darklordoftech

Isn’t it possible that the Imperial General on Endor was a baffoon and/or a traitor?

I’d love to see some of the Imperial officers from the beginning of Star Wars.

The EU lacked any clear direction and constantly undermined itself. By the time Jacen turned to the dark side, Palpatine had already been cloned a bunch of times and the Vong war had already happened. Chewie dies, and then two years later the character he died to save dies.

Force Awakens by far

ROTJ continues ESB’s theme of choice, free will, and rejecting a dark destiny. Luke is taunted that it’s his “destiny” to turn dark and replace Vader, he’s told that the Emperor is now his master, but he disproves all that and stays true to who he is. Yoda and the Emperor both tell Luke that turning back from the dark side is impossible, Vader says “it’s too late for me,” but at the end Vader overcomes the dark side and sacrifices himself to save Luke.

SilverWook said:

A lot of what Palpatine told Anakin could have been a pack of lies with a tiny grain of truth. This is the guy who told him he killed Padme after all. Not to mention implying he knew how to cheat death, and when Anakin has taken the bait, Palpy is all “well, I’m sure we can learn how to do it”.

I’ll bet that bastard never even brought it up again.

Why would Palpatine lie about Plagueis’s gender?

According to the Art of TFA book, they considered making Snoke female. Palpatine repeatedly referred to Plagueis using male pronouns.

Yoda Is Your Father said:

Another thought: what happened to the CGI Tarkin rumours? Do we know if that’s happening?

I wouldn’t mind Daine Jir, Motti, or Tagge being recasted, but I’m not sure how I’d feel about cgi Tarkin.

It would be awesome if Snoke is the being who corrupted the first Sith. Nobody ever said that evil began with the Sith.

Faces has some digital sound effects that weren’t present in the theatrical releases and the binary sunset close-up has a purple sky instead of a red sky.

Episode I should show Anakin constructing the lightsaber that Luke uses in Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back. This way Luke receiving and using it and the line “your father’s lightsaber” would be more meaningful.

Between the editing and the music, TFA reminds me of AOTC in a bad way. The music doesn’t sound right, important things are edited out, we don’t get a chance to see the environments, etc.

TavorX said:

I thought the same too. Rule of two makes it less impressive since it implies it’s some key thing every Sith has to do and it’s expected. Being an anomaly as darklordoftech mentioned is far more interesting and there’s more impact to what Vader says. As if Vader has been loathing his master for a long time but had no means to overthrow him. Then comes his son and Vader has a “Ah yes, there’s finally hope in the galaxy after all!” moment. His aim was to restore order to the galaxy rather than have an apprentice for the sake of having one. I like that concept better imo.

This is exactly what I was going for. Vader longs to be free from Palpatine’s cruelty and oppression and sees Luke as an oppertunity to make that hapoen.

I thought maybe Anakin started going by “Darth Vader” before he became a famous Jedi. Vader having been Obi-Wan’s apprentice seems to be public knowledge in the OT.

Frank your Majesty said:

Still, in Empire, Vader wants to persuade Luke to rule with him as father and son, which implies that he wants to get rid of the Emperor. If you’d want to change the prequels so that Vader’s turn against the Emperor is not hinted at, you’d have to change Empire, too.

What you could still do is keep Vader’s ambitions a surprise until the end of Empire. Before the prequels, I didn’t think that Sith plotting against each other was the norm, but rather an anomaly resulting from the personalities of Vader and the Emperor.

I’d enjoy an anthology film about someone who’s a slave of the Empire. Their goal could be to escape to a free planet.

Yoda Is Your Father said:

Can everybody please stop saying ‘Midichlorians’ please?

When I stop hearing about Plagueis, I’ll stop talking about m***********s.

Lord Haseo said:

darklordoftech said:

Lord Haseo said:

darklordoftech said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I just realized that the Force Awakens essentially “retconned” (does that mean written out of canon?) the PT. The PT made clear that Vader was destined to destroy the Sith based on some ancient prophecy, and I’m assuming that Kylo Ren and that fish guy in the hologram are Sith - or at least the equivalent. So basically all that nonsense about the space prophecy and Vader being the savior of the universe was irrelevant.

The Nightsisters in TCW aren’t Sith and neither is Kylo Ren and his master. Abrams mentioned that Kylo Ren isn’t a Sith. Therefore, the prophecy is irrelevant to TFA. It never said “destroy the dark side.”

If Snoke is Plagueis

I’d rather Snoke be a giant midichlorian than he be Plagueis.

May I ask why? If Snoke is Plagueis that means that the Greatest Sith Lord in Galactic History was merely a pawn in what could be a much more labyrinthine scheme. I like it.

