly improved.

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#977543
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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Lord Haseo said:

imperialscum said:

Lord Haseo said:

You believe all of the OT films are of the same quality?

First, quality is non-existent property when it comes to art (i.e. completely subjective things).

It’s nonexistent in the fact that it’s not something physically tangible but it exists in the mind and that is all that is pertinent for this conversation.

Second, I like them all equally.

SW and ESB I can understand because the have advantages over the other. SW is funnier, more visually interesting, has a catchier soundtrack and has the aura about it. It’s the epitome of classic Star Wars. ESB has a better written script, is better paced, has way better acting and dialogue.

I don’t really consider ROTJ as being in the same league. At it’s best it exceeds a lot of moments that came before it but other aspects of the film leave a sour taste in my mouth.

I have similar feelings about ROTJ not being in the league of Star Wars and ESB. I consider Star Wars and ESB to be some of the best films of all time… Whereas ROTJ is solid on its own but fueled with nostalgia (and cause it’s Star Wars) it is still one of my favorite movies.

EDIT:

ROTJ was a fitting end to the OT but as a finale to the saga it feels a bit weak. This is why I’m so damn excited for episode 9 (not as much as 8) is because it can give me the grand bombastic finale that I’m craving.

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#974801
Topic
Ben Affleck cast as new Batman
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I thought the Justice Leauge trailer was pretty strong but all their humor combined in those couple minutes still aren’t as great as the one last scene of the new doctor strange trailer. Marvel NAILS humor. DC has been hit or miss… Cough cough “every one of perry whites cringey jokes in BvS”.

But the Wonder Woman trailer blew me away! I wasn’t excited at all for her standalone but this trailer really got me legitamely pumped! DC I think had some great stuff shown at comic con. It does make me mad how reactionary all their content is though…

“Ohhhhhh there’s too much death/destruction in Man of steel!” cries out hoards of fans. DC decides to remind the audience fifty million times that the climatic battle location in BvS is deserted. “Luckily every one is off work and this area is entirely deserted”.

Then people complain further…

“BvS is too dark! No fun! No Levity! This sucks” DC then comes out with a trailer filled to the brim with jokes that basically send the message of: “hey guys were not dark anymore. We’re just like marvel, yah! We wanted to be dark cause that’s cool but we guess being funny and light is the only thing that can make money. You like?? 😃”. I wish they just hired good writers and stayed bold and true to a good vision from beginning to end and not constantly react to every fan response. I personally liked a dark take on superman and other characters but just thought they could have crafted a better story. The tone wasn’t the biggest issue. It was character development, story problems and atrocious editing. Happily the UE fixes many of these issues.

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#974457
Topic
Ranking the Batman films
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Neglify said:

I updated my rankings for animated entries.

Neglify said:

  1. Batman: The Animated Series - 10 batarangs
  2. Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker - 9 batarangs
  3. Batman: The Killing Joke - 9 batarangs
  4. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm - 8 batarangs
  5. Batman: Under the Red Hood - 8 batarangs
  6. Batman: Year One - 7 batarangs
  7. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns - 7 batarangs
  8. Batman: Assault on Arkham - 7 batarangs
  9. Superman/Batman: Apocalypse - 6 batarangs
  10. Batman: Mystery of the Batwoman - 6 batarangs
  11. Batman: Bad Blood - 6 batarangs
  12. Superman/Batman: Public Enemies - 6 batarangs
  13. Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths - 6 batarangs
  14. Justice League: The New Frontier - 6 batarangs
  15. Son of Batman - 6 batarangs
  16. Batman vs. Robin - 6 batarangs
  17. The Batman/Superman Movie - 6 batarangs
  18. Batman Beyond - 6 batarangs
  19. Batman & Mr. Freeze - 6 batarangs
  20. Batman Unlimited: Monster Mayhem - 6 batarangs
  21. Batman Unlimited: Animal Instincts - 6 batarangs
  22. LEGO Batman The Movie: DC Super Heroes Unite - 6 batarangs
  23. Scooby Doo Meets Batman - 6 batarangs
  24. The Batman vs. Dracula - 5 batarangs
  25. LEGO Batman: Be-leaguered - 5 batarangs

Iv heard so far that the comic con premiere of the killing joke was very controversial. What did you think of the sex scene that Iv heard so much about? Iv also heard many fans are angry that they made Batgirl such a prominent part of the story contrary to its comic book counterpart. I’ll be watching it on blu Ray. I’m just very curious of your opinion on these complaints? And was it received well?

