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OK I just burned my sample AVCHD clip to DVD and watched it on my PS3 and Sony player,I personally think it looked DAMN good,I am going to go ahead with the AVCHD project now as well,sure it has some flaws,but holy crap does it look 100 times better than the crappy ass gout release we officially got.

hopefully more of you will burn test it to,I would love thoughts.

Here is the video sample it is 116 MB:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/hoqbhx

screens to follow

does anyone know how to do thumbnails here so not to take up so much space?

Star Wars Trilogy Theatrical Editions (2006 Bonus DVD as source) ALL versions information & availability…
 

SW Trilogy version 1 info(V1):

Star Wars
video - 16:9 anamorphic widescreen @ 2.35:1 NTSC
audio - English ac3, (1) 93‘ LD audio DD 2.0 (384 KB/S) (2) 93’ LD audio DD 5.1 upmix (448 KB/S) (3) 77’ mono Mix Dolby 1.0 (96 KB/S)
menu - none
subs - English from the Bonus DVD
availability - newsgroups? (this set is pretty old now)

Empire Strikes Back
video - 16:9 anamorphic widescreen @ 2.35:1 NTSC
audio - English ac3, (1) 93‘ LD audio DD 2.0 (384 KB/S) (2) 93’ LD audio DD 5.1 upmix (448 KB/S)
menu - none
subs - English from the Bonus DVD
availability - newsgroups? (this set is pretty old now)

Return of The Jedi
video - 16:9 anamorphic widescreen @ 2.35:1 NTSC
audio - English ac3, (1) 93‘ LD audio DD 2.0 (384 KB/S) (2) 93’ LD audio DD 5.1 upmix (448 KB/S)
menu - none
subs - English from the Bonus DVD
availability - newsgroups? (this set is pretty old now)
 

SW Trilogy version 2 info(V2):

This entire set was exactly the same as the above version 1 set, with only the Alien subs color changed to yellow and I moved them up into the image, I never liked them down in the black bar.
availability - this was never uploaded, only a couple people ever got copies of this version.
 

SW Trilogy version 3 info(V3):

Star Wars
video - 16:9 anamorphic widescreen @ 2.35:1 NTSC
audio - English ac3, (1) 1977 70mm Six-Track Reconstruction (Dolby Digital 5.1) @ 448kbps (2) 1977 Theatrical 2.0 Surround @256kbps (3) 1977 Theatrical Mono @ 128kbps (4) 1985 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix @ 256kbps (5) 1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix @ 256kbps (6) Isolated Score 2.0 Stereo @ 192kbps
menu - static menu w\audio
subs - none
availability - Myspleen

Empire Strikes Back
video - 16:9 anamorphic widescreen @ 2.35:1 NTSC
audio - English ac3, (1) 1993 Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 “PURIST” Remix @ 448kbps (2) 1980 Theatrical 2.0 Surround @ 256kbps (3) 1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix @ 256kbps (4) Isolated Score 2.0 Stereo @ 192kbps
menu - static menu w\audio
subs - none
*bonus -  rare Empire recordings featuring C3PO, Princess Leia, Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.
availability - Myspleen

Return of The Jedi
video - 16:9 anamorphic widescreen @ 2.35:1 NTSC
audio - English ac3, (1) 1993 Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 “PURIST” Remix @ 448kbps (2) 1983 Theatrical 2.0 Surround @ 256kbps (3) 1993 Home Video 2.0 Surround Remix @ 256kbps (4) Isolated Score 2.0 Stereo @ 192kbps
menu - static menu w\audio
subs - none
availability - Myspleen

special note on the version 3, it uses the latest g-force script with some very minor tweaks & edits and has theatrically created alien subtitle timing and placement for Star Wars and Return of The Jedi.
 

Star Wars Original Trilogy Theatrical Edition Blu-ray Set V2(BD25)

Star Wars
video - 720p AVC
audio - English - (1 & 2) 1977 70mm Six-Track Reconstruction - DTS-HD MA 5.1 & Dolby Digital 5.1 (3 & 4) 1977 Theatrical 2.0 - Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround & LPCM (5 & 6) 1977 Theatrical Mono - Dolby Digital & LPCM (7 & 8) 1985 Home Video 2.0 - Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround & LPCM (9 & 10) 1993 Home Video 2.0 - Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround & LPCM (11) Isolated Score Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo
menu - yes, motion top menu w\audio and pop up menu with scene selection, and audio selection.
subs - English SDH, Swedish, French, Finnish, German, Norwegian, Spanish, Danish, Brazilian Portuguese
extras - Original Theatrical and Teaser Trailers
disc size - ? GB’s
availability - COMING SOON!

