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#282110
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Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Glad to here you got the file to work and that you liked some of my cuts. See, I really thought we were on the same page.
Yeah, maybe Lucas should've asked us fans to write the Prequels.
I am not understanding why Luke as a baby cannot be shown in your edit, are you eventually changing something in Episode IV?
Well, while I really like the more dramatic way in which you included Luke's delivery to Tatooine, I can't see including him due to the fact that I just can't see a strong, rational reason why Vader or Palpatine would not seek Luke out. I mean it's Anakin's home world, for crying out loud! What's more than that is what reason Yoda and Obi-wan would have for making his whereabouts so simple to discover. I just don't see it.
All-in-all, I think it's best not to include it so that Luke's last name has the (remote) possibility in Episode 4 to be a coincidence while ramping up the dramatic value of Episode 3 by ending on such a down note. Who knows, maybe "Skywalker" is as common in the Republic as "Smith" is in the U.S. There's also something special I'm hoping I might be able to achieve with Padme's character.
Meanwhile behind the scenes somehow Anakin survives but his body is so severely damaged he needs a life support system at all times and dons a fancy intimidating suit to cover up his nasty charred body. While we are introduced to him in Episode IV, we don't actually find out it is him until Episode V...

I think it's better this way, too.
I know anybody who watches this will already know everything anyway, but I think looking at fanedits from a fresh perspective, as if the film has never been seen before and is new to everyone, helps make them flow better, rather than giving up things for granted such as Anakin being Darth Vader and Leia being Luke's sister.

I couldn't agree more.
You guys have given me some cool ideas. Now, I just need to see if I can actually make them happen.

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#281728
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Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
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Holy crap, C3! I downloaded Xvid, and I really like what you did with your edit!

Seeing Luke as a baby was pretty cool. I don't know if I can go down that path since I think Vader would've checked the Skywalker place just on the chance that Padme or their baby survived. But what you did with the end really bridged the gap to ANH in a way that felt more like the Original Trilogy. I definitely won't be able to forget what you did there while I'm doing my edit!
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#281724
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Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
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GM, thanks for the music critique and for the offer of your Episode 3 score. I've already downloaded it and am looking forward to using it in my edit. I am planning to deal with the audio at a later time like you suggested.

About the video: I had trouble encoding the review file. I'm not sure why. I've done my previous encoding at work, but my new edit station at home is still largely a mystery. Can you point out which shots look very fake? I'd like to see what you mean.

C3PX, it's probably the xvid codec I'm having trouble wiith. I'll see if I can come up to speed on that. I think we are of a very similar mind on how the birth of Vader left so much to be desired. I'm gonna need to chew on the Obi-wan abandonment thing. Not sure I want to bite off an attempt to digitally create a dead and burning Anakin.

It's sad that effects are needed to bridge a bad story. Without effects, either Obi watches him die, or he leaves him to a likely grim fate. Would've been nice to hear some kind of Jedi philosophy on this somewhere earlier in the Prequels; the simple belief that Yoda put forth in ESB would've sufficed: "Once down the dark path you start, forever will it dominate your destiny". Should've introduced that idea with fallen Jedi Count Dooku.

I was initially going to attempt what the Phantom Editor had done with Episode 2, and merely re-edit, with minimal manipulation of shot content, the movie into a more serious, sharp film. But other ideas have crept into my head, and I feel the story needs more than that to be more of the Star Wars film I wish it had been. *sigh*
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#281639
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Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
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Hey, Erikstormtrooper! Thanks for the encouragement and the constructive criticism. Let me start off by saying that I'm not too attached to the way I ended the movie.

Good criticism so far from everyone. Thanks! I didn't use the one line of Obi-Wan's since he seemed to say a very similar line the moment before, and I thought that "You have done that yourself" was the weaker of the two. But I may be so myopic at this point that I made the wrong decision. There's just so much that's disappointing to me in the Prequels.