I personally LOVED TDKR. So I’m very excited to watch “The Killing Joke”.

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#973892
Topic
In my defense
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Jay said:

Based on an IP check, the following accounts have accessed the forum from the same IP addresses:

HansiG
HansiG_Temp
JohnySasaki
Johny-Sasaki
N*ggersNeedNotApply
NotWario64
OtakuWarrior
OtakuWarrior2
ReturnOfTheScheißegurke
Scheißegurke
Scheissegurke2
Scheißegurke2episode1
ScheisseGurke666
ScheißegurkeStrikesBack
SchSchScheißegurkegurkegurke
SockPuppet
Wario64I
Wario64-OneUseSock
Wario69

Your ban is permanent now, obviously.

Shit just got real.

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#973672
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Today's Trolling.
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CatBus said:

Someone threw a Hentai party and I missed the whole thing? Typical.

towne32 said:

Needing to wait a week before being allowed to post. (not friendly to new users, but I would argue that they and we would be better off if they lurked and read other posts for a week anyway)

Of the suggestions, this is the only one that seems off to me. No images, sure, no links, great, but no posts? Not sure about this one.

Keep in mind that many of the people in my thread are the “good” sort of hit-and-run account. Someone who is totally down with our preservations, community goals, etc, but sees no need to join the forum per se, except that they need to ask one question about Project Threepio, so they make an account, post, get their answer, and we never hear from them again. Add to this the fact that many of the posters do not communicate in English very well (which may be the number one reason they weren’t already on the forum), and it wouldn’t take many roadblocks to make this process too hard for them. Heck, I even had to save one of my Russian counterparts from a temp-ban here once because his command of English just makes him sound like a bot hijacked his account.

Most of the suggestions here are pretty neutral in this scenario, though, so I’d say go for them. Waiting a week for any posting at all might really be too much if you really have no intent to join the forum long-term, and you’re pasting all of the forum messages into Google Translate and trying to make sense of the results.

Ditto

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#973313
Topic
Last movie seen
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Darth Id said:

darthrush said:

Ex Machina- 5/5

Beatiful science fiction. And it was real science fiction too. It explores humanity and juggles so many interesting ideas along the narrative. It also is a thriller. The unknown answers to the questions they pose adds to the tension since we don’t fully understand the A.I. The performances were great. They felt authentic and were very engaging. It makes you constantly question who’s on who’s side, what side your on, who’s ethically right in the situation etc. Ex Machina for me is easily one of the best movies of 2015.

P.S. (SPOILERS BELOW!)

The ending of the film broke my heart. It was a gutsy move by the filmmakers of this movie and though it made me sooooooo sad it was a brilliant ending. It illustrates the danger of A.I perfectly by showing the huge deception by the A.I. But by doing so it had passed the test and was truly human. By the end of the film, the caged in A.I had escaped but locked in the humans. Again though, the ending BROKE my heart. Caleb didn’t deserve any of the shit he got. Nathan actually was kinda right. At first I cheered for Ava cause I thought her and Caleb were escaping. But then once I saw Ava ditching Caleb I realized Nathan was right. So should I feel bad or did he deserve it? Ugh, Ex Machina man. Again, an overall brilliant film.

So…I guess you didn’t notice that it’s deliberately schlocky, mindless fun?
Even after the dance number?

It is a very funny film indeed. I like the dance scene but for different reasons. I think it really sells the idea of how weird/odd this trip has gotten for Caleb. Good point though. The movie surprisingly has many moments of welcomed levity to balance the tone.

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#972934
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Last movie seen
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Ex Machina- 5/5

Beatiful science fiction. And it was real science fiction too. It explores humanity and juggles so many interesting ideas along the narrative. It also is a thriller. The unknown answers to the questions they pose adds to the tension since we don’t fully understand the A.I. The performances were great. They felt authentic and were very engaging. It makes you constantly question who’s on who’s side, what side your on, who’s ethically right in the situation etc. Ex Machina for me is easily one of the best movies of 2015.

P.S. (SPOILERS BELOW!)

The ending of the film broke my heart. It was a gutsy move by the filmmakers of this movie and though it made me sooooooo sad it was a brilliant ending. It illustrates the danger of A.I perfectly by showing the huge deception by the A.I. But by doing so it had passed the test and was truly human. By the end of the film, the caged in A.I had escaped but locked in the humans. Again though, the ending BROKE my heart. Caleb didn’t deserve any of the shit he got. Nathan actually was kinda right. At first I cheered for Ava cause I thought her and Caleb were escaping. But then once I saw Ava ditching Caleb I realized Nathan was right. So should I feel bad or did he deserve it? Ugh, Ex Machina man. Again, an overall brilliant film.

