Luke/Kylo Fight Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIuAfGncMuo
Looks like he’s 2/3 way done with having the fight ready. After that they will get the costumes and get to the final filming. I’m pretty pumped!
I’m late to the party here… but again, regarding Canto Bight…
Does anyone else have a problem with the whole “Rose hates rich people” element? Frankly, I would like to take some of the “real world” politics out of that sequence. I get it, war profiteering is bad, but do we really need a conversation about it in Star Wars?
I’d rather cut out that sequence, and never have Rose mention it.
Agreed. It’s a must cut which is why getting rid of the father chase as well is necessary. It’s another waste of time dedicated to animal cruelty. Focusing the film is probably the biggest goal for any fanedit.
That could work too! Are you going to try this with your edit, darth?
Yep, the transition is seamless as well! Right now the hard part is removing the joke of Kylo hitting Hux and then the “right away sir”. If I cut after he hits Hux it sounds smooth but if I do it before that then it doesn’t work so I’m stuck there.
But Rey’s introduction was also an all-timer. The first third of that movie, really, is just great.
This. This. This. This.
Like seriously, the first third of TFA, especially Rey’s introduction, is just beautiful. Part of why I left the theater feeling like I really enjoyed it (an amazing first third, and an ok 2/3), but still feeling underwhelmed and I think it was because of how awesome that first third was.
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The most satisfying aspect to the trilogy for me is the energy of this new cast. Finn and Poe escaping the Star Destroyer was more triumphant than anything in the prequels.
This scene really holds the test of time. The amount of pure fun, excitement, and sense of adventure really is something that The Force Awakens nailed. So at the end of the day, however many issues I take with the story and Rey’s character in the second half of the movie, I’ll be damned if it doesn’t recapture the power of Star Wars.
The Last Jedi recaptured the power as well and had an even more compelling story and character development.
I really liked Kylo Ren in both movies too, but TFA Kylo and TLJ Kylo feel like they’re not even the same incarnation of the character. I do love him in both TFA and TLJ though.
Really? I’m interested to hear why. I feel like his overall arc between two movies is compelling and really well bridged. Everything that motivates him and drives him seems consistent throughout and he plays it as such. I’ll admit that him in the Last Jedi is so much better than him in TFA, but mainly cause of the richer material that the character had to work with in the middle installment of the trilogy.
Those are some very well thought out ideas RogueLeader. Here is my idea that I thought of:
Firstly, I like the pacing of moving from Finn getting out of his speeder to Kylo telling them to advance inwards. Losing all the stuff with Finn rushing to Rose and getting kissed keeps everything moving and at a nice dark tone. Now the issue with this is we still need to see Finn come back to the base. Here is my very simple solution that I honestly think would work.
You see Finn drag Rose into the base but cut away right before Finn says “She’s hurt pretty bad” and there’s a close up of who it is. Instead you see Finn rushing in with an injured solider, and him calling for a medic. You then can assume that Finn has now returned and brought with him an injured solider.
One nice thing about this thematically is that it shows not only that Finn has completed his arc by making the run on the cannon, but also that he still cares about saving what he loves. Now his arc in the Last Jedi feels like it was earned and resolved. Finn learns to value what truly is important and to save what he love. And if that means destroying the cannon then so be it. And if that works out, he’ll pick up an injured solider while he’s at it.
Farewell yhwx. Live the dream.
In both our opinions they do. But oh well, this argument never goes anywhere.
I know everyone doesn’t agree with me. That doesn’t make them right.
My whole point Frink is that there is no objectively “right” opinion on a movie. If there is one, then show me where the source of those opinions would be.
I’ll give you credit for trying to explain even though I disagree with you on so many things. With that said…
RotS is fifth because I never had to accept the PT like most of you here, and because of that I feel like I’m more open to appreciating them.
I have zero idea what this means.
I never had expectations. I was never left feeling very underwhelmed by those movies. They were always part of SW to me. They always gave me a very different feeling than the OT, a feeling I now know to be slightly worse, but just slightly. So, since RotS was always there for me, I think I’m more open to appreciate it than I am to appreciate TFA for example, since I saw TFA in theaters and had expectations and was left underwhelmed, etc.
Does this make sense?
It doesn’t make sense to me because the movies are all objectively terrible and it doesn’t matter if you had any expectations or not.
I don’t think they are objectively terrible at all. In terms of critics, the consensus tends to be that RotS > AotC > TPM. Apparently out of the 6 Lucas films, RotS was the 2nd best reviewed upon release. I don’t think that makes it objectively terrible.
Oh, you forgot that Frink is right and deems what is objectively poor art. Like how I can deem what is good music.
Stop being silly. They are extraordinarily poorly made films. If you don’t think so, I don’t know what to tell you. I can throw pans at a wall and call it music but that doesn’t make it true just because I say it’s music.
TPM is probably the best of the three because it’s the closest to an actual film.
Stop being silly. RoTS has an 79% critic rating on RT. Don’t act like everyone agrees with you (and to add, I mostly do myself).
how about…
- Revenge of the Sith
- The Last Jedi/Attack of the Clones
- The Force Awakens
How about…no, that’s silly.
What a productive comment.
It’s like you’ve never seen my posts before.
I wish I swooped in before you commented so I could predict exactly what you would say.
It’s like you want me to be someone other than me.
No. Just less of you.
Have you seen my post count?
