dark_jedi

So what is the method Belbucus used to get around the "time compression" or whatever it is called on sync'ing the LD's to the GOUT? on side 1 of ESB to me it all looks good, but then WHAM! side 2 is all f***ed up, the LD side has 40561 frames and the GOUT 40586, but the audio drifts waaay out by the end of side 2.

what I am doing since the LD is in sides(5 to be exact) I am making the GOUT into sides as well, and then sync'ing each side, then once done put all back together.

So I NEED help with this or the stereo mixes will still be absent on all releases, also by the way, side 2 is the longest of all sides, I am assuming that the other sides will(I hope anyways) be OK.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Tips? Guides?

This screen is from my capture of LD #1478-80 for the Theatrical Stereo mix of Jedi, it is spelled with 2 ee's as well.

Moth3r said:

Add the subs, then add simulated grain (from a filter such as GrainFactory3) using a transparency mask so that the grain is only applied over the subtitle text.

Could you give an example of this, sounds interesting.

They look pretty damn good in action, but looks like he may change them a little bit so I am holding off on samples, but I like these a lot.

zombie84 said:

I think its awesome that we've now reached the point where we have most of the original sound mixes (good job on the LD captures). Star Wars DVDs are getting interesting again!

WOW, I did not think you were interested in this project from reading the thread on ED3, or maybe just interested in the different audio mixes only.

Added the 35mm Stereo audio to ANH and capturing the LD's as well for ESB and ROTJ Theatrical mixes.

hairy_hen I did not forget about you I will have the 97 SE audio you need from the LD sometime today as well.

So if all goes well, this is what it will be,

ANH
'77 Stereo, 35mm Stereo, hairy_hens 70mm 5.1, '77 mono.

ESB
hairy_hens music-edited 5.1, '93 Stereo, '80 Stereo(if I can get it sync'd that is).

ROTJ
hairy_hens music-edited 5.1, '93 Stereo, '83 Stereo(again if I can get it to sync up).

OH and msycamores great subs!

msycamore said:

I've begun to work on the subs for Jedi now and I'm happy to tell you that they will be much closer to the real ones than I was able to do on SW, (that is if you want me to do them differently, dark_jedi?) cause the subs will be a little taller and appear more wide in the frame than the SW subs you have, I'm also wondering how important you think the positioning is? Because if I place them exactly as they appear on the four caps on the first page they will not be centered in the frame (don't know yet if this is a case of image cropping but I strongly believe it is, all four subs have the same positioning). The Gout Jedi has actually a little more picture-information on both sides when compared to those, haven't checked other sources yet. It could be more pleasing to the eye to have them horizontally centered, just a thought, tell me how you want it...

These are the lines I'm not sure about: 

This bounty hunter is my kind of scum... / ...fearless and inventive. Split up in two or not? if split up, should the second line have an ellipsis?

You may have been a good smuggler... / ...but now you’re Bantha fodder. Should the second line have an ellipsis?

Unfortunately I only have four lines as reference of what I strongly believe are the original subtitles. This is probably a long shot but I thought if I could compare the theatrical Greedo subs as they appear in Star Wars SE with the original Greedo subs and see if the line; Jabba's put a price on your head so large every bounty hunter in the galaxy will be looking for you... appear in one frame instead of it being split in two as it is done usually in the many video versions, and if that line match maybe the only thing they changed for the SE subs was the actual font and not the line-breaks. But then you'll need footage from the theatrical SE ;) dark_jedi said he should look if he could find something for me that could help, otherwise any info or knowledge about it is very welcomed.

 

Well 1 thing is for sure, they will have to be centered in the frame, at least to me they would look terrible on 1 side or the other.

So are you saying you can make the SW subs look better or no? because if so I have not done the rendering yet with the new subs, that is planned for Monday or Sunday night.

OK, so the 5 sided LD is the right one for ESB, is the other one I mentioned for ROTJ the right one?

So how does this sound for the audio extra's, if I can get them to fit.