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#972929
Topic
If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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ray_afraid said:

My best friend passed away last night. Heart attack. He was only 45. I’m still in shock. He was truly a brother to me.
It feel silly to be posting this here, but I’ve already done the rounds of phone calls and emails telling everyone and I need an outlet of some kind I guess.
He never posted here, but looked to me to keep him informed about Despecialized and Revisited. He loved Harmy’s work and was beyond excited for ESB:R.
My world is very different now.

I’m so sorry for your loss and wish you well

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#972928
Topic
Today's Trolling.
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towne32 said:

Sure. Trolling is kind of used as a catch all term. There’s minor trolling where someone’s just kind of being obnoxious a wink and a nudge. In my opinion, stuff like that (Frink) works here because of the small size of the community, though it does mean he’ll rub off the wrong way on new people, and a few older members. I’m sure many disagree, but they can probably see the difference between that and what Wario does.

Though Frink does annoy the shit out of me sometimes he’s still overall a genuine user like your saying. I think that’s the true distinction. Did you create an account to genuinely extend your love of Star Wars or to just troll people on a forum?

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#972645
Topic
Star wars v.s Star trek
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haljordan28 said:

hERE IS A   BIT OF THE SCRIPT  titled   revised rough  draft revenge of the jedi  june 12 1981

13. INT. TATOOINE INN

[“In the rough draft Luke is asleep and struggling with thoughts of Vader and the dark side. Yoda and Ben are also present in the dream, and Luke berates Ben for not telling him that Vader is his father. Yoda explains that he’ll soon be joining Ben in the Netherworld, and therefore he’ll become stronger and will be better able to help Luke. Vader’s voice reappears, and Luke awakens.” -L. Bouzerau, explanation from Star Wars The Annotated Screenplays page 241.]

Luke snaps awake from a sound sleep, his head still ringing with Vader’s words. It takes a moment for him to focus on his surroundings. He is in a small rundown, tavern. Two vile, little dirty Jawas; ATETU and TWEETU, stare at him from across the room. They shake their cloak-covered heads and go back to cooking an odorous stew.

The howling wind outside blows the door open with a loud crash. Luke reaches for his pistol, the Jawas hide. Out of the dust cloud emerge two familiar shapes, SEE THREEPIO and ARTOO DETOO. Luke relaxes as the angry Jawas come out of hiding, scolding the robots for not closing the door. Atetu waddles to the door and strains against the wind to close it.

84. VADER’S PRIVATE CHAMBER – STAR DESTROYER

The door to the private chamber slides open, and the Dark Lord of the Sith storms into the room. His voice echoes through the chamber.

VADER
Jerjerrod!

JERJERROD
(V.O.)
It is not necessary to shout, my old friend.

VADER
What is the Emperor doing with my son…

JERJERROD
My Lord Vader, the Emperor does not have to answer to you… besides, I don’t believe he has your son. Where did you come by this piece of erroneous information?

VADER
He’s been seen at the palace…and that’s where I’m going!

JERJERROD
The Emperor would prefer you didn’t…you would go against his wishes. The Rebel attack is about to begin. You are truly fearless, my old friend.

Vader lifts the Grand Moff by the neck and begins to lift him off the ground with one hand; Jerjerrod gasps for air and struggles to free himself from the Dark Lord’s iron grip.

VADER
You are not my friend, bureaucrat. I will go to the palace, but you will not live to see it. I no longer wish to be annoyed by your simpering ways.

JERJERROD
The Emperor will destroy you for this.

Vader snaps the man’s neck, and he drops to the floor in a heap.

VADER
I think not…your importance has been greatly exaggerated.

Vader exits the room, and the door slams shut behind him.

85. EXT. SPACE – REBEL FLEET

BEN
Yoda will always be with you.

Luke looks up to see the shimmering image of BEN KENOBI.

LUKE
Obi-Wan! Why didn’t you tell me?

The ghost of Ben Kenobi approaches him through the swamp.

LUKE
You told me Vader betrayed
and murdered my father.

BEN
You father was seduced by the dark
side of the Force. He ceased to be
Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader.
When that happened, the good man
who was your father was destroyed.
So what I have told you was true…
from a certain point of view.