Empire Strikes Back
video - 720p AVC
audio - English - (1 & 2) 1993 Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 Remix - DTS-HD MA 5.1 & Dolby Digital 5.1 (3 & 4) 1980 Theatrical 2.0 - Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround & LPCM (5 & 6) 1993 Home Video 2.0 - Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround & LPCM (7) Imperial Edition Isolated Score LPCM (8) Isolated Score 2.0 Stereo Dolby Digital
menu - yes, motion top menu w\audio and pop up menu with scene selection, and audio selection.
subs - English SDH, Swedish, French, Finnish, German, Norwegian, Spanish, Danish, Brazilian Portuguese
extras - Original Theatrical and Teaser Trailers, rare Empire recordings featuring C3PO, Princess Leia, Han Solo, Luke Skywalker and Darth Vader.
disc size - ? GB’s
availability - COMING SOON!

Return of The Jedi
video - 720p AVC
audio - English - (1 & 2) 1993 Alternate Dolby Digital 5.1 Remix - DTS-HD MA 5.1 & Dolby Digital 5.1 (3 & 4) 1983 Theatrical 2.0 - Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround & LPCM (5 & 6) 1993 Home Video 2.0 - Dolby Digital 2.0 Surround & LPCM (7) Isolated Score Dolby Digital 2.0 Stereo
menu - yes, motion top menu w\audio and pop up menu with scene selection, and audio selection.
subs - English SDH, Swedish, French, Finnish, German, Norwegian, Spanish, Danish, Brazilian Portuguese
extras - Original Theatrical and Teaser Trailers
disc size - ? GB’s
availability - COMING SOON!
 

Star Wars 1997 Special Edition Blu-ray Set(BD25):

**A New Hope 1997 Special Edition
**video - 720p AVC
audio - DTS-HD MA 5.1, Dolby Digital 5.1, PCM 2.0, Dolby Digital 2.0
menu - yes, motion top menu w\audio and pop up menu with scene selection, and audio selection.
subs - None
extras - ANH 97 SE Trailer, The Making of The 1997 Special Editions.
disc size - ? GB’s
availability - Coming Soon!

**Empire Strikes Back 1997 Special Edition
**video - 720p AVC
audio - DTS-HD MA 5.1, Dolby Digital 5.1, PCM 2.0, Dolby Digital 2.0
menu - yes, motion top menu w\audio and pop up menu with scene selection, and audio selection.
subs - None
extras - ESB 97 SE Trailer, The Making of The 1997 Special Editions.
disc size - ? GB’s
availability - Coming Soon!

**Return of The Jedi 1997 Special Edition
**video - 720p AVC
audio - DTS-HD MA 5.1, Dolby Digital 5.1, PCM 2.0, Dolby Digital 2.0
menu - yes, motion top menu w\audio and pop up menu with scene selection, and audio selection.
subs - None
extras - ROTJ 97 SE Trailer, The Making of The 1997 Special Editions.
disc size -
availability - Coming Soon!
 

Props:

You_Too for being 1 hell of a great partner in BLU V2 and other projects!
Mysterious Third Man on our Team!
Torrente (for some of our “official” artwork)
Imrahil2001 (for some of our “official” artwork)
hairy_hen (for the 5.1 mixes)
ABC (for all the help on ESB IE and the great covers for the V3 Set & Blu-ray as well as other projects!)
DoctorM (always around either at OT or on AIM for tech help when needed)
Adywan (for all the tech help he has provided on various occasions, especially Vegas help when doing the audio, and AE help)
Harmy (for tech help with AE, and for the GREAT Blu-ray covers)
and everyone that has commented in the this thread, because comments help to, whether they are good or bad.
 

!!! I will update this post as needed !!!

vbangle said:

Very nice looking video sample DJ. IMHO the offical GOUT audio is shit. So for my money it's between the other two. Realize this is coming from 40 yr old ears, and not being an audiophile with all the lingo and tech knowledge....I like the straight LD Belbucus PCM ripped audio the best. Santanika's 5.1 is good but it seems to lose something going from the 2.0 to 5.1. The 2.0 PCM is crisp clear and rich sounding....just like I remember the Laserdiscs. Anyway for what its worth there ya go.

well I will wait a little while longer to let other's chime in,but I am leaning towards swapping the original GOUT audio for the Belbucus PCM as well,and I will do that to all 3,and the 5.1 won't fit on the DVD,I wish it would,but it won't.

but for the record,I really like the 5.1 mix,it has some good rumble.

Does anyone know how to get this to work on a lossless avi file?
or does it have to be a .d2v file?

If you did not know I used gforce's script and made lossless avi's of the SW Trilogy,and now just for the hell of it I want to try and upconver the file and see how it looks,but I cannot get solo21's script to work.
I keep getting the error that MVAnalyse need yuy2 or yv12,well I put the convert command all over the place in the script and it just keeps telling me the same thing.

any idea's?

Thanks

Here is an ESB sample of the 3 different audio options I have,it is in VIDEO_TS form already to burn to a re-writable DVD'r:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/769jta

The first audio is the official GOUT audio,second is Belbucus 93 PCM encoded to DD 2.0 Surround @ 384,third audio is satanika's DD 5.1

file is 133 MB's in size.

MoveAlong said:

Hey, a Coov sighting! Good to see you here again. PM me and I'll take care of you getting these...