ANH
'77 Stereo, 35mm Stereo, hairy_hens 70mm 5.1, '77 mono.(I have all 3 and this disc could actually be done real soon, it has also been done using msycamore's sub script)

ESB
hairy_hens music-edited 5.1, '93 Stereo, '80 Stereo(if I can get it sync'd that is).

ROTJ
hairy_hens music-edited 5.1, '93 Stereo, '83 Stereo(again if I can get it to sync up).

thoughts?

Darth Editous said:

DVD rips from the captures...?

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yes, and they no work.

Well the DVD rips from the captures are useless, I get ESB all sync'd up at the start and as soon as Luke is recovering in the med bed talking to scruffy looking nerve hurter it slowly drifts, and by the end it is waaaay out, so I assume I will have to rip from the LD.

But first I need to know if the above mentioned LD's are the ones for sure we need.

OK I have a 2 sided ESB with number 1425-80 manufactured and printed in the USA.

also have 5 sided ESB with number 1425-84 manufactured and printed in the USA.

for Jedi I have,
3 sided(weird this has less sides than ESB) with number 1478-80 manufactured and printed in the USA.

it does not say what city they were pressed in, or I just can't see it LOL.

so are any of these correct?

also if this is anything I found Star Wars # 1130-84

Well I found the top 2 LD's and my DVD's of both, hopefully I can get what I need form the DVD's, my LD capping equipment is not hooked up to my PC right now.

also I am certain I HAVE those LD's, just wish I had a cover image so I can start digging around to find them, would be a lot easier to see the cover than to try and read for an item number.

and chances are I already have it ripped and to DVD.

I am already working with msycamore and have his subs included in g-forces latest script and already finished, but we need the subs for Jedi, which we are working on now.

captainsolo said:

I agree-especially about theatrical stereo mixes for Empire and Jedi. I don't think I've ever heard them. It's nice to finally be able to get away from the 93 mixes.

So which Laserdisc set has these stereo mixes, I am sure I have them( I have all NTSC LD's) but not sure which LD's they are, if you know which ones they are and can post an image of the covers and info I can look into getting them.

ChainsawAsh said:

 Is it better than DarkJedi's GOUT restoration?

 

You really can't just say it is mine LOL, g-force, hairy_hen, satanika, Moth3r, and others helped me make that available, working on version 3 now.

hairy_hen so your 5.1 mix will be different than satanika's?

and if you are going to do ESB then I will wait on pushing these out, because I am interested in that to.

you also mention a previous version of Jedi, is this available? love to have options.

Is the '77 Dolby Stereo mix available online anywhere?

Mielr said:

 

but fixing the music-editing mistakes in ESB would be great. That would be my one suggestion.

 

I have no experience in audio editing, so if you have a link to this audio already done I could add it.

g-force, I am not rushing you in any way, shape or form, but do you have any idea at all when we might see the ROTJ script being final, whether it be a few days, a month, whatever?

Thanks man just want to keep these together, but if it is going to be a pretty long time yet then I can slow down a bit on finishing these 2.

So you are not interested in hairy_hens new 70mm mix, or the 5.1 upmix of hairys new mix?

also give me ideas for all 3, or I could just keep them the same as what they are already.

So what audio options would you guys like to see in these?

I need input so I can start gathering what is needed.

OK Thanks to Dr. M I have fixed my issue, I have it encoded and will do some testing in a couple of days and report back, but I believe that that both the 2.0 and 5.1 files will be just fine, sound wise and volume wise.

Doctor M said:

Soft Encode has a so called "dying bug" that can occur if you canceled a conversion.  Afterward it'll just keep crashing.

The fix is to delete two registry keys:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Sonic Foundry\Soft Encode

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Sonic Foundry\Soft Encode

Remove these and it should start to work again.

HOT DAMN! That worked, although I only had to delete the bottom key, the top was not in there, the local machine one.

Thanks Dr. M

ps. Did you get my email?