darthrush

Dek Rollins said:

In TPM, when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan used force-speed down the hallway to get away from the destroyers, I thought they had teleported behind the destroyers and were running back down the hall that the destroyers came from. When the destroyers turned to follow them down the hall, I thought they were turning around.

(I’m sure this was brought up by someone else back when this thread was in action, but I’m not going to check.)

I fail to comprehend what actually happens in that scene.

Density said:

I really have never understood the problem some have had with Leia and Luke being siblings. It’s not the greatest example of script writing in history, but it works and ties the plot together. It resolves the love triangle, explains why Leia was able to sense Luke with the force at the end of Empire and who the “other” Yoda was talking about was, gives Luke motivation to attack Vader (which is why any ROTJ fan edit would fall apart), allows for the existence of Kylo Ren (at least as Han and Leia’s son rather than Luke’s), etc. Even watching just the first movie, there’s nothing that contradicts it. Does it seem like kind of a crazy coincidence that they would happen to meet like that in such a large galaxy? Maybe (though not as much when you consider that they were connected via Obi-Wan), but the entire Star Wars plot is built on such coincidences. You have to suspend your disbelief a little and just allow “the force” to explain some of this to enjoy these movies. Star Wars is a fantasy with magic steeped in mythological storytelling tradition, remember, not some kind of hard sci-fi based on realism.

This is why I left them being brothers and sisters in my edit. Removing that entire plot point would practically break the movie no matter how much you hate it.

liamnotneeson said:

Jeebus said:

Thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei2H_F72OoA

I feel like Anakin does a lot of standing and awkwardly watching. Not sure if that was your intention, but I get the sense like Anakin has no idea what to do and is just following it

Agreed. Hal handles this scene best IMO

Holy shit if somebody implements this idea seamlessly I’m calling it as fanedit of the year.

And Dooku is more of an independent thinker with better end goals than Maul. If you look into his character, him not aligning himself with the sith all the way to the point of having a darth title makes sense.

ray_afraid said:

joefavs said:

Plinkett isn’t wrong and those reviews have more than their share of funny moments, but I’ve never been comfortable with the whole wife murdering angle.

If your interested, my edits, which remove all of that, are almost done.
Maybe I should start a thread for em? I dunno.

Be my guest.

TV’s Frink said:

“Where is Padme? Is she secret? Is she safe?”

Makes me cringe every time how they even made James earl jones sound so pettish and weak.

MalàStrana said:

Dek Rollins said:

darthrush said:

I think ROTS (especially fan edited) is easily on par or better than ROTJ or even TFA in some aspects.

ROTJ beats ROTS (plain or fan-edited). ROTJ fan-edited definitely beats ROTS (plain or fan-edited).

What ROTJ fan edit ? Real question: I’m very fond of ROTJ but I’m interested by an edit that could correct minor silliness. Even if to my view ROTS (as a fan edit) is a good and enjoyable movie, ROTJ will always rank higher (the fun Jabba overture, the moving Luke-Vader-Palpatine confrontation, some parts of the Endor subplot, and the action packed space battle: very good stuff).

My work print is rendered and I will eventually throw up a link for it.

I have 3 levels of Star Wars Glory when comparing the theatrical versions of the films:

Group #1
ESB
ANH

Group #2
ROTJ
TFA
ROTS

Group #3
TPM
AOTC

I consider TPM and AOTC pretty poor films but not “batman and robin” bad. I think ROTS (especially fan edited) is easily on par or better than ROTJ or even TFA in some aspects. And then IMO ANH and ESB are untouchable masterpieces that should be worshipped day in and night out.

The line “Is she all right” is a Hayden Christenen line done by James earl Jones and it sounds just so out of place and awful.

My favorite 35 mm of ESB and ROTJ (silver screen for ANH of course) would be the Grindhouse editions. They are real nice and I don’t think they are that much worse in quality to the silver screen. For ultimate vintage feels pick up puggo grande 16mm Star Wars and empire strikes back.

Scott109 said:

towne32 said:

Scott109 said:

Ignore most of my previous criticisms. This fan edit was brilliant. One of my only complaints is that you changed “ten thousand” star systems seceding from the Galactic Republic to “a thousand,” an unnecessary change which lessened the stakes involved in the war. I also cannot understand why you removed the title Darth Tyrannus. All Sith Lords have a personal name and a Sith name, so it would be illogical for Count Dooku to not have a Sith name as well.

I’m glad you’ve come around!