I'm at work, so I can only be brief: Palpatine/Yoda fight does need work. Padme's death needs work. I agree with C3PX on what the basic resolve of the Anakin/Obi fight should have been; I have trouble with Obi leaving Anakin at all without even so much as finishing him off for mercy's sake! He doesn't pick up his lightsaber, because it seemed like an uncalled-for thing. No set up for it at all in the prequels. Seemed just a lame/rushed way for obi to have it in ANH.

I gotta go, but, C3PX, I downloaded your edit twice, and the video comes up only as colored static. Is it corrupt? I can hear the audio.
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#281417
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should I get the GOUT?
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GOUT SW DVD looks a little soft on my 1366x768 HD screen via my upconverting DVD player, but it's worth having. Just gives the impression of a used theatrical print.

I'm happy to have the original movies as I saw them when I was a kid, and the DVD menu treatment they were given was nice. There definitely seems to have been a good deal of love poured into the DVD interface.

I was on the fence about buying the discs, but I've never owned any widescreen version of the GOUT except for the SEs. Now I do.

Still, would be nice to see a GOUT-only release.
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#281243
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Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
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Hi to everyone! Thanks to Stossmo for reigniting my desire to finish my Episode 3 edit. It’s still in progress, but here’s a (long) glance at my progress in the form of the end of the movie.

I’d love to get feedback about the sequencing and storytelling. The sound/music editing is secondary at this point. Need to finish the story first, you know?

The link will be live until 04/14/07.

episode3_final_battles

Enjoy!

Edit: Download Link Updated

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#281149
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Anyone else totally disregard Leia being Luke's sister?
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I can see how Lucas slipped the sibling relationship in there on a whim. The whole Luke/Leia kiss in ESB has weirded me out for a long time.

Overall, I can except it, though. Always loved all three movies as a kid. It also adds some good, albeit brief, romantic tension between Leia and Han in ROTJ. Han definitely needed that for a little character development.

Thanks to CO and Zombie for the good discussion below. I didn't know the actual history behind all of this until now.

It was also kind of weird how Lucas had Vader say in the midst of his fight with Luke "Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for... Sister! So...you have a twin sister."

"...Sister!"? Who would talk like that? Sounds forced. It's nowhere near proper English. I had heard a story that the actors didn't even know what this revelation was until they were on set. The nonsense makes so much more sense now knowing how fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants Lucas was with Episodes 5 and 6.

But, of course, it doesn't take away how cool I thought the trilogy was as a kid.
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#278260
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Panorama() - an AviSynth function for converting 4:3 into 16:9
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Originally posted by: Moth3r
Hmmm, well now I feel like a bit of a fool.

Someone already wrote a filter that does the same thing - about 4 years ago. Check out WarpedResize at this page.


Nice job, Moth3r! I saw this treatment on a widescreen TV at Chili's Restaurant and always wanted to know a way to achieve the same. Thanks for bringing the knowledge to the forum.
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#277992
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Info: I recreated the wipe from ROTS (Released)
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Originally posted by: Erikstormtrooper
Does anyone know if darkhelmet is still doing this?

Would've broken my heart if no one was still interested in this. I'm getting back on track with this ASAP. Got a bit overwhelmed with some of the nasty, gory details of actually being able to do the revisions I imagined. Still a little unnerved, but it's definitely worth a try.

I'll have a lot of re-tooling to do since I want to make the audio as clean as I can; not to mention creating SW-quality wipes/transitions.

More to come soon. Dare I say a completion date of May 19, 2007?
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#257921
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ADigitalMan's Guide to MPEG2/AC3 Editing
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Thanks, ADM. I'll need to check into Pro Lab. Can it also tell you info like variable bitrate vs. constant and progressive encoding vs. lower/upper field first?

I found an MPEG-2 analyzer called "G Spot" at the site you recommended, and it's really cool, though I'm concerned some about its accuracy as I am using it at work. Have you used this software before?