darth_ender

@dclarkeg, ideally there will be teachings here as well, as that is any Christian's prerogative when posting here.  However, I love the art you've shared.  The last picture was commissioned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, BTW, by the artist Harry Anderson, who was a Seventh Day Adventist but did a number of paintings for my church.

The first is also LDS, by Greg Olson, an LDS painter.  So good choice of pictures.

Possessed said:

I assure you, if you want to post more pictures that re significant to you I will not mock them.  However, I can't promise to keep silent my feelings on religion.  This is the thread for discussing religion, not the 'christians only' thread where you guys conduct an e-worship service and nobody with a different opinion is allowed to have a voice.  I respect your right to worship God and voice your thoughts, however, this is the thread for religious discussion and I have a right to my opinion as well.

I do apologize for the disrespectful picture I posted though.

 I would always welcome open comments about religion.  I love to debate its value, as long as the opponent remains respectful.  Feel free to share your thoughts any time.

How did I never open this thread before???  Great stuff.  Hoping this will see the light of day soon.  I have been tinkering with some fan editing ideas, finally trying to get my feet wet a bit, and this would be extremely helpful.  Any ETA at this point?

Why does Warbler need to defend a position.  He just wants to celebrate his religion.  Why is there any need to try to belittle him?

Possessed and Leonardo, I really would not like either of you to go.  Possessed, though I didn't appreciate your picture, I still like you, and the simple fact that you removed the picture and acknowledged that you may have hurt a couple of our members shows that you deserve to continue here.  Please don't leave.  And Leonardo, we all are human and make mistakes.  You are not the bad person you portray yourself to be.

In person I offended a coworker last night with a joke.  It can happen in real life too, but I hope we stay friends.  Same over the Net with you two.

In fact, I find it sad that two people I enjoy feel guilty for what they say and want to leave, and two people I'd rather see leave would never even consider that they might be obnoxious little brats with nothing of value to add to any conversation.  Yes, I speak of imperialscum and Darth Id.

The Firefox add-on works great!  I'll try to get them all downloaded for you all soon.  Thanks again for the suggestion!

No worries.  Thanks,man :)

I think I could sign that petition, Frink.

timdiggerm said:

darth_ender said:

I don't think he enjoyed personally tormenting you.  ABC/xYz was mean specifically to be mean to you.  Bingowings was just generally insulting.  Honestly, I think he genuinely has hard feelings towards me, and just disagreed with you on just about everything.

 I still don't understand why anyone cares that someone disagrees with or has "hard feelings" towards them.

 Did I ever say that I care, or that I don't want him back, or that I wouldn't make the best of it if he returned?  Did I say I wouldn't try to work on our problematic discourse, though I felt the effort was one-sided?  I think I said I would continue to try to be the bigger person.  That means I would apologize when not receiving apologies, trying to remain civil when he turned the conversation ugly.  It's not him personally I did not enjoy, it's how he engaged in debate.  It became disrespectful and showed great ignorance.  He either deliberately or ignorantly avoided certain topics and repeatedly attacked me in positions I didn't even hold.  It took away the fun from our conversations.  And through it all, I continued to try to make the best of it, constantly trying to assure him that I wanted to be his friend.  He is still welcome to return if he ever wants.  But either he will have to choose to improve his debate strategies so they will make more sense and less offense, or else I will have to choose to avoid engaging him in debate altogether.

Danfun128 said:

darth_ender said:

Dclarkg on the other hand is deliberately being insulting, though not nearly as bad in my mind.

Agreed. That image may be on the offensive side, but not enough to use ublock on it, unlike a certain other image that thankfully has been removed by its poster.

 Unfortunately your quote of Possessed picture has resulted in it being kept, (unless I block it of course).  Since I don't believe you like it either, would you please remove it from your quote?  Thanks.

Thanks guys.  I'll give it a shot.  If no one beats me to it, I'll put it up at our favorite internal organ.

I believe you have misunderstood.  I hope you will continue to post those beautiful pictures.  I love Jesus Christ, and I'm happy to see him in such lovely artwork.

