But that fight will be between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and therefore we know that Vader did not "betray and murder" Luke's father, as Obi-Wan tells him later. So tim's right, the whole fight would have to be removed.
timdiggerm said:
Thank you. Someone had to do it.
I'd like to know why people (including Ady, at some point in time) think it's a good idea (or even possible) to give Obi a second apprentice in the PT. If Ani's his only apprentice, you can still make Ani=Vader a surprise. So... why?
I brought this exact point up in the PT Radical Redux thread, and Poet answered correctly: because a pupil of his betrayed and murdered Anakin. I think you said that it was okay to know that Ben was lying, but not know the extent. To me, part of preserving the surprise would require believing that Ben was perfectly honest in every way. Frankly, I think it'd be best that Obi-Wan had several apprentices in order to make us scratch our heads and wonder which one was the actual killer. I know he plans on reworking quite a bit, but I don't see how it can be done as completely as he wants without tossing out nearly every scene.
But in addition to that, I will agree with you that stylistically it's a very different book. My understanding is that he first wrote the short story version of Ender's Game, then years later had the idea for Speaker for the Dead. He realized that Ender could be the one to carry the torch, so he rewrote Ender's Game as a full-length novel in order to set it up for its very different sequel. Both won Hugo and Nebula Awards in consecutive years, which also interests me. One is very internal to Ender and quite action-oriented, the other more character-driven and tied to complex moral dilemmas. Ender is a very different person after years of trying to repent for his transgressions, however inadvertent they were. I really did enjoy Speaker, though it is such a departure from the first.
As for other series, I haven't read anything else, though Card is quite the prolific writer. His Earthfall series looks really interesting to me...it's supposed to be a science-fiction retelling of the Book of Mormon. Sounds fascinating to me, and I hear it had some good reviews. I'll get around to it eventually.
I think no one responded to this yet because everyone was crushed to hear it. How dare you have a personal life!? Years and years of waiting for the best edits...Good luck in school, and we hope to hear more from you soon.
WHAT THE HECK, VLAD?!?!? WHY DIDN"T YOU TELL ME??? WE COULD HAVE HAD HOURS OF DISCUSSION!!!! SURELY BY NOW YOU KNEW I WAS A MEMBER TOO!!!
Okay, I'm calm. Good luck! I hear there are lots of...potatoes...there in Idaho (see if you can catch that reference). God be with you till we meet again :)
Ooh, exciting! He's had some great audio ideas.
Well bummer, but I'll keep looking forward to it. Congrats on the new house and baby :)
"Expecto Patronum!"
"Oh du schone, oh du schone, oh du schone schnitzelbank!"
"I see your schwartz is as big as mine."
(That last one will really tickle your friend)
Here here. Good idea, and I think reordering things really could fix a lot of the problems. I like what Seciors is doing with Ep II. He's taking the end scene with Dooku and Sidious and putting at the beginning, and trying to remove all pretense that we don't know that Darth Sidious is actually Senator Palpatine. Brilliant, in my mind.
I've been spending less time on this series lately, as it is a bit slower and also I've just had less time for it. I finished Xenocide a few weeks ago, the third book in the Ender Quartet. Ender is now in his late 50s or early 60s. Several moral dilemmas arise and the people on the planet he occupies face several terrible decisions. Virtually any action or inaction will lead to the extinction of one sentient species or another. What to do?
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I thought several aspects of the book were interesting. The attempt at creating so many dilemmas led to an interesting plot, where I really did wonder what would happen (at least as far as I did not remember from so many years back). The Chinese world of Path was well done, I felt, and I liked the Chinese characters especially.
But there were several disappointments. At the end of the last book, Ender marries a broken woman and becomes the stepfather to several of her children. Ender, as a Speaker for the Dead, has the ability to heal the hearts of thousands. The prospects for the broken family he takes under his wing look wonderful. Now, early on this book, the children now grown are still a contentious and irrational bunch. Two in particular are complete idiots: one is a power hungry bigot; one is the sort of Green Party member that would allow humanity to die in order to save paramecia. And Ender, who has now been married for twenty something years now to the woman he emotionally healed in the last book, a woman who had been so hard-hearted that only Ender could pierce her walls, supposedly has had a wonderful time the past twenty something years. But now in this book, she goes back to being a complete bruja. What I'm saying is that we as the readers never get to know the good woman, the good marriage, or anything like that. All we ever get to see is contention, though the bulk of their relationship has supposedly been wonderful.
I'm wishing that Card would write another interquel as he did with Ender in Exile. This time I want it to take place between Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide. Get to know the characters a bit better. Only problem is, within the framework we already have, I'm not sure what sort of conflict could keep a reader's attention in that timeframe.
