darth_ender

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

darth_ender said:

Yes, nothing shows the superior intellect of atheists than confusing correlation for causality.  Too bad I see it everywhere on the Net.

You seem to have completely misunderstood my posts.  Nowhere in my responses to PostPraetorian did I ever claim atheists enjoy any such superiority, nor did I ever claim atheists have any moral high ground.  He(she?) was the one who first offered a logical argument that one could reasonably expect a Christian to be more likely to behave with a moral compass, and be less likely to commit petty crime, because of various specific facets of a Christian upbringing. He is the one still sticking to this viewpoint. When I pointed out that statistics did not support his claim, he asked me to offer any argument as to what forces might forge an atheist's moral compass, or prevent an atheist to commit a petty crime.  I thought my language was clear that one could construct such an argument - not that such an argument was true!  In fact, I pointedly stated that neither of our arguments would constitute anything but speculation.

He asked for an argument, I provided one.  Just like the one you provided regarding blacks.  Just because I provided it doesn't mean I subscribe to it any more than you subscribe to the one you offered -- he seemed to think that such an argument couldn't exist.  To use your tense, I have observed that many Christians believe that there can be no source of a moral code without religion.  That's just bogus.

 Forgive me.  In my limited time I simply scanned the conversation rather than truly reading it, and I jumped to conclusions.  I apologize.

N*i9

Nope, you did nothing wrong.  It's a case of the "old eyes" I warned you about.  I meant j8.

It's called typing one handed with an infant in the other, you schmucks!

;)

Does that help?  Come on, you know me. :)

I was hopimg to say happy Thanksgiving everyone, but I don't want to offend Frink.  You people don't celebrate that holiday, right?

TV's Frink said:

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (EE) (2014)

I know a lot of people have a lot of problems with this movie but I'm an ardent defender of it. I presume it helps that I never read the Tolkien books until after seeing the LOTR movies so I have no devotion to the books. I also forgive PJ his occasional missteps give how incredible the movies are overall. This was the first time watching the movie since seeing it in the theaters two years ago, so I wasn't 100% sure of what was new for the EE, but in general I thought it all worked just fine as a whole.

7.5 riddles in the dark out of 8

 In spite of his racism against Hasidic Jews, I agree with Frink here.  The Hobbit movies are fun, and they are not rehashes of the LOTR films.  They have a different tone, and I really enjoy them for what they are, in spite of any shortcomings.  I haven't seen the EE, but I look forward to when I finally do.

I actually typed the above post hours ago, but Internet troubles prevented it from going through.  I want to make this separate post as an additional statement.

While atheists may often tout their morality as superior to that of religious persons, they tend to forget that their morals are in fact direct descendants of Judeo-Christian values.  Your values such as not killing, not stealing, not cheating on one's significant other, all are direct imports or evolutions of what religious people have taught for millennia.  If our history were different and we were descended from, say, the Roman Empire (pre-Christianization, I mean) and religion, don't you think your values which, as you pointed out are self-defined, would be quite different, perhaps with some sort of enjoyment derived from watching slaves fight to the death.  Even atheists would have a moral code defined by their predecessors, much different from our actual moral code.  There is much to thank religion for, even if one doesn't subscribe to one, and it seems an injustice to me to define one's morals as superior to those who shaped 90% of his.

Gk7-j6

The difficult thing in a three player game isn't necessarily playing one's pieces against his opponents best, but playing your opponents against each other best.

I'm late to the discussion and haven't read all that's taken place, but let me again point out Puggo how foolish your argument is, and yet how prevalent such thought processes are among so many atheists who are free of the burden of religious thought.

Black people are more likely to commit crime in the US than white.  Black violence, black homicides, black theft, black drug use and dealing, black imprisonment.  Blacks are far more likely to have teenage pregnancy, pregnancy out of wedlock, abortions (and even if you argue for their legality, most who support them still believe in keeping them "rare, safe, and legal"), black rapes.  Oh, and blacks are more likely to consider themselves religious than whites as well, and we know that's really saying something about them.

So without further evidence, formulating my own theory as a white man, I say that I am not bound by the inferior mentality that blacks have, nor their inferior culture, nor their poor work ethic, nor their lack of responsibility.

Now if I were to make such a claim in earnestness, I have no doubt that I would cause you and every other reader of this thread great offense.  And why?  Because clearly I am not taking into account a number of contributing factors, and instead am jumping to conclusions of causality without understanding a complex situation.  Blacks and whites are equally capable, and there are many black people who have demonstrated that they are superior to each of us in every facet I've just mentioned as a detriment to that race.  But there are many who have been hampered in education, economics, and maltreatment by others, who have instead become less productive members of society.  And because there are more blacks than whites in such circumstances, they have found themselves more numerous.

The same applies for religious and atheist (and everything in between).  There are complicating factors that you are not taking into account, and what Post Praetorian (who currently is not a believer) was doing was noting some of those factors.  For you to insinuate that it is as simple as a book telling us mindless drones what to do is as insulting as saying that blacks are inferior human beings.  Forget not that the most atrocious crimes against humanity were committed by an atheist government and majority of people in the USSR, crimes worse than those of the Third Reich.  Perhaps if they had a book telling them how to treat their fellow human beings, they may have been more humane.

Yes, nothing shows the superior intellect of atheists than confusing correlation for causality.  Too bad I see it everywhere on the Net.

Mwahahaha!

Pi7xh7

'Preciate it.  I'll keep y'all posted. :)

Interesting combo there.  I wonder if it's an attempt to ensure I don't attain a piece advantage, since if I have to beat a retreat, Ric would get a knight out of the process.  I don't like it, and I'm not going to buy it.

Rxf2

Thanks :)

I hate my job. I currently work at a hospital as an RN, and though I was excited to take a step up in the career ladder, I hate working nights and I hate the way the hospital is run. It was recently bought out by a for profit corporation, and it has since treated its employees like poop. There is more, but this is the good news thread. I just got off the phone after a phone interview. As many of you know, my previous career was in mental health. A new agency will be opening up in town and they are looking for psych RNs. The interview went very well and I was  told that, "We don't say this to all our phone interviewees but I'm really interested in an in-person interview. I'm not just saying that." So perhaps a new, happier job looms around the corner. Wish me luck while I endure my current job, and I hope this new opportunity, if I get it, is actually more rewarding.

Rxf6

I'm a little nervous in such close quarters to even reach out that far as well.  It seems you could easily coordinate to trap a powerful piece if too venturous.

That's something I like about this game over the previous: our armies collide a lot sooner.

Pi6-h6

I miss when I had the time to chat more here.  I seldom have time to post more than a move, and when I do have time to write something, it's when I'm at work and away from my computer :(

K(ing)-k9

Oh!  Alright then.

Leonardo said:

darth_ender said:

A buscar el oro de Cortez.

 WHAT... is so special about Special K?

 Fue bendicido por la mama de Frink mientras desnuda.

Thanks for the clarification.

Nk9-h7

Post meaning following and Praetorian being a guard to the Roman emperors, does "I was once...but now I'm not..." refer to your lost faith and defense of the Catholic faith?

Pi9-h9