Some editors remove all of the ‘Darths’ from the PT because in their edits, what you say (All Sith Lords have a personal name and a Sith name) is not true. Hal keeps Darth Plagueis though, I think, so presumably the change in AoTC is simply due to Tyrannus sounding stupid. Either way, it doesn’t affect the canon by not having it mentioned during Dooku’s incredibly limited screen time in the film, if you want to consider that his Sith name.

First Jango Fett says that a man named Tyrannus hired him to be the genetic template of the clone army. Then towards the end of the film, Darth Sidious refers to Count Dooku as Darth Tyrannus, telling the close viewer that Count Dooku hired Jango Fett, implying that Count Dooku must have killed Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas and taken over the creation of the clone army. It is a very subtle revelation which is obscured in this fan edit.

I also miss the scene in which Yoda is instructing the younglings. I believe the scene is necessary to reconcile the fact that Qui-Gon was Obi-Wan’s master with the fact that Obi-Wan says Yoda instructed him in The Empire Strikes Back. The only way to reconcile the two is if Yoda taught Obi-Wan as a child.

However, these are very minor flaws compared to the great feat this fan edit achieved. After watching it, I believe that I agree with at least 90% of the changes made.

Iv gotta disagree with you on Hal’s changes. Taking it from tens of thousands to a thousand is a smart change. Tens of thousands of SYSTEMS is just ridilcous and way out of proportion. And taking the tyrannous title away elevates Dookus character by making him more independent and lessens pointless confusion of him having two names. I quite literally only have 3 changes in his entire trilogy that I mind.

1. Keeping Vaders “Nooo”. He has reasons why it’s just I personally feel it can be left out.
2. Padme living, I prefer the irony of her dying. Again just personal prefence.
3. Taking out “only a sith deals in absolutes”. Ewan delivers the line with such solemn acknowldment of the situation that it makes me love it.

But again, Hal’s edits IMO are the definitives because he set out to edit them in a way that they could legitamely be released in theaters editing quality wise. Thanks again for saving the prequels!

Jeebus said:

darthrush said:

Once it’s legal for us to post clips for TFA fanedit ideas I will put up two maybe that are gonna be Hans death with added music from ROTS. There is a last stretch of music in “Anakins Dark Deeds” that I could use which I find works best or the immolation scene music which is good too.

This?

https://youtu.be/xxjjtboGvOw?t=3m17s

Yah but starting more at 2:30. Use those powerful set of chords as they’re talking, I just don’t know when to fade it out.

Mad Mick said:

My controversial list:

1. Revenge of the Sith

The way it neatly ties up the whole saga with a little bow just slightly edges it into first place. The final confrontation between Anakin and Obi-Wan is what the whole prequel trilogy has been leading to, and George Lucas did not disappoint, especially when it is finished and Obi-Wan is on the verge of tears. Just a really good, underrated movie. A-

2. The Empire Strikes Back

What more is there to say that hasn’t been said already? The pacing is great, the direction is great, the acting is great. A couple of bumps along the way, but as a whole, this movie is really great. A-

3. Attack of the Clones

Yes, Attack of the Clones, the really bad one, at number three. That’s because of the whole Kamino sideplot, which really just hearkens back to old mystery and detective novels. The whole Kamino plot is just facinating and always keeps my attention. It also helps that it puts my favourite Star Wars character in the spotlight, Obi-Wan. Sure, the romance is very weak and awkward, as are the characters of Anakin and Padme, but the rest of the film more than makes up for this. B+

4. Return of the Jedi

This movie is pretty good all around, but the laziness of the plot really doesn’t help. A second Death Star, really? The tone of the movie is also all over the place, cutting from dark moments back to lighthearted silly moments with the Ewoks. A good movie, with some major flaws. B

5. The Force Awakens

This movie is also a good film, with its major problem being a lack of originality. The idea of Starkiller Base is just really stale, and when it blows up, I didn’t feel anything. The character of Poe is who we’re supposed to root for during those scenes, but he was barely even in the film, so I couldn’t form a connection to him. The characters of Rey and Finn fare much better, and Kylo Ren is a really interesting character, who I can’t wait to see in later episodes. B

6. A New Hope

I am in the minority here, but I don’t think this movie is all that great. It has some really great moments, sure, but the overall story is very generic and boring. Darth Vader in this film is a generic bad guy, as is Tarkin, and neither of which ever interact with the protagonist, Luke. Ben Kenobi is just made to spout off exposition about the force the whole time, and when he dies, I don’t care. The lightsaber fight between him and Darth is also laughably bad, as not only is it visually boring, but I don’t care about either of the characters. It’s good, but very overrated. B-

7. The Phantom Menace

This film is not only bad, but is extremely boring as well. All of the characters are boring, and my favourite, Obi-Wan gets nothing to do. Both Anakin and Jar Jar annoy me to hell, and they are the best characters in the movie. The story is also bogged down in politics and trade debates, which is not what a Star Wars film should be. C

I would have to disagree with your list in many ways including A New Hope ranked the second worst. What a travesty. But everyone has their opinions despite how rare they be.