LUKE (turning away, derisive)
A certain point of view!

BEN
Luke, you’re going to find that many
of the truths we cling to depend greatly
on our own point of view.

Luke is unresponsive. Ben studies him in silence for a moment.

BEN
I don’t blame you for being angry.
If I was wrong in what I did, it
certainly wouldn’t have been for the first time.
You see, what happened to your
father was my fault.

Ben pauses sadly.

BEN
Anakin was a good friend.

Luke turns with interest at this. As Ben speaks, Luke settles on a stump, mesmerized. Artoo comes over to offer his comforting presence.

BEN
When I first knew him, your father
was already a great pilot. But I was
amazed how strongly the Force was with him.
I took it upon myself to train him as a Jedi.
I thought that I could instruct him just
as well as Yoda. I was wrong.
My pride has had terrible
consequences for the galaxy.

Luke is entranced.

LUKE
There’s still good in him.

BEN
I also thought he could be turned
back to the good side. It couldn’t be done.
He is more machine now than man.
Twisted and evil.

LUKE
I can’t do it, Ben.

BEN
You cannot escape
your destiny.

LUKE
I tried to stop him once.
I couldn’t do it.

BEN
Vader humbled you when first you
met him, Luke…but that experience was
part of your training. It taught you,
among other things, the value of
patience. Had you not been so impatient
to defeat Vader then, you could have
finished your training here with Yoda.
You would have been prepared.

LUKE
But I had to help my friends.

BEN (grinning at Luke’s indignation)
And did you help them?
It was they who had to save you.
You achieved little by rushing back
prematurely, I fear.

LUKE
(with sadness)
I found out Darth Vader
was my father.

BEN
To be a Jedi, Luke, you must confront
and then go beyond the dark side -
the side your father couldn’t get past.
Impatience is the easiest door - for you,
like your father. Only, your father was seduced
by what he found on the other side of
the door, and you have held firm.
You’re no longer so reckless now, Luke.
You are strong and patient. And now,
you must face Darth Vader again!

LUKE
I can’t kill my own father.

BEN
Then the Emperor has already won.
You were our only hope.

LUKE
Yoda spoke of another.

BEN
The other he spoke of
is your twin sister.

LUKE
But I have no sister.

BEN
Hmm. To protect you both from the Emperor,
you were hidden from your father when
you were born. The Emperor knew, as I did,
if Anakin were to have any offspring, they
would be a threat to him. That is the reason
why your sister remains safely anonymous.

LUKE
Leia! Leia’s my sister.

BEN
Your insight serves you well.
Bury your feelings deep down, Luke.
They do you credit. But they
could be made to serve the Emperor.

Luke looks into the distance, trying to comprehend all this.

BEN
(continuing his narrative)
When your father left, he didn’t know
your mother was pregnant. Your mother
and I knew he would find out eventually,
but we wanted to keep you both as safe
as possible, for as long as possible.
So I took you to live with my brother
Owen on Tatooine… and your mother took
Leia to live as the daughter of
Senator Organa, on Alderaan.

Luke turns, and settles near Ben to hear the tale.

BEN
(attempting to give solace with his words)
The Organa household was high-born
and politically quite powerful in that system.
Leia became a princess by virtue of lineage…
no one knew she’d been adopted, of course.
But it was a title without real power,
since Alderaan had long been a democracy.
Even so, the family continued to be politically
powerful, and Leia, following in her foster
father’s path, became a senator as well.
That’s not all she became, of course…
she became the leader of her cell in the
Alliance against the corrupt Empire.
And because she had diplomatic immunity,
she was a vital link for getting information to
the Rebel cause. That’s what she was doing
when her path crossed yours… for her foster
parents had always told her to contact
me on Tatooine, if her
troubles became desperate.

Luke is overwhelmed by the truth, and is suddenly protective of his sister.

LUKE
But you can’t let her get involved
now, Ben. Vader will destroy her.

BEN
She hasn’t been trained in the ways
of the Jedi the way you have, Luke…
but the Force is strong with her,
as it is with all of your family.
There is no avoiding the battle.
You must face and destroy Vader!

88. HAD ABBADON – THE TOMB’S PRISON

Luke lies unconscious on a small island in the middle of a hot lava lake. A hot wind blows across his face and wakes him. He looks around at his hostile surroundings and suddenly becomes aware of another person sitting behind him. He turns on the intruder with Jedi speed. The shrouded figure doesn’t move or even look up.

