darkhelmet

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Post: #288820
Topic: Episode III: A Less Grievous Version (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288820/action/topic#288820
Time: 2-Jun-2007 3:07 AM

Sorry to hear that the overall edit didn't please. If Marvolo's suggestion of including the "Birth of the Rebellion" scenes would fit, it would be nice to make Padme more of the substantial character she should be.

Wishing you the best on your exams! Can't wait to hear more about your project!

Post: #288718
Topic: Info: DVDHolocron.com - My tribute to all of you - repository of SW DVD Knowledge
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288718/action/topic#288718
Time: 1-Jun-2007 12:44 AM

Mathiias, this is waaayy cool. Thanks for putting in the effort and time to create this resource.

Post: #288676
Topic: Star Wars - The Vintage Edit (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/288676/action/topic#288676
Time: 31-May-2007 6:39 PM

Exciting stuff, PaulisDead2221. On a scale of 1-10, how difficult did you find the histogram work in Avisynth?

Post: #287663
Topic: Episode III: A Less Grievous Version (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287663/action/topic#287663
Time: 23-May-2007 6:32 PM

Oh, okay. Bummer. Wish they would've included that as an official deleted scene. Probably would've been a boon for fan edits. Thanks for the info.

Post: #287658
Topic: Episode III: A Less Grievous Version (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287658/action/topic#287658
Time: 23-May-2007 6:00 PM

Originally posted by: Marvolo
You can see footage of the deleted scene of Obi-Wan visiting Padme in the production diaries on disc 2 of the ROTS dvd.

This is very exciting news. Is the scene complete? Or is it a behind-the-scenes look?

Edit: I just scanned through the "Web Documentaries" bonus materials, and I saw a bit of one cut scene between Padme and Obi-Wan where he greets her with kisses, but there was no dialogue. Is this the scene? Is there more that you've found?

Post: #287653
Topic: Heath Ledger as The Joker (new pic)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287653/action/topic#287653
Time: 23-May-2007 5:15 PM

Thanks for the Joker pic, jarhead413!

Post: #287640
Topic: Heath Ledger as The Joker (new pic)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287640/action/topic#287640
Time: 23-May-2007 4:19 PM

Very creepy picture. I was hoping for something a little more fantastic, though, a little less raw than a mouth scar from ear-to-ear.

But, having just typed that, it really does bring a reality to the character.

I just hope that they don't forget that Batman is still a comic book character, and that the representation of evil doesn't need to be stomach-churning.

Post: #287638
Topic: Episode III: A Less Grievous Version (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287638/action/topic#287638
Time: 23-May-2007 4:10 PM

Originally posted by: Marvolo
I don't have a full edit of ROTS done. I mostly get seperate sequences and try to improve them rather than doing a full edit.
Keep this up and you just might.

Aboout Anikan's vision in Padme's apartment, I have tried just using the dream part up until the part where Anikan comes out of the dream and lowers the data pad then wiping to another scene before he looks up at Padme'.

How does that seem to work? What throws me off is that Anakin had just been with Obi-Wan, and they shared a lot of scene time with the Council and Farewell scenes. There never seemed to be a cinematic hint that Obi-Wan might be visiting Padme without Anakin's knowledge.

Not to mention the fact that the vision doesn't seem to be tied well visually to Anakin siting on the couch in Padme's apartment. Until then, Anakin's visions had only been in his dreams (right?). This new development should have been made important with a close-up on Anakin's eyes maybe.

Post: #287497
Topic: Will the original 'Star Wars' ever be properly presented on DVD?
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287497/action/topic#287497
Time: 22-May-2007 2:17 AM

Good to see someone in the media somewhere is telling it like it is. Keep the fires of discontent burning!

Ya know, for a film franchise Lucas kind of resented being famous for, he sure makes a big deal out of not taking people's money for it.

Post: #287496
Topic: Episode III: A Less Grievous Version (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287496/action/topic#287496
Time: 22-May-2007 2:09 AM

Hey, kerr. Very cool story-telling. I love the flow of the sequence where you inserted the deleted scene "The Plot to Destroy the Jedi". I can't wait to see more. Your edit looks and sounds very promising. Can't wait to share some more of my stuff with you and the forum once I get some time.

Marvolo, I really like your idea about continuing Anakin's frustration from his farewell to Obi-wan directly to his talk with Palpatine. Lucas' lack of development and follow-through on character emotion is a major flaw which your approach improves. We never really get to finish a character thought with the original cut. Is your cut available to check out?