You might as well ask the sun to stop shining.
I think you misunderstand. There’s an ratio between funny Frink and asshole Frink. There is a sweet spot and your not hitting it.
I’ll give you credit for trying to explain even though I disagree with you on so many things. With that said…
RotS is fifth because I never had to accept the PT like most of you here, and because of that I feel like I’m more open to appreciating them.
I have zero idea what this means.
I never had expectations. I was never left feeling very underwhelmed by those movies. They were always part of SW to me. They always gave me a very different feeling than the OT, a feeling I now know to be slightly worse, but just slightly. So, since RotS was always there for me, I think I’m more open to appreciate it than I am to appreciate TFA for example, since I saw TFA in theaters and had expectations and was left underwhelmed, etc.
Does this make sense?
It doesn’t make sense to me because the movies are all objectively terrible and it doesn’t matter if you had any expectations or not.
I don’t think they are objectively terrible at all. In terms of critics, the consensus tends to be that RotS > AotC > TPM. Apparently out of the 6 Lucas films, RotS was the 2nd best reviewed upon release. I don’t think that makes it objectively terrible.
Oh, you forgot that Frink is right and deems what is objectively poor art. Like how I can deem what is good music.
how about…
- Revenge of the Sith
- The Last Jedi/Attack of the Clones
- The Force Awakens
How about…no, that’s silly.
What a productive comment.
It’s like you’ve never seen my posts before.
I wish I swooped in before you commented so I could predict exactly what you would say.
It’s like you want me to be someone other than me.
No. Just less of you.
how about…
- Revenge of the Sith
- The Last Jedi/Attack of the Clones
- The Force Awakens
How about…no, that’s silly.
What a productive comment.
It’s like you’ve never seen my posts before.
I wish I swooped in before you commented so I could predict exactly what you would say.
oh, i love poe, tfa hux and kylo ren. finn is meh, the rest is pretty much bad imo.
Poe is awesome partly I think because of his enthusiasm. He is probably the most likable ST character IMO.
how about…
- Revenge of the Sith
- The Last Jedi/Attack of the Clones
- The Force Awakens
How about…no, that’s silly.
What a productive comment.
Most disappointing is the decision to go back to a ragtag rebels versus oppressive empire style of story. It would have been much more interesting for the remnants of the Empire to be the small guerilla group fighting the established New Republic.
Prequel Trilogy: Good Overall Story, Bad Characters
Original Trilogy: Good Overall Story, Good Characters
Sequel Trilogy: Bad Overall Story, Bad CharactersFTFM
Yeah, I expected for many to disagree 😉
I will admit that among characters I don’t like would be Rose, parts of Rey (TLJ helped her character IMO), Phasma (obviously), Hux in TFA, Snoke in TFA.
But Finn, Kylo Ren, Han Solo, Rey in TLJ, and Luke are highlights for me in the ST.
Most disappointing is the decision to go back to a ragtag rebels versus oppressive empire style of story. It would have been much more interesting for the remnants of the Empire to be the small guerilla group fighting the established New Republic.
Good point. This is actually the most disappointing aspect of the ST for myself.
You could kind of view the three trilogies in the following manner if you feel similar to how I do:
Prequel Trilogy: Good Overall Story, Bad Characters
Original Trilogy: Good Overall Story, Good Characters
Sequel Trilogy: Lackluster Overall Story, Good Characters
Just my two cents but obviously doesn’t apply if you like the ST story.
Beautiful update Dre. I love the increased saturation and the fixed blue tones. This will be a fine addition to my collection…I mean, fanedit.
I’d love some suggestions on the current transition I have between Hux saying “It’s only a matter of time” to Leia on the stretcher. Can the audience fill in the gaps or do we need more Resistance material? I’ve heard some say we need more of that material but I cannot find a solution.
I thought it would be interesting to discuss what we all feel is the most disappointing element in the sequel trilogy so far, as well as what we consider the most satisfactory thing that the ST has done.
The most satisfying element for me in the Sequel trilogy so far is Kylo Ren. He is hands down the most original and inspired thing that the ST has produced. The character is complex, unexpected (I thought we would get Vader 2.0), and so interesting. Not to mention the exceptional acting and gravitas given by Adam Driver. Nothing comes close to this character in the sequel trilogy for myself.
The most disappointing element of the ST for me is easily that we never got to see the big three reunite all together. The Luke and Leia scene at the end of TLJ helped a lot with this gaping hole in my heart however haha. Seeing all three together is something that was not necessary, but is just something I wanted to see in the movies and kinda feel bummed about not getting.
I’m curious to hear from you all what are the most disappointing and satisfying elements of the films.
I wanted to give some insight into the different versions I will be releasing for this edit when it is finished. I updated my title post as well. The versions are as follows:
I am rescoring two scenes in the movie and if you are not a fan of the replaced music, there will be a secondary audio track without the rescores.
The time passage edition is for people who want a time gap between the two movies and who watch DigiMod’s version of TFA ending (like myself).
The solution that I’m doing is to change the crawl and then put the Force Awakens ending into The Last Jedi. This of course goes in conjunction with the DigiMod ending for his Force Awakens edit.
I had a similar idea except I use an AT-AT firing on him since it doesn’t make sense why a TIE pilot would be shooting.
It’s good his edit is getting recognition. I really want to see his idea for the duel to come to fruition.