Damn MA you are just a super nice guy,probably 1 of the nicest I have ever met here,did you ever get that disc art yet?

also you upped the 14 GB ESB file right,is it that much better than the AVCHD?

Thanks DM,those delay settings worked fine.

I am not sure of what route yet to take,the retail versions of this set are done,they have been done.

just messin with other sound options is all.

and I thank you for your comments and suggestions,all are very much welcome,so keepum coming LOL.

well I will have to synch the PCM's,they are way off,the sound starts way to soon,so these are not already synched to the GOUT LOL.

ChainsawAsh said:

One thing you will have to watch out for is the combined video and audio bitrate - I tried for months to combine an anamorphic GOUT I made (not cleaned up at all, just anamorphic) with the uncompressed mono WAV, and I kept getting errors until I finally realized that the maximum bitrate was too high.  I don't think you'll run into this problem with 448 AC3, but it may still happen, depending on how high your video bitrate is.

the video bitrate is 6500 average.

I have already been messin with this some and it is looking more and more like I will not be able to add any alternate tracks,not with trying to keep it "Retail" which is kind of what I am shooting for,there is just no room left,they range from 7.21 GB's to 7.73 GB's.

but I made a test DVD of the video with satanika's DD 5.1 track to watch later on.

still tossing around the idea of swapping the "Retail" audio for an upgraded one though,I don't see any problems with that,so is the Belbecous PCM's that much better than what is on the GOUT DVD's already? and I mean a signifiacnt difference,not just a tiny minor one.

satanika said:

done

Thanks just about have them now,so what would you set these at in Soft Encode?

I assume 448 DD 2.0 Surround,but what would you set for the DialNorm?

satanika said:

Belbucus did GOUT-synced PCM tracks from the '93 DC LDs (lol that's a lot of acronyms).

They were what hairy_hen used as a base for his versions, he just made a couple of small edits.

I guess I could put them in a.b.sw also if needed.

if you could please,thorw them up to.

Thank you very

satanika said:

Sure, the standard method

Telecide()
Decimate(5)

can fail (if that's what you meant). But there are lots of settings... On a particular troublesome video I had to use this for example:

Telecide(guide=1, back=1, gthresh=50, vthresh=30)
Decimate(mode=2)

Haven't specifically tried to IVTC sw though.

Please by all means keep the idea's coming,I will probably try everything.

OK I need to know what is everyone's thoughts on the audio?

I will say this,if I upgrade the audio for ANH,then there has to be upgrades for the other 2 as well.

I would like to add the 5.1 audio I just got from satanika if it does not go over in size,as a bonus audio option.

and this Belbecous audio file everyone keeps talking about,is there versions for ALL 3 movies?

So please give me your thoughts on this issue.

I was just originally going to do the video and leave EVERYTHING else on the retail DVD untouched.

I will have new samples soon,the above screens will be deleted,I forgot to set some settings correctly,new samples soon.

g-force said:

DJ,

just to let you know, I'm very excited about this project. I would love to help, but I have to admit that it can only be in a limited capacity, as I have a newborn now, and I just can't devote the kind of time I used to. I think the first step would to be to get the best capture you can, and do the best IVTC job you can, then you'll have something I can help with.

-G

Thanks G,Once I am there I will for sure let you know,won't take to long though.

Thanks satanika.

should have ALL files you posted in an hour or so,Thanks again.

adywan said:

Something is coming..........

Damn it would be nice if Ady finished Return Of The Jedi,now that would be great!

OK ESB is done rendering,the lossless avi 31.2 GB's,and yes it is 3 DVD9's ranging from 7.03 to 7.54 GB's,I will encode ESB tonight,then mux it all together on Monday.

and I have no alternate sound for these,these all have exactly what is on the retail DVD,I would liked to add a different track but have none.

Tobar said:

Aww, you left in the yellow subs. Oh well.

Yes I did,I did not like the huge white subs at all,even g-force said he liked my sub changes,can't please everyone I guess,but I try.

Doctor M said:

Those screenshots are not of the same frame, so comparison is a bit difficult, but, I don't see anything that looks like the work of a deband filter.  Have you checked the cantina scene?  The screenshot you had before of Han's hand has banding.

 

 

 

I tried to get them as close as I could,oh well.

and here are some screens of Han's hand with the GradFun2DBmod filter:

I guess I am in the minority here,I friggin liked this movie a lot.

satanika said:

Doctor M said:

The best way to do make an LFE track would probably be to strip the LFE track from the official 5.1 mix and sync it to the mix you'd like to use.

And that is actually what hairy_hen has done I believe. It is a proper lfe track.
For the comparisons I simply included also a derived lfe to put to to the test.

..

Ok, the methods were 1=active matrix, 2=farina, 3=V.I and the b's were with h_h's lfe... So pretty much what I expected :)

I can make these pretty quickly, 448kbps ac3 ok or is there need for a dts in 768 and/or 1536 kbps?

 

personally I would like 448 ac3 and both the 768 & 1536 DTS,I can always find uses for them,so will you have versions for all 3 films?

also did you see your PM?

Thanks