About Padme's apartment scene, it seems to me like something needs to be done with it since it is only tenuously tied to Anakin's vision of Padme and Obi-wan. If it wasn't simply cut out, it might be a good opportunity to see Anakin's resolve to save Padme, but maybe it could come in somewhere before Obi-wan leaves so Anakin's jealousy seems a little more real? Any thoughts?

Post: #287158
Topic: Episode III: A Less Grievous Version (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287158/action/topic#287158
Time: 18-May-2007 6:19 PM

Sweet, kerr! I'm at work, but I'll definitely be checking these out. Thanks!

Post: #287111
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287111/action/topic#287111
Time: 18-May-2007 3:04 AM

Originally posted by: Sluggo
Boy, I really ought to watch my language!

ANH. Owen: "...or there'll be hell to pay."

ESB. Han: "Then I'll see you in hell!"

I guess you're not really out of line here (if Star Wars is our moral guide).

Post: #287110
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287110/action/topic#287110
Time: 18-May-2007 3:01 AM

Originally posted by: GP
If the fan-suggested plot twists and turns were followed, the entire series might have been magnitudes better, more entertaining, and (dare I say it?) classic.

Couldn't agree more. Case in point, Lucas rewrote Star Wars lore for the PT which had originally been accepted as cannon prior to the PT.

From the book A GUIDE TO THE STAR WARS UNIVERSE, SECOND EDITION (copyright 1994): A solid black Rebel Insignia next to the entry for "Jedi Master" denotes that the information was drawn from an original Lucasfilm source such as the films, the radio dramas, or the original novelizations. The entry reads:

"The most powerful Jedi Knights eventually evolve into Jedi Masters. Jedi Masters are teachers and miracle-workers of extreme power and ability. Jedi Masters have moved beyond the need for weapons such as lightsabers, preferring to depend solely on the Force to give them strength[my emphasis]. The Jedi Master Yoda trained Luke Skywalker after the death of Obi-Wan Kenobi. [ESB]"

"[ESB]" denotes that the sources for this info are the film EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and its novelization.

I've looked in an updated edition of this book, and the entry has been changed to eliminate this idea from Star Wars history.

Alright. Enough preaching to the choir.

Post: #287106
Topic: Episode III: A Less Grievous Version (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/287106/action/topic#287106
Time: 18-May-2007 2:35 AM

Originally posted by: kerr
Darkhelmet, your take on the Mace/Palpatine scene is really good. It doesn't introduce the plot hole that my version does, but still makes it bearable to watch. I'll probably use a variation of it in my final version.
I'm glad to hear that you like my cut of the scene. I'd be honored for you to use the idea. I hope you don't mind me borrowing from you.
Anything else you'd like to see?

Yeah, I'm really interested in seeing how you cut the bridge scene together, but I'd also like to see the "Plot to Destroy the Jedi" inclusion, the first Jedi Council scene ending with Anakin sitting down, and Padme's apartment scene cutting to Anakin in Palpatine's office.

At your convenience of course.

Post: #286934
Topic: Pants Game: The Star Wars Edition
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286934/action/topic#286934
Time: 17-May-2007 4:16 AM

Alternatively: HAN: "It's the pants that made the Kessel run in less than twelve
parsecs!"

C3PO: "There'll be no escape for the pants this time."

Vader: "Where are those pants you intercepted?"

Vader: "Commander, tear this ship apart until you've found those pants and bring me the Ambassador."

C3PO: "Hey, you're not permitted in pants. It's restricted. You'll be deactivated for sure."

Owen: "I told you to forget it. Your only concern now is to prepare those new pants for tomorrow."

Obi-wan: "Vader was seduced by the Dark Side of the pants."

Post: #286911
Topic: George Lucas calls Spiderman 3 'silly'
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286911/action/topic#286911
Time: 16-May-2007 11:16 PM

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
I posted this on the Superman board but it was worth cross-posting over here.

Lucas needed to help script-polish Spidey 3. That way when Peter is dumping all that sand out of his boot after his first fight with Sandman, he could say something compelling like "I hate sand. It's rough, and course. And it gets in everything." Then cut to Peter's proposal-date where he says to MJ ... "Unlike here. Where everything is soft. And smooth. I love you Mary Jane Watson. You are in my very soul, tormenting me."

Then when MJ says "I can't believe you shared our kiss with her" have Peter reply with something really deep and moving. Like, "I'm haunted by the kiss that I shouldn't have given. I hope that it doesn't turn into a scar."

Add in some important expository scenes with Venom where he says, "How can you take pictures for the bugle and NOT have a staff position? It's insulting. And Jameson is worse ... he's overly critical ..." *throw an empty film canister* "In most ways ... I'm actually better than Peter Parker. It's all Peter's fault. He's holding me back!!! AND I HATE HIM!!!!!" *quivering lip*

Add in a few floating robots in the background for no reason whatsoever and it won't be so silly.