I don't think he enjoyed personally tormenting you.  ABC/xYz was mean specifically to be mean to you.  Bingowings was just generally insulting.  Honestly, I think he genuinely has hard feelings towards me, and just disagreed with you on just about everything.

Oh good.  The non-theists always here to rain on others' parades.  What would we do without such gestures of goodwill?  Nothing like desecrating the most sacred aspects of Christianity because it's all make believe anyway.

Warbler, Post Praetorian, while not a believer, is not in any way condoning such behavior.  Dclarkg on the other hand is deliberately being insulting, though not nearly as bad in my mind.

Possessed, I truly don't appreciate that picture.  At least post it in a thread devoted to trashing religion than one devoted to promoting discourse.

I think you are exactly right, bkev.  It is because he wishes to cause Warbler no more offense that he will not return to Off Topic.

Thanks.  I admit I am only mild to moderately technically savvy, and probably imbalanced in many ways.  I appreciate the ideas, and I'll try them out.  Thanks again :)

Perhaps in a cordial thread I shouldn't have brought up my issues with him.  But I reiterate again, he is welcome back whenever he wants.  I never meant to drive him away, and I too love his sense of humor.  There are several things he has done that I found particularly rude to me specifically, not the least of which was not only a lack of apology in any particular disagreement, but a flat out refusal to do so, saying he only apologizes when he believes he did something wrong.  In other words, in every disagreement, while I would do my best to straighten things out and smooth things over, I was always 100% to blame in his mind.  I miss the nice side of Bingowings, but all of him, rude and self-righteous or peacemaker and humorist, is welcome to return whenever he wants.  I never sent him away and was surprised at such a dramatic move.  I'll continue to try to make things work if he ever decides to return.

Thank goodness for those pro-choice laws that protect the mothers' rights!  I'm sure the mother whose baby was stolen directly from her womb is grateful for the justice she is receiving!

http://news.yahoo.com/video/no-murder-charge-woman-cut-215406203.html

I don't even mind bizarre conspiracy theories, as long as the debate doesn't devolve to the depths he tried to take it, with insulting my religion and trying to paint me as some homosexual-hating bigot.  It makes for poor debate and harsh feelings.

How would one download the dialogue from here?

http://www.starwars.com/games-apps/star-wars-soundboard

There are lines without background sound effects or soundtrack, so it could be useful for fan edits.

Another thought I've had is that some parts of the film can be recreated without soundtrack.  Unfortunately, your options are limited, as only a few lines are provided, but here you will find the official Star Wars soundboard, which has dialogue without music or effects.

http://www.starwars.com/games-apps/star-wars-soundboard

I wish there were more lines present, and I'm not even sure how to download the files, but if you know how, it can open up a few possibilities for you.

Are you considering completing the trilogy, or was ANH all you planned on?

Warbler said:

YES!  1776 IS FINALLY COMING OUT ON BLURAY!

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/1776-Blu-ray/60288/

I can't wait until July 4th : )

 Sit down, John!

I will not sign this.  However, I don't mind if he comes back.  I liked him for a long time.  But I could not carry on many conversations with him.  He cannot carry on debate without resorting to low tactics, and obviously carries a low opinion of me because of my religion.  I also told him not to let a disagreement keep him away, but apparently if I won't put up with such nonsense and TV's Frink says his views are too extreme for rational thought, then it is too much to carry on.  So he took his ball and left.  I never said I didn't want him here, nor that he couldn't come back.  But I've already documented why he cannot argue with dignity.

TheBoost said:

SilverWook said:

This app would be more fun if you could at least replace the dirty words with suitable replacements, like kumquat, but it would probably censor that as well. ;)

 I read an example online. The real book read:

"If they don't think you're a person before sex, they won't think you're one after."

and CleanReader made it:

"If they don't think you're a person before love, they won't think you're one after."

Also apparenlty "breast" is a dirty word.

Women can chest-feed, and you can order a chicken chest sandwich. 

 So throw it all out!  If it can't get it right every time, I want nothing to do with it!

I admit, it would be humorous and will likely censor unnecessarily, but removing certain words wouldn't offend me at all.  Like I said, it would be nice to have some setting preferences.