Another problem was the discovery of the fascinating Jane character. She could have made a million decisions to keep herself hidden, but she tipped her hand, and her efforts did not even prevent the evil that she had hoped. She made the Lusitania fleet disappear, but all the primary characters knew they were still there, just cut off, and that they would still destroy Lusitania. She could have simply offered false orders and continually devoted her extensive attention to preserving the falsehood by altering all communication. She could have even transmitted a message about fleetwide rebellion, then cut off communication, meanwhile steering the fleet elsewhere or shutting down their weaponry. Given her extensive abilities, I don't believe any excuse OSC or anyone else comes up with for why she did what she did. She really blew it, in spite of her advanced logical processing abilities.
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Anyway, when I first read Xenocide, I enjoyed it as my second favorite of the original four Ender books. This time I didn't enjoy it nearly as much. Better in theory than in execution. Nevertheless, I did like it enough that I wouldn't denounce it. It's just weaker than I'd remembered and hoped.
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Moovee:
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New question:
Who's gonna drive you home....tonight?
(doo doo do dee, do do doo)
Hark! Methinks the problem lieth not in an 11 year-old keyboard, but rather resulteth from the keystrokes of an 11 year-old lad.
I gotta be honest, this really is a fantastic thread, worthy of the Frink Archives.
lol
I'm probably too late to help, but this is how you say "thank you" in Klingon:
tlho' SoH
And here it is in a few of the Elvish tongues:
antanyel
le hannon
diola lle
And in the Russian inhabited planet of Moscva, they say:
spaseebah
Hope this helps ;)
I know, I've read the novel. You should check out the ROTJ Collaborative thread in my signature. The purpose of my crappy video was to show a different possible ending that would hopefully increase the tension and downplay the Ewoks' efforts. Yes, my reorganization was intentional. If you read my script (also in the signature), you'll see that I've even further broadened the idea, hoping for Rebel ships attacking the Death Star (at least I'm pretty sure I added that specifically--if not, I should).
I gotta be honest, Mr Titus is really getting a few chuckles out of me lately, and frievous always delivers. I love this place, especially for its forgiving nature when I'm feeling particularly sarcastic.
I know I do...just to see how it goes. I'm just as excited about this project as I am about Harmy's.
http://www.examiner.com/article/the-hobbit-movie-news-details-on-second-film-third-sequel-gets-release-date
The second Hobbit movie will no longer be called There and Back Again. It will now be called The Desolation of Smaug, with the third film (still shaking my head) will assume the former name. However, my hopes are a bit higher, as the report is that Jackson will be utilizing unpublished Tolkein notes to broaden the story. I understand the need for artistic licenses, and the LOTR trilogy did just that, a certain amount of faithfulness must be held to, especially when dealing with a single book being expanded into three films, while the LOTR trilogy had to be condensed so drastically. But utilizing Tolkein's unpublished vision is something I can condone.
What I wish (and I don't know how this would be done, but it certainly would be interesting) is that somehow Bilbo's "false" version of Riddles in the Dark could make its way into the film along with the true. Perhaps his fib to the dwarves could be shown in flashback, but with the alternate tale.
Comparison of the original and revised chapter expanding Gollum's character.
I hope you're still working on this. This is my favorite Halloween movie, largely due to its nostalgic value: it frightened me as a child, and now I see just how silly and hilarious it is. No other movie compares for me at this time of year, and yes, I mean this time of year because today I went outside and realized Autumn is approaching. I hope you can get this done in time (if you're even still working on it), but if not, just know that I'm still interested and could wait another year if I have to ;)
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Check out this Star Wars crawl creator.
Believe me, I don't like bloody movies either. If something is stylistic, I guess I don't mind, but if it is graphic, that's where it bugs me. And not that I don't find life sacred, but the sacredness of sex is cheapened at every turn IMO. Those bad guys deserved to die. But sex ought to be held in greater sanctity.
No offense taken :)
Hey, maybe we should start a thread on the topic! ;)
George Lucas has stated that he will reboot the original Star Wars trilogy in order to "get it more in line with my original vision, more like what I showed audiences with my Prequel Trilogy." Upon hearing this news, estimates from 500,000 to millions have hurled themselves to their deaths in various locations, from the Golden Gate bridge in the west to the Sears Tower in the east. The Federal Bureau of Investigation is considering pressing charges against Lucas for crimes against humanity, but most in the federal government appear hesitant. "Do you really think that the Federal Reserve could pay for enough attorneys to match the clone army of lawyers Lucas can assemble? The man owns, like, 68% of the earth!" stated an unnamed source in the Attorney General's office. When Lucas first heard the suggestion, President Barack Obama personally called him to smooth things over ahead of the DNC so as not to harm his reelection campaign. Lucas has stated that he may withhold his campaign contributions from the Obama compaign, but has not stated whether he will unleash the political power of the Illuminati or withhold it. This dramatic turn of events mere months before the election could drastically shake things up. When asked about the deaths attributed to his "deliberate creative decisions," Lucas responded, "Heck, more people died in the Clone Wars than that!"
Source: http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/How-would-a-Star-Wars-reboot-do/post/593685/#TopicPost593685