LUKE
Ben…

Slowly, the hooded figure looks up, revealing his face. It is Ben Kenobi in the flesh.

BEN
I could no longer stay in the netherworld.

LUKE
But Yoda said…

BEN
…that I would become one with the Force and choose not to return to the material world? That your anger prevented me from…

LUKE
But I’m not angry…not anymore…I understand why you didn’t tell me about my father. I do.

BEN
I know. And I am here to help you destroy the Emperor, and…your father.

LUKE
I can’t.

Suddenly Yoda appears beside Ben.

YODA
You can and you will…I in the netherworld, and Obi-Wan at your side. Help you we will.

96. INT. MAIN HALLWAY TO THRONE ROOM

Vader’s footsteps echo through the vast, long hallway. The Royal Guards that line the walls watch him with great fear. Finally he reaches the massive doors that open on to the throne room. The two guards on either side of the doors move to block the Dark Lord.

1ST GUARD
I’m sorry Lord Vader, the Emperor does not wish…

Both of the guards are stopped in their tracks as they drop their weapons and grab for their throats in a vain attempt to breathe. They drop gasping to the floor as the giant doors slide open and the Dark Lord enters the Emperor’s chamber.

97. INT. THRONE ROOM – HAD ABBADON

Vader storms into the throne room and marches right up to where the Emperor is sitting. The Emperor slowly raises his head to stare at the Dark Lord.

VADER
Where is he?

EMPEROR
Safe…There is no need for you to worry. I will take good care of him…

VADER
It is for me to train my son…you must…

The Emperor raises his hand, and Vader’s breathing suddenly stops. The Dark Lord struggles at his controls, attempting to regain his air supply. He chokes.

EMPEROR
You forget yourself…Lord Vader. I will tolerate no more discussion on the subject. The boy is mine to train. Your place is with the fleet.

Vader collapses on the floor and the Emperor lowers his hand. Vader starts breathing again and rises to a kneeling position.

VADER
Forgive me, master.

EMPEROR
The Rebels will soon begin their attack. You must be ready for them. For now that I have all of them in one place, they will be crushed once and for all.

VADER
Yes, my master.

EMPEROR
Now take your leave, for I have your son to attend to.

Vader rises and exits the throne room, and the giant door slides closed behind him.

12. INT. HAD ABBADON – TOMB’S DUNGEON

Luke stands with a start and begins to look around. Ben slowly stands also.

LUKE
Did you feel that?

BEN
Yes. It’s the Emperor. He’s moving this way…

LUKE
…and so is my father.

BEN
He is following the Emperor. Yoda!

YODA’S VOICE
I am between them and the Force…cloud their minds, I will.

BEN
Luke, you must take them on one at a time. Together, they will destroy you…

The Emperor enters the cavern and looks across to the boiling lava lake. He sees Ben and is surprised.

EMPEROR
So you are not dead after all, Obi-Wan. I thought I felt your presence in the netherworld. So, you have returned. But you have failed…the boy is mine, and will soon embrace the Dark Side.

YODA
It is you who have failed, my old friend.

The Emperor turns around to see the shimmering image of Yoda standing before him.

EMPEROR
You!

YODA
Evil one, this will be the last day of your existence.

EMPEROR
Your presence in the netherworld can do me no harm. And neither can this boy or this old man.

YODA
Your fear is strong…overestimate your abilities, you do.

Vader steps out of the shadows and stands next to the Emperor.

VADER
My Master, they must be destroyed. Now it is too late to turn the boy.

Luke looks at his father, then reaches out and Vader’s lasersword leaps off the Dark Lord’s belt and into the young Jedi’s hand. Luke ignites the lasersword as the Emperor pulls a sword out of his sleeve and tosses it to Vader.

EMPEROR
Destroy them.

Vader’s sword ignites and he starts to move toward his son. Luke backs away.

120. INT. HAD ABBADON – TOMB’S DUNGEON

Vader brings his lasersword down hard on his son, but Luke is able to block his father’s blow. A quick sword exchange, and Luke forces Vader back. Another exchange, and the Dark Lord recovers, pushing the young Jedi onto a small rock surrounded by the bubbling pool of lava. Ben and the Emperor watch from the far side of the cavern.

EMPEROR
He is every inch his father.

BEN
He is stronger than you imagine, and has many allies.

EMPEROR
Allies? If they are all as you, I have no concern. Once the boy has killed his father, I will have him destroy you…

BEN
Perhaps, but it will not save you. I have foreseen your death at the hands of Skywalker.

