dark_jedi

toho-scope said:

would placing colour corrected 2004 clips help with the smearing?

I am actually thinking about using the 04 DVD for the base, and replace all that was changed from 97 for the DVD's, and use the HD files(downscaled to 720p) with 720p upscaled scenes for the Blu-ray release, and for audio, 97 LD SE LPCM, 97 LD SE DD 2.0, and 97 LD SE DD 5.1, but I am just thinking out loud for now, I just want to make the best possible version I can since this will never get an official release either, which is to bad really.

It is just to bad that there is SO much smearing and other impurities for the lack of a better word, in ALL the different DV Broadcast versions, Hell I do not even know what I should try to match the color to, the LD rips are real dark, VHS versions not as pink, and the DV broadcast versions are all different to LOL, so do any of you have any suggestions? to be honest, the 04 really doesn't look that bad colorwise.

No Strings Attached, damn, Natalie is HOT!

Radi0n said:

Releasing the '97 SE trilogy on Blu-Ray would actually prove a fantastic companion set for your OT Blu-Ray set. I think that would make a huge amount of people very, very happy :)

Well I wouldn't say huge LOL, not many people are interested in the Blu-ray Set I am doing now, but that is OK, we all have different tastes and all, as long as I make some of you happy, I am comfortable with that.

I am actually tossing around re-doing this whole project from scratch, and if I decide to do this, I will not upload the version I have now, for obvious reasons, I really, really, can't stand the smearing on these, some areas it is really bad, but overall, the set does look very well, but for me the once in a while smearing takes away from the viewing experience LOL I will try and make up new DVD's and possibly for myself, a Blu-ray companion set just like the OT BD Set I am doing, but first, I NEED to finish up what I am working on now.

Now that would be the Ultimate set to me, the Saga Set coming out this Sept. and both the UOT and 97 SE on Blu as well, so I will see what I can do.

CP3S said:

dark_jedi said:

You know CP3S, maybe you should know what you are talking about first before YOU jump to conclusions, we, meaning asterisk and myself have had issues before, so for him to make that comment does not at all surprise me, is that OK?

And for he record, I am not full of anything but heat, it is hotter than fuck here today, wasn't expecting heat like this for another 2-3 weeks.

Maybe I did jump to a conclusion, in that case I am sorry.

Anyway, I feel you, I hate intense heat. That's why I try to live in the coldest places possible. Even thinking about it makes me feel all sticky...

Damn, and it is supposed to be way hotter tomorrow, shit!

but back on topic, You know you guys are right, this is the internet, and it is a Forum, who am I to say who should and who shouldn't complain about the same issues in every post, every day, if that is what needs to happen for some, then who am I to say you shouldn't, I am sorry for anything I have said, it just seems like a waste to me when we have s SO many other topics on this board that we can talk about that are a lot more positive than this, because we all know this for fact, NO UOT this September right? and we also know that we will NOT see any other release for a very, very long time, so hopefully, it will get a release then, at least that is what I hope anyways.

doubleofive said:

Yes

Thanks for the link and answer.

CP3S said:

dark_jedi said:

asterisk8 said:

You're content to wait, others are content to bicker. Why do you care how other people spend their time?

LOL, why does it not surprise me that you are trying to provoke me to say more...

Wow, now you are just coming of as full of yourself. Maybe he is trying to tell you to ask yourself why you are so concerned with the way we are spending our time, and isn't actually trying to "provoke" you into anything.

You know CP3S, maybe you should know what you are talking about first before YOU jump to conclusions, we, meaning asterisk and myself have had issues before, so for him to make that comment does not at all surprise me, is that OK?

And for he record, I am not full of anything but heat, it is hotter than fuck here today, wasn't expecting heat like this for another 2-3 weeks.

asterisk8 said:

dark_jedi said:

I am content enough to wait, and not bicker every fucking day like some here, and other places.

You're content to wait, others are content to bicker. Why do you care how other people spend their time?

