The claim that people carbon-freezing themselves in stories that take place before ESB contradicts Lando’s and Vader’s uncertainty about if a human can survive the Cloud City carbon-freezing process. Vader states that it was a “crude” carbon-freezing chamber, implying that that specific machine was the issue.
Can somebody explain to me what’s wrong with Minch, then?
As we said, Heir to the Empire says that Yoda killed the Dark Jedi in the Dagobah cave during the Clone Wars while Leland Chee said that Minch did it 700 years before the movies.
It’s stupid whether he’s the Real Yoda or not.
Thirded. The other issue it is that the Thrawn books said Yoda did that during the Clone Wars, not hundreds of years beforehand.
“That doesn’t seem any worse than Yaddle or whatever, this isn’t so bad.”
*reads article*
“O no, it’s so much worse.”
Especially if you’ve read the Thrawn Trilogy beforehand.
The issue is that it contradicts Yoda being the one who did that.
I think that Obi-Wan had at least one other Apprentice. Tarkin knows that Vader was Obi-Wan’s Apprentice, but doesn’t know that Vader = Anakin. Obi-Wan having another Apprentice would explain this.
Maybe Yoda warned Obi-Wan and Anakin to stay out of the Clone Wars because war leads to the dark side, but Obi-Wan and Anakin didn’t listen.
The True Sith, the powerful ancestors of the primitives who the Rakata and Jedi Exiles found on Korriban, the Dark Lords of the Rakata, want revenge. The last Sith ghosts have been destroyed by the New Republic and New Jedi Order. The True Sith watched with horror as Palpatine fell into a reactor and Exar Kun’s spirit was killed. No traces of the Sith species or Order remain in the parts of the galaxy known to humans, and the True Sith have decided that it’s time to take things into their own hands.
Some notes:
This is the only spinoff I have any interest left in seeing:
Beast Wars, Dark Lords of the Sith, the Sith War, and Redemption were all excellent, so I’d adapt those, although I’d remove the “Sith poison” that turned Ulic and I’d make Freedon Nadd the first human to interact with the Sith species (meaning no Dark Lords before Exar). I’d definately drop Golden Age of the Sith and Fall of the Sith Empire.
https://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/category/star-wars-scripts/star-wars-star-wars-scripts/
That TPM created a plot hole by having Yoda know about the Rule of Two. When and how the Rule of Two came to be isn’t mentioned in TPM, so as far as TPM goes, the Sith could have openly existed with the Rule of Two for a million years before their “extinction”.
Sound in space. Why should Star Wars be beholden to the physics of real life?
In one of the Disney canon comics, Luke finds a holocron that says the Sith were born from “the Hundred-Year Darkness”.
The Disney canon hasn’t touched on the
origin of the Sith yet, so there’s still a chance.
Here’s my idea: Rather than Kun reviving the Dark Lords, Kun is the first Dark Lord of the Sith and Freedon Nadd’s master is/was a leader of the Sith species. Also, the Sith Empire would have disappeared from the galaxy in 25,000 BBY rather than 5000 BBY.
In the Legends EU, I would have enjoyed seeing Vader get coronated by the Dark Lords of the Sith who inhabit Korriban. The comic, “Empire’s End” shows that they created a throne for Vader.
The transforming Emperor quote seems to be from before Yoda was created, and the idea was that there would be a battle between Palpatine and Obi-Wan in which it would be revealed that they can switch between physical and ghost forms at will. This is seen in the first screenplay draft of ROTJ and I suspect that introducing Palpatine as a hologram was supposed to make him seem “ghostly”. That quote may or may not have been from before Lucas decided to end the Luke-Vader-Palpatine Saga with the third (in release order) film.
Wait Dark Lord of Tech from /r/truezelda? Nice seeing you here! Wait a minute… Have we already had this exchange, or am I thinking of someone else?
I am indeed a frequent poster on /r/truezelda. Are you Ender_Skywalker?
A pre-TPM Sith wearing armor that inspired Vader’s
The definite origin of the Sith. The New Jedi Order novels were supposed to involve a civilization strong in the dark side that corrupted the founder of the Sith, but Lucas rejected the idea because he wanted to emphasize the Rule of Two.
In the video game “Jedi Power Battles”, Plo Koon uses Force Lightning in spite of being a lightsider. I don’t mind that because Jedi Power Battles was an out-of-continuity video game. What I hate is that the EU proceded to canonize it as “electric judgement”.
The whataboutism of the EU’s defenders. Sometimes I would criticize the EU and someone would respond with, “The prequels did that too.”
The idea was that masters were gurus who were entirely separate from the military aspect of the Jedi. This is why Yoda never trains Luke with the lightsaber, whereas this is the first thing Obi-wan covers.
Another part of the idea was that the masters are the secret rulers of the galaxy, with Yoda being the secret mentor of the more famous Obi-Wan and Palpatine secretly being a dark side master.
I think we’re overestimating how much 20th Century Fox has to do with the OUT, at least past 2020.
Getting Fox out of the way denies the naysayers an argument.
Came to this through the index thread.
"Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?
Kasdan: I understand what you’re saying, but I can’t believe it; I am in shock."
THis made me laugh for some reason
As I see it, the idea was that Yoda and Palpatine are “masters” while Vader and Obi-Wan are “knights”. “Knights” use lightsabers and tend to join the action while “masters” prefer giving orders and don’t need lightsabers because they can use The Force itself.
Kind of like a Feudal Lord and their vassals?
You might onto something considering that Lucas initially saw the Jedi and Sith as Samurai serving rival Feudal Lords.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1D62GU
Here’s a curveball. What does this spell for Fox’s holdover on a potential OT restoration?
It means that Fox won’t control anything anymore.
Came to this through the index thread.
"Lucas: Well, he is a teacher, not a real Jedi. Understand that?
Kasdan: I understand what you’re saying, but I can’t believe it; I am in shock."
THis made me laugh for some reason
As I see it, the idea was that Yoda and Palpatine are “masters” while Vader and Obi-Wan are “knights”. “Knights” use lightsabers and tend to join the action while “masters” prefer giving orders and don’t need lightsabers because they can use The Force itself.
Pre-1985 VHS tapes of ANH use the theatrical stereo mix. I’m unsure about the sound mixes in pre-DC/Faces releases of ESB and ROTJ.
