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#1385826
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Great work and congratulations for the release!

I’m downloading it just to hear Hal’s commentary and thoughts about the movie xD

For those interested in the Nobody version, in the Nobody thread RogueLeader posted the scenes that must be changed for that version:

RogueLeader said:

Potential Scenes that Must Be Changed for a Rey Nobody Edit

I’m going to point out all scenes that are also related to new info regarding her parents. Some Rey Nobody edits will want to cut as much out about her parents as possible, while others will just reinterpret that information.

Potential cut - Kylo and Palpatine’s first scene. “She is not who you think she is.” (This line could be given a new context though.)

Parent scene - Rey gets a vision where we get a quick glimpse of her parents and Ochi’s ship flying away.

Parent scene - On Pasana, Rey sees Ochi’s ship and says something is familiar about it.

Parent scene - Rey picks up the dagger and senses bad things have happened with that blade. She hears her mother’s screams. (This could be kept as-is without the other references to her parents.)

Special Mention - Although Rey using Force lightning is meant to be an obvious connection to Palpatine, without the other related connections, this can simply be seen as a manifestation of her dark side abilities.

Parent scene - While waiting for 3PO to reboot on Kijimi, Rey tells Finn that she recognized Ochi’s ship.

Parent scene - During Rey and Kylo’s Force bond duel, Kylo tells Rey that Palpatine killed her parents because they were trying to hide Rey from him.

Rey Palpatine Scene - Kylo tells Rey that she is Palpatine’s granddaughter. (NECESSARY CUT)

Parent scene - After they escape, Rey says, “He killed my mother, and my father. I’m going to find Palpatine, and kill him.”

Parent scene - Back at the Resistance base, Finn tells Poe that D-O’s former mission was to bring a little girl on Jakku to the Emperor.

Rey Palpatine Scene - On Ahch-To, Luke says to Rey, “Because you’re a Palpatine.” (NECESSARY CUT)

Rey Palpatine/Parent Scene - When Rey confronts Palpatine, he has multiple lines related to their connection (NECESSARY CUTS)
“Long have I waited… for my grandchild to come home.”
“I never wanted you dead, I wanted you here, Empress Palpatine.”
“It is your birthright to rule. It is in your blood, our blood.”
“Weak. Like your parents.” Rey responds, “No. My parents were strong.” (Would need to be cut if you were to remove her parents being murdered by Ochi)
“Your master, Luke Skywalker, was saved by his father. The only family you have here is me.”
Later, as Rey is about to kill Palpatine, he says, “She will take her revenge”. (This line would need to be cut an editor was going to remove Rey’s parents being murdered by Ochi.)

This is all I can think of without going back and watching the movie.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/REY-NOBODY-The-Official-Fan-Editing-Thread/id/76772

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#1383778
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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TestingOutTheTest said:

[Sigh.]

In the prequels Qui-Gon states to Shmi that they take children in the Republic to identify them for Force-sensitivity, and it is also explicitly stated that having a spouse and kids would get you expelled from the Jedi Order; from there, we can easily infer that most Jedi and Sith don’t come from special lineages.

[Sigh.]

Most Jedi and Sith are not the PROTAGONISTS of the MAIN STORY like Luke and Anakin, that is the point of the “Rey Nobody” twist, and that is why most people expected her to be related to someone after TFA, because she was the protagonist.

Luke => Protagonist => Son of the main villain.

Anakin => Protagonist => Coinceived by the force

Both previous protagonist had an interesting origin

The point of the “Nobody twist” is that she CAN be the PROTAGONIST of the MAIN story being her own character and not being related to someone else and having a mundane background (“sold for drinking money”).

then TROS happened…

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#1381281
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Now that the only things missing from the “Rey Palpatine” version are the Broken Saber and Luke’s wig fix (cosmetics), can the focus be put on the “Nobody” Version while waiting for Kewlfish and John?

There was some progress in Chase Adams thread:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/REY-NOBODY-The-Official-Fan-Editing-Thread/id/76772/page/1

But there wasn’t any more activity there since september.

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#1375636
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<em>REY NOBODY</em> - The 'Official' Fan-Editing Thread
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jarbear said:

She is immune to it apparently. Plus she has no REAL temptations to join the dark side at all. (The whole throne scene in TLJ with Kylo trying to persuade her to join had me roll my eyes. She JUST MET THIS GUY, had a “moment”, even though the day before he murdered his dad and is part of the space nazi army that has attacked her several times. That proposal was suppose to be tempting?)