LOL, why does it not surprise me that you are trying to provoke me to say more, I have said all I need to say, read my posts and maybe you will understand, then again, maybe not, you do what you feel you must.

Later fellas, May da schwartz be wit you.

brash_stryker said:

I'm also a realist, and if George Lucas is as much of a cold, calculating businessman as he seems, I imagine he'll release the UOT in a few years on Bluray to cash in on both those that demand the originals and those die-hard fans that will buy anything with 'Star Wars' written on it. The same as the GOUT.

Whether it'll be Blu-Ray quality though remains to be seen.

And that is exactly why I said, "but then again, maybe he will at some point".

Ady, with your announcement of ESB:R being Blu-ray, I was curious if you had any thoughts of going back and doing a Blu-ray version of SW:R?

Thanks

CP3S said:

dark_jedi said:

I know, but NOTHING at all being said here or anywhere is going to change that, I have accepted that, why can't you? so why sit and bicker aimlessly at something WE are not going to change?

Maybe it makes us feel better? Maybe we appreciate that we are not alone in our frustration.

I could easily flip your point and say that NOTHING you say here is going to change the way we feel about the current situation or stop us from enjoying conversing about it with fellow fans who feel the same way. I've always appreciated you and the contributions you make to this community DJ, so don't take this the wrong way: but you come off sounding like a typical GL apologist when you post gripes like this. Your moaning is every bit as pointless as ours.

 

LMAO!, you crack me up, I did have a long winded come back but after reading some of your other posts, I decided not to, just is not worth it, and you can call me whatever you want, if it makes you feel better about yourself, go for it.

Most people that know me know that I would LOVE to have an official release of the UOT, that is a fucking given, I grew up watching these in the Theaters, but I am a realist, if he has not budged yet, maybe he won't ever, but then again, maybe he will at some point, I am content enough to wait, and not bicker every fucking day like some here, and other places.

Akwat Kbrana said:

Furthermore D_J, while your GOUT-sourced preservations are impressive, they're limited by the source material. No avisynth script will ever be able to achieve results from a laserdisc transfer on par with a professional restoration sourced from the original materials.

As I stated already, lets see where all these comments in this thread gets us, lets see if George Lucas caves in to all the demands quoted here and everywhere else on the net, lets see.

Harmy said:

Thanks for backing me up on this, Zombie - I'm just trying to make the colours closer to what I think (based on evidence) they originally were.

and that is exactly what I am talking about, "I think", now I could be wrong, but that is an opinion, not fact, not 100% perfect, and why is that? because we have nothing 100% perfect to color match to, simple fact, it is still just speculation of what it should look like, am I wrong?

Sorry Harmy, I will get the FLOCK out of your thread now, you guys carry on.

doubleofive said:

 

dark_jedi said:

OH, and before you start thinking I am angry LOL, I am not, far from it actually, as you said, I have my own projects to fall back on and share with my Kids and Friends, so I have no reason to sit here and be bitter over something I can't control.

I don't think that future generations should have to know who dark_jedi is to get decent versions of the original movies. The general public deserves better, whether they think they want it right now or not.

 

Fair enough, but let's all see a few years from now if this thread, or any thread, changes that.

If George Lucas is dead set against releasing the UOT, than so be it, NO amount of complaining, Internet petitions, polls, etc. is going to change that, all I am saying is I have come to accept this.

So we will see what the future holds.

No offense zombie, but how do you know what exactly the colors should be? I mean, to play Devils advocate here, who says what you are saying is Gospel and 100% correct? I am curious is all, because like I said previously, I am definitely in the minority here with stinky-d, I do not buy into this super crazy saturation of colors like most here do, some of these samples being shown just look fucking terrible(I am not talking about these here Harmy, some of yours just look way over sat to me) and then to run that process through the entire film?