EMPEROR
But I have not, therefore it cannot be.

BEN
Unless you can no longer see…

Luke fights back with all of his strength and drives his father back across the tiny rocks. A crashing blow by Luke causes Vader to lose his balance and fall onto one of the small rock islands, his sword hand landing in the molten lava. His sword and part of his metal are melting away. Vader backs away from his son, expecting the death blow at any moment. But Luke hesitates as Ben and the Emperor watch.

EMPEROR
Finish it, boy! It is the power of the Dark Side that you feel…

Luke lowers his lasersword.

LUKE
I cannot. I will not turn to the Dark Side. I only fight in self-defense, not to do your Emperor’s bidding.

With that, Luke extinguishes the lasersword and tosses it to Ben.

LUKE
If he is to be destroyed, you must do it.

131. INT. HAD ABBADON – TOMB’S DUNGEON

Lord Vader struggles to stand as Ben prods the Emperor onto the same small island. Luke stands behind Ben and watches.

EMPEROR
You have become old and weak, Lord Vader. I will take care of this.

The Emperor turns his back on Vader and faces the old Jedi, raising his hands in the air, which causes lightning to strike at Ben.

LUKE
BEN, NO!

Luke leaps in front of his mentor, and raises his hand in defense. The bolts are deflected by an invisible shield. Wherever a bolt hits, the image of Yoda momentarily appears at the point of impact.

EMPEROR
Your Master in the netherworld cannot protect you for long. You will turn to me or die.

The lightning bolts become more intense, and Ben is knocked unconscious. Luke drops to his knees under the pressure.

EMPEROR
This is the power of the Dark Side that you deny. Your strength will never match it.

Luke struggles to remain conscious against the superior power of the Emperor.

LUKE
Yoda…

EMPEROR
Obi-Wan foresaw my destruction at your hands, young Skywalker, but it seems his vision was clouded…Perhaps there is still another Skywalker. Why can I not see, could the netherworld have influenced my perception? Another Skywalker…your father!

The Emperor turns around to see Lord Vader flying at him. The lightning bolts around Luke disappear as Vader hits the Emperor, knocking them both into the fiery lake of lava. The hideous screams of the Emperor are soon muted. Luke struggles to his feet and stares at the spot where his enemy and his father disappeared into the cauldron of molten rock.

Ben puts his hand on the young Jedi’s shoulder.

BEN
It is in Yoda’s hands now.

[“In the rough draft…Ben explains that…if Vader becomes one with the dark side of the Force, he will lose all identity. If he turns to the good side, he will pass through the Netherworld and” in the revised rough draft, Yoda “will rescue him before he becomes one with the Force.” -L. Bouzerau, explanation from Star Wars The Annotated Screenplays page 300.]

LUKE
He turned back to the good side.

BEN
Yes, he did.

Perhaps a link would have sufficed?

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Finally ordered Blu Rays of original series
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Density said:

The Blu-ray changes are mostly subtle compared to the DVD changes. Off the top of my head:

  • Obi-Wan has a new (and ridiculous) shout to scare off the sand people.
  • R2 hides from the sand people behind a new CGI rock. How he got behind it is anyone’s guess.
  • Han and Greedo shoot at or nearly exactly the same time now. (Easily the best change, though it also makes you wonder why Greedo still shoots at all because George’s initial “reasoning” that Han was only shooting in response to Greedo’s shot is out the window, cause if they shoot at the same time that means Han would have shot regardless of whether Greedo shot.)
  • The door to Jabba’s palace has been digitally expanded to appear more imposing, but also looks odd and distorted and doesn’t really fit with the interior shots.
  • Sebulba is now digitally inserted into Jabba’s palace to further piss off prequel haters.
  • The Ewoks now blink, which somehow looks much creepier than the still eyelids they had before.
  • Vader screams “NOOOOOO” twice while killing the Emperor in George’s biggest “fuck you” yet to his fans. This was obviously done solely out of spite due to the fact that people mocked the “NOOOOO” in ROTS, which is probably the same reason Greedo still shoots and Jar Jar is in the ending celebration.

Those are the ones you’re most likely to notice. I’m not sure if anything at all was changed in ESB from the DVD to Blu-ray, certainly not anything notable.

Man, you really reopened my pure hatred for the blu Rays. It pains me every time I remember that people every day watch such a beautiful silent scene ruined by one of the dumbest SE changes of them all (“Noooo”).