darklordoftech

The Rebel Assault games being canon. They obviously weren't meant to be canon.

I hate that people defend the EU with Lucas's approval of it. Are people forgetting what else Lucas has approved, created, and suppressed?

lovelikewinter said:

Did the Rebels have a system for the handling of prisoners in the war?  I mean did they have the resources necessary to handle the troops they captured at Endor? Or did they just give them to the Ewoks to eat?  

"The prisoners had been sent on shuttles to what was left of the Imperial Fleet - the Rebel Star Cruisers were dealing with all that. Up there, somewhere."

- ROTJ novelization

At one point during the development of TPM, GL envisioned the Sith wearing armour and masks like Vader, not cloaks like Palpatine. It seems that that concept was revisited for Bane in TCW.

But the ANH novelization was the first material to provide information that's not in the movies themselves.

The Plagueis rationalizations on TFN are so amusing. They include "the Plagueis novel was decanonized because it would spoil Plagueis's survival" and Shmi was played by a swedish actor and Sydow is a swedish actor, therefore Sydow's character is related to Shmi".

I hate how Thrawn always gets the credit for starting the EU. The EU started with the ANH novelization.

lovelikewinter said: Just get rid of the awful Lowry restoration and use the GL Technicolor print as a color source, it should be good.  Disney and Fox know what the fans want, and they want happy fans for 2015.

Whatever source they use, I'm certain that we'll see fixed sabers. The saber problems are a glaring oversight that I can't imagine getting past anybody besides Lucas.

https://twitter.com/DelReyStarWars

The novelizations are still canon.

lovelikewinter said:

1.  The books eventually going up their own ass.  Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi were the worst offenders.

2.  Super-weapons of the week. Kevin J Anderson used this trope way too much.  The Sun Crusher?  Darksaber?  

3. Every book having "the biggest threat since Palpatine."  It got old after the second time they used it. Not every adventure had to be a galaxy-changing deal.  

4.  Killing off Chewbacca for shock value.  Thats like getting the kids a puppy for X-mas and then shooting it.

5.  No gay people at all.  

I agree with this entire post. 

DuracellEnergizer said:

There's nothing wrong with making the Jedi monks. The problem lies with making them dogmatic, baby-snatching cultists.

The KOTOR, SWTOR, DNT, LOTF, FOTJ, and Legacy Jedi are also dogmatic, baby-snatching cultists.

I hate that the Jedi in a lot of the EU are just like the prequel Jedi. There's a reason that the prequel Jedi failed.

Mike O said:

Lucas watching the OOT and sinking in his chair

Too bad for Lucas that he doesn't own the OOT anymore.

Edit out Yoda and Palpatine's saber usage, Dooku's lightning usage, and the Jedi army on Geonosis.

Give both Jedi and Sith a variety of saber colors (including red for Jedi and blue and green for Sith).

DuracellEnergizer said: the blue lightsabers are a different shade of blue from the ones in the OT and TPM

It's not that.

Is it just me, or do lightsaber blades look "off" in AOTC and ROTS?

DuracellEnergizer said:

Easterhay said:

But joining the dark side is equivalent to becoming a Sith; that's what crossing over to the dark side means.

So, does this mean the dark side didn't exist until the Sith did? 

imperialscum said:

darklordoftech said:

Am I the only one who hates how everyone who turns to the dark side joins the Sith? It makes absolutely no sense to me. You don't switch sides upon becoming a bad person.

How is that everyone? That is most definitely not true for the EU sources I like.

For example in JK2 there is no Sith at all. In JKA, if you choose to turn your character to dark side you eliminate the dark side faction leaders and take thier power base for your own purpose.

In SWTOR, despite being heavily centred around Sith, you have many occasions when Jedi who trun to the dark side does not become Sith. In one instance there is a group of fallen Jedi who think current order is unfit and tries to take over and reform it. In another instance, if you have dark side alignment by the time your Jedi Knight character is to be promoted to Jedi Master, council refuses to grant you the promotion. Then a republic general gives you the rank of general in republic army instead, in a sense that the republic army does not care about the "Jedi crap" and just values competence.

Excellent posts. Thank you both.

RicOlie_2 saiid: there's no way he could overcome Palpatine, since Palpatine is so powerful and Luke is inexperienced.

So if I'm part of a Rebel army and the rebellion ultimately fails, I'll end up joining the government's military?

Bingowings said: he was meant to be in the hologram conversation with Vader.

I wonder if that means he was supposed to be equal to or above Vader.

Easterhay said:

Of course they would. Striking down in anger is a big step towards the dark side.

I'm asking how taking a step towards the dark side leads to teaming up with another dark side user. Luke and Palpatine both using the dark side wouldn't change the fact that Luke is against Palpatine, not for him.

Easterhay said:

What?

By striking down Vader in anger, you're saying that those means would achieve the end of the Emperor and his empire. And I'm saying you're wrong, based on... well, take your pick, really, from various lines of dialogue throughout the films about striking out in anger and using your powers for attack, not knowledge or defence.

Those means could fail to bring down Palpatine and the Empire, but neither would those means lead to Luke joining Palpatine. 

Easterhay said:

That act alone, striking down Vader, would be an act of darkness. In such a case the end does not justify the means.

 But neither the end nor the means involved joining Palpatine. 

Easterhay said: So, if you hate that concept, chances are it's because you don't understand it, maybe?

What I don't understand is how in the world striking down Vader with all of your hatred = joining Palpatine. If anything, Luke would be striking down Vader in order to bring the Empire and the Sith down.

Bingowings said:

Sate Pestage is a really dumb name, I know it's a ROTJ concept but it sounds like those really dumb EU Sith names.

In that case, they could change his name.

I love how TOTJesque the final episode of TCW ("Sacrifice") is. Sith illusions and spells, Sidious speaking the Sith language that Exar Kun spoke, etc.