Sigh Disney.

Sigh jarbear.

… I could talk about how did completely you missed the point of Rey’s arc in TLJ and how did you not paid attention to the movie at all.

But laying out opinions about the previous film and discussing it merits or shortcomings in a fanedit suggestion thread of a different film is unnecessary and derails the thread, there are countless threads for that already.

Not following something of the previous movie because in the opinion of someone “it doesn’t make sense” or “doesn’t work” is how we got the mess that was TROS in the first place.

The dialogue of @RogueLeader with her being tempted by the darkside, follows well her character and makes sense in the context of the previous movie.

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#1374076
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Vidmaster said:

So say we all.

I understood that Star Trek DS9 reference! /s

I think Rey’s struggle with the darkside works better with Rey being nobody, in that version, after learning that her parents dumped her in TLJ she develops the feeling that she isn’t wanted or worth of being with the others, that combined with the temptations of the darkside making her think that “she isn’t the Jedi, that she should be” brings her a myriad of anger issues and selfdoubt.

I find that more believable than “Maybe becomes bad because evil genes!”

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#1373910
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Chase Adams said:

The REY NOBODY cut

In regards to this, here’s a shameless promotion of one of my threads: 😉

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/REY-NOBODY-The-Official-Fan-Editing-Thread/id/76772

For those who haven’t read that thread, this scene from RogueLeader is great

RogueLeader said:

This version of the hangar scene just has Kylo Ren confirm Rey’s fears about the vision she saw earlier in the film. Rey’s reaction to info she already has might seem a little dramatic, but in my mind, I interpret Rey’s reaction as her starting to feel that her future is fated and inescapable. But a part of her is still in denial, convincing herself that Kylo Ren is lying in order to manipulate her.

Here’s a rough test for their hangar interaction: https://vimeo.com/447063673

And here’s an alternate line read for Kylo near the end of the scene, keeping closer to the original line: https://vimeo.com/447069546

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#1370315
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Burbin said:

I think the impact is even better with the crowd reacting to “The day of victory is at hand”, like they realize there’s an evil scheme that’s approaching soon, which Poe comes to explain afterwards with “He’s been planning his revenge, his followers have been building something for years…” etc.

And like I said the extra line makes it feel more like they’ve been hearing to a longer message, since “the great error is corrected” doesn’t sound like the beginning of a phrase, now it feels like we hear the final words of a longer speech. The speech ends with Palpatine promising their victory approaches = the crowd gasps.

The extra line also gives more breathing room for the audience to understand what’s going on in the scene (a large crowd hearing to a recording of Palpatine), a first time viewer will probably “get it” after the establishing shot & the first line, alongside the gasps of the crowd. Where as the current version feels a bit “blink and you’ll miss it”.

^^^^

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#1368064
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Burbin said:

  • Rey was nobody, she had no part in this story, except she’s Palpatine’s granddaughter and her parents were killed by an assassin Luke and Lando chased across the galaxy.

“Rey Palpatine” is such an unearned retcon that goes agains’t one of the most important twist of TLJ, and that hurts the trilogy so bad, maybe JJ didn’t like the twist of “They sold her for drinking money” as so many people did, but retconning in that way is embarrasing, he should have been a professional and follow the story he was given.

Is like if in Return of the Jedi this happened:

LUKE: Master Yoda… is Darth Vader my father?

YODA: Mmm… rest I need. Yes… rest.

LUKE: Yoda, I must know.

YODA: Right you are, but only an evil clone of your real father Anakin Skywalker he is.

LUKE: No way!

“Rey Palpatine” is not just a poorly written predictable copy of “I’m just father”, it also confirms that only people with “strong bloodlines” with high midichlorians count can do important things or are important in the order of the galaxy.

It also doesn’t work in a character level… Rey doesn’t even know or care about the guy! Luke saw vader killing his mentor and chasing/capturing his friends before the reveal, that is why so hard for him.

Why is Rey afraid of going to the darkside because his lineage in TROS? HER FUCKING FATHER WAS A CLONE/DIRECT SON OF SHEEV PALPATINE AND HE WAS A GOOD PERSON ACCORDING TO TROS, LUKE SKYWALKER WAS THE SON OF DARTH FUCKING VADER … UGH…

This movie is horrible.