Once it’s legal for us to post clips for TFA fanedit ideas I will put up two maybe that are gonna be Hans death with added music from ROTS. There is a last stretch of music in “Anakins Dark Deeds” that I could use which I find works best or the immolation scene music which is good too.

Jeebus said:

darthrush said:

Jeebus said:

I’ve been working on the Vader ‘NOOOOOO’ scene, what do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDzbeeTo2EY

Tbh the perfect way this was handled was by L8wtr. There are many aspects of his edit (mainly the ending) that I really enjoy, especially how he handles the noooo. You get the awesome shot of Vader rising up with powerful music then sidious asks him “can you hear me”, Vader answers “yes master” fade to black and we go to funeral continuing with memorable imagery accompanied by powerful music till end credits. I prefer Hal’s edit though all the way up until Anakin and obi wan start fighting. Then I switch to L8wtrs to include Yoda/Sidious fight which is trimmed up heavily to reduce silliness and preserve the epic vibe along with the improved ending. Ur take on how other editors like L8wtr have handled this scene?

I prefer seeing Vader’s reaction to Padme dying. One way I’ve seen it done is right when Palpatine smiles, it fades to the next scene, cutting out right before the ‘NOOOO’. This was just a test for me to see if I can make the ‘NOOOO’ tolerable.

I think not seeing him react solidified his turn and made you see that he had now completely put the name Anakin behind him and all people who he connected with the name Anakin also. When I see Vader fully suited up I prefer him being full Vader.

Jeebus said:

I’ve been working on the Vader ‘NOOOOOO’ scene, what do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDzbeeTo2EY

Tbh the perfect way this was handled was by L8wtr. There are many aspects of his edit (mainly the ending) that I really enjoy, especially how he handles the noooo. You get the awesome shot of Vader rising up with powerful music then sidious asks him “can you hear me”, Vader answers “yes master” fade to black and we go to funeral continuing with memorable imagery accompanied by powerful music till end credits. I prefer Hal’s edit though all the way up until Anakin and obi wan start fighting. Then I switch to L8wtrs to include Yoda/Sidious fight which is trimmed up heavily to reduce silliness and preserve the epic vibe along with the improved ending. Ur take on how other editors like L8wtr have handled this scene?

Jeebus said:

I’ve been working on the Vader ‘NOOOOOO’ scene, what do you guys think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDzbeeTo2EY

Look below for my feedback. Double Post. I apologize

That_OT_Ruler said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

Obviously this would be quite a heavy cut, just to make a different type of film, not because I think it needs improving.

Damn, and people complained about my edits. These are some huge heavy cuts that’ll be very hard to do.

Agreed but he did make it clear that it won’t be used in a future trilogy viewing obviously so I don’t have much of a problem with it since it’s more of a interesting expirmental edit that might be a fun watch.

MalàStrana said:

It’s so hard to say: ANH is funnier, ESB is deeper, both are epic. 10/10 for each. I tend to rank ESB higher than ANH but I think they in fact share the same gold medal.

edit:

So, I would change my list (may still change since I’m running a marathon while waiting TFA to be officially released on blu ray):

1. ESB & ANH
2. ROTJ
3. Clone Wars, Volume 1&2 (Tartakovsky)
4. ROTS (Hal9000’s)
5. TFA
6. TPM (Hal9000’s)
7. AOTC (Hal9000’s)
8. ROTS (theatrical)
9. The Clone Wars (my own best of 35 episodes, ending with the final 4-part Ahsoka-centric arc)
10. Rebels (my own best of, working progress since the series still airing)
11. TPM (theatrical)
12. AOTC (theatrical)

It’s crazy how similar your views are to mine especially with the comparison of Hal9000’s edits to the theatricals. I would have just put ROTJ tied with ROTS (Hal9000)

Smithers said:

I don’t mind the idea of a feedback thread, it’s a place for people to be creative and brainstorm on their fanedits

Agreed. I do find the voiceovers do take away a bit from the scene but great thread idea.

TV’s Frink said:

darthrush said:

U…ur…

Ugh.

Sorry

what main edits would u be making?

Lord Haseo. U should think about releasing ur edit publicly. I find I agree with you about many things concerning TFA.

Lord Haseo said:

Ok…well let’s hope that someone bitches about this to the point in which they remove it.

Agreed. Might as well start a petition…