1. Manipulating midichlorians isn’t that impressive. It doesn’t make Plagueis seem threatening.
2. If Snoke is Plagueis, he’s awfully lucky that Vader sacrificed himself and caught The Emperor by surprise at the same moment.

Lord Haseo said:

darklordoftech said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I just realized that the Force Awakens essentially “retconned” (does that mean written out of canon?) the PT. The PT made clear that Vader was destined to destroy the Sith based on some ancient prophecy, and I’m assuming that Kylo Ren and that fish guy in the hologram are Sith - or at least the equivalent. So basically all that nonsense about the space prophecy and Vader being the savior of the universe was irrelevant.

The Nightsisters in TCW aren’t Sith and neither is Kylo Ren and his master. Abrams mentioned that Kylo Ren isn’t a Sith. Therefore, the prophecy is irrelevant to TFA. It never said “destroy the dark side.”

If Snoke is Plagueis

I’d rather Snoke be a giant midichlorian than he be Plagueis.

Anyway, I really cared about Finn, Han’s death was an excellent scene, Rey vs. Kylo was an excellent climax, and I love that Luke wears a gold and white version of his ROTJ robes. However, TFA feels extremely disconnected from the OT and doesn’t feel like it takes place in the Star Wars universe. The lighting-pacing-music combination that gives Star Wars its identity isn’t there. The music is performed in a way that makes it fail to convey the emotions that the music conveyed in the OT. The Starkiller Base weapon is introduced out of nowhere and feels like it went out of its way to rehash the OT.

moviefreakedmind said:

I just realized that the Force Awakens essentially “retconned” (does that mean written out of canon?) the PT. The PT made clear that Vader was destined to destroy the Sith based on some ancient prophecy, and I’m assuming that Kylo Ren and that fish guy in the hologram are Sith - or at least the equivalent. So basically all that nonsense about the space prophecy and Vader being the savior of the universe was irrelevant.

The Sith are one of many organizations that uses the dark side. The Nightsisters in TCW aren’t Sith and neither is Kylo Ren and his master. Abrams mentioned that Kylo Ren isn’t a Sith. Therefore, the prophecy is irrelevant to TFA. It never said “destroy the dark side.”

WEG was the guardian of Star Wars lore. Before the dark times. Before KJA.

Tobar said:

They’re literally the backbone of the EU. They’re the skeletal frame that the rest was built on top of.

I personally prefer WEG to the EU. The EU often did dumb and silly things, but WEG usually made sense and stayed true to the spirit of the OOT.

towne32 said:

SilverWook said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I loathe Plagueis for his name alone. I don’t want to see stupid names like that appear in the ST, not even in passing.

Yeah, that would be like naming an inept bounty hunter Greedo. 😉

As long as they don’t name a lone bounty hunter ‘Solo’.

Or a kid destined to take to the stars “Skywalker”.

Actually? Bring on the idiotic names if you want it to feel more Star Wars-y.

The problem with “Plagueis” isn’t that it’s a descriptive name. It 's that adding “us”,“is”, or something similar to the end of a word makes it sound stupid.

joefavs said:

I’m pretty sure his species was recanonized as Muun in Tarkin.

It wasn’t.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth_Plagueis/Canon

joefavs said:

The Plagueis truther community on Reddit is freaking the hell out over this image that showed up in a Mexican magazine purporting to be Snoke:

On the right is the Snoke image, the left is a result that comes up on the first page when you plug “Darth Plagueis” into google image search that it seems to be traced off of (the image they have of Kylo Ren is similarly traced off of a photo of a fan’s D23 costume). After all that stuff in the Andy Serkis and JJ interviews about how Snoke’s bone structure would be impossible to pull off without mocap, and how the look of the character continued to evolve into post-production, are we to believe they just lifted an existing (and rather lame) character design? It seems so obviously fake that it shouldn’t even warrant discussion, but then Collider Movie Talk claimed that they’d verified it with three different sources, and then shortly after that Disney contacted them requesting they edit the segment out of the episode. I honestly don’t even know that I’d hate it if Snoke was Plagueis in itself, because I know nothing about that character beyond his single mention in ROTS. I kind of assume he sucks because he’s from ROTS and ROTS sucks, but I have no concrete reason to be against this beyond a general desire to ignore the prequels coupled with a significant case of Sith-fatigue. In this last year of perusing TFA speculation stuff, though, I’ve found the Plagueis truthers themselves to be so insufferable that I think a major reason I’m upset about this is that I don’t want to see them validated. It’s not real, though. There’s no way.

Exactly how I feel. Conspiracy theorists are so annoying that the last thing you want is for them to be validated.