Nice.

Post: #286909
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286909/action/topic#286909
Time: 16-May-2007 11:13 PM

Originally posted by: Sluggo
All the things that the fans had been waiting to see were crammed into the last 10 minutes. No wonder the believability is shot to hell.

Here! Here! Sluggo said it.

Post: #286908
Topic: Episode III: A Less Grievous Version (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/286908/action/topic#286908
Time: 16-May-2007 11:03 PM

Sounds cool. Glad to see the Wookie battle gone. I was thinking of doing this for my edit (if I can ever get more time for it).

So, how does it all flow when you watch it? Is Grievous completely cut from the film? How did you handle the bridge scene where Anakin takes the helm after the fight?

I really like how you are creating a stronger plot with the inclusion of the deleted scene "A Plot To Destroy the Jedi". You're cliffhanger ending to the Jedi Council scene where Anakin is begrudgingly allowed to be part of the Council is also very cool. Episode 3 really missed the mark on being a mature film by treating the scenes so childishly.

As I look over your changes, there is a lot there that I might have to borrow. Regarding the Mace/Palpatine scene, I did a cut of this which might help your story flow. It does include the lightning transformation, but I think it downplays it and leaves what really happened open to interpretation. You can download it here if you'd like.

So, when will be able to see a scene or two?

Post: #285227
Topic: Battle for Naboo Re-Edit (Completed)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/285227/action/topic#285227
Time: 3-May-2007 1:59 AM

Holy crap, GM! Just watched part 1, and it rocked! Made me feel like I was watching a real John Williams Star Wars movie in spite of Lucas's blunders. Nice work.

Post: #285226
Topic: Wookie Groomer HDTV
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/285226/action/topic#285226
Time: 3-May-2007 1:47 AM

Originally posted by: Moth3r
Not sure about the use of WMV-HD VC1, though. Apparently the smart kids are now using x264/AC3 in mkv.

Not that x264/AC3 isn't smart, but...
The digital video industry is already adopting VC-1. It is a mandated codec for next-generation optical media formats such as High Definition DVD (HD DVD), Blu-Ray, and the forward versatile disc (FVD) standard, and is a required codec for Digital Video Broadcasting—Handheld (DVB-H).

Post: #285008
Topic: ADigitalMan's Guide to MPEG2/AC3 Editing
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/285008/action/topic#285008
Time: 1-May-2007 12:05 AM

Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Should be. It could be in a 4:3 with a ton more letterboxing (like the GOUT) but a 16x9 video window is an anamorphic source.

Okay. Cool. Good point about the GOUT. Things could definitely be worse. Thanks, ADM.

Post: #285007
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/285007/action/topic#285007
Time: 1-May-2007 12:02 AM

Interesting idea, ronlaw. I'll keep that in mind. Not sure how it could work out with the footage, but all suggestions for resolving this blunder of a plot point are definitely welcome. Thanks.

Post: #284693
Topic: Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/284693/action/topic#284693
Time: 28-Apr-2007 5:54 PM

Jedi_jra, your ending makes so much more visual sense to me, not to mention having a better story-telling sense. Lucas definitely lacked subtlety with connecting these final threads to the Original Trilogy.

Also, the static shot of Bail, Yoda and Obi sitting around that conference table onboard the Tantive never sat well with me since it was shown directly after the shot of the ship zooming into Naboo. Cinematically, it didn't match. The Tantive zooms in to land, and, BOOM!, we're on a wide interior shot of the ship with NO movement! Putting that sequence in as the Tantive actually touches down on Alderaan works so much better.

Post: #284620
Topic: ADigitalMan's Guide to MPEG2/AC3 Editing
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/284620/action/topic#284620
Time: 27-Apr-2007 10:00 PM

So, a 2.4x1 ratio will always be letterboxed and set within a 16x9 frame?

Post: #284394
Topic: Darabount rips Lucas over Indy IV script
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/284394/action/topic#284394
Time: 26-Apr-2007 3:03 AM

Originally posted by: zombie84
What i don't understand is:

If Paramount is paying for the movie...
If Frank Darabont was writing the screenplay...
If Steven Speilberg is directing it

Then what is the big deal about Lucas anyway?

I don't even think he is the producer, just executive producer, someone else will be actually managing the daily production chores. Lucas' importance just seems arbitrary.

Zombie, Paramount is most likely handling the advertisement and distribution of the movie, while Lucas, as executive producer, would be providing the funding.

You know the golden rule: the one who has the gold makes the rules.

For those who'd like to go directly to the story source:
http://www.imdb.com/news/wenn/2007-04-20