You know colors is just a very heated topic because everyone, well most everyone, see things differently, it will never look great to all, I found that out myself doing this kind of tweaking on a project of mine, it just really boils down to what Harmy wants and likes, and it is always easier dealing with the Folks that agree with you, than disagree, so I will stay out of the color talk in this thread like I have done in a couple of other members threads here to.

Good luck Harmy, just do what looks right to you.

TV's Frink said:

C'mon dark_jedi, you know better than that!  Heck, you're doing restoration work yourself.

You know the complaint is not the presence of the SE, but rather the suppression of the OOT.

I know, but NOTHING at all being said here or anywhere is going to change that, I have accepted that, why can't you? so why sit and bicker aimlessly at something WE are not going to change? this whole subject is actually very simple, if you are interested in it, like me, you are going to buy it, if you are not, well then you probably are not going to buy it, so why the page after page of, I will call it bickering, some get offended if I say whining and bitching and crying LOL, I mean my God, have you read the crap at Blu-ray.com?

OH, and before you start thinking I am angry LOL, I am not, far from it actually, as you said, I have my own projects to fall back on and share with my Kids and Friends, so I have no reason to sit here and be bitter over something I can't control.

And the same could be said for all on the other side as well, so what's the point?

It doesn't matter, people are STILL going to buy it, I bet actually, numbers wise, this Set sells very, very well, despite all the bitchin and cryin from anyone in this thread or anywhere for that matter.

Luffy03 said:

Hi everybody!

What do you think about that sunset?

http://picfront.de/d/8c8i

 

What does this have to do with Harmy's project?

timdiggerm said:

dark_jedi said:

Luke does not even look like a white guy anymore LOL

Ah, no, he looks like a tan 70s white dude. Which...he was. Also, it's friggin Tatooine.

I am not talking about this particular project, in a different one Luke does not look white, or a tanned 70's dude, but who cares, it seems I am in the minority here when it comes to this kind of coloring, which is fine, that is why I do my own projects, or modify someone elses to my likes.

Harmy said:

And the thing is that you say you still feel like watching the SE, but I'm pretty sure that's because you've been watching the original versions in the desaturated transfers done for VHS and LD for 30 years, so that's how the OOT looks in your mind and anything more saturated seems like the SE, which had more rich and saturated colours even in the 97 transfer.

and you could be right LOL, but I DO like color, don't get me wrong, just not to much where everything looks fake and weird, the only example I can come up with is like going from B&W in Wizard of OZ to Color LOL, pretty damn extreme.

I really like what Harmy is doing here, but for the longest time I thought I was the ONLY one who thought that about the over saturating of his color, well stinky, as a matter of fact, I agree with you 100% I see now I am not the only one anymore, as much as I like what I see in the changes, it still gets hard to watch because it still feels like watching the SE, but I have spoken to Harmy by PM's a lot lately and he already knew how I felt, I just told him personally, but if I remember reading him correctly(Harmy) this is how he likes it and enjoys it, so by all means leave it the way you like it, after all, it is your baby, shouldn't you make it the way you want it? because ESB is the same way, really, really over saturated for my tastes, but love the damn changes, great work! I guess it really wouldn't be to hard for anyone to just re-do the video to their own tastes and re author.

@Stinky, you should see some of the other projects going on around here color wise LOL, it seems over saturation is what most want, 1 in particular, Luke does not even look like a white guy anymore LOL, I do like your George Hamilton reference though, but at least he still looks like a white dude.

SithTrooper said:

If possible, I'd like to get an MS invite too. Thx.

PM sent.

Harmy is absolutely right, you do NOT want to shrink these unless you plan on stripping some of the audio.

Well if you need help with any of the scenes upmixing to 5.1 let me know, I actually have some time between my own project, I am waiting on my Blu menu's so if you want to upload a scene or 2 I could upmix the audio and you can edit in and see how it will sound.

let me know

ps. where are you getting the scenes from anyways? the DVD or Blu-ray? because I have the Blu-ray 5 disc set, I believe I have the DVD set as well.