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- #1190749
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- The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1190749/action/topic#1190749
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Ha, citing the RT audience score unironically, that’s funny.
I’m guessing you have “valid” data that supports your take on things.
Do you? In general I wouldn’t trust an audience score on a site like that. Which is to say nothing about the reports of concentrated bot reviews. Even if you think there’s no way that could have been the case (because it’s so unbelievable) there was still a campaign to lower its score. Plus the simple fact that hardcore fans that got mad are way more likely to rate the movie on RT than the casual fans who vastly outnumber them. When you consider the high cinema score, it’s starts to paint a different picture.
Even if you’re skeptical of these things, it’s not hard to see how the RT score might be slightly biased in one direction. That considered, it’s weird to use it as proof that a majority of fans disliked the film when that score is basically right in the middle, even with that negative volunteer bias.
So yeah, I think it’s pretty silly to take any stock in the RT audience score, and you doing so did legitimately give me a laugh.
http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2017/12/rotten-tomatoes-the-last-jedi-low-audience-score & https://www.cbr.com/last-jedi-rotten-tomatoes-score-defense/
Found these 2 doing a quick Google search. They were among the top results.
To say that the low audience score for TLJ in RT was hacked by some sort of alt-right group or that it isn’t legit is the same as saying that Disney has payed most critics to give their movies high scores, which isn’t something I believe in, therefore I call both ideas BS.
No need to go full denial mode about most people not liking a movie you like. It just so happens people have different opinions.
And interestingly enough I think that RT is so easily accesible to the casual movie goer that it ends up being one of the most reliable sources for audiences’ scores imo.
PS: I’ve been reading what I wrote over and over before posting and I don’t know how to phrase it better but it just isn’t making any sense to me and I don’t know how to improve it. If anything’s incohesive or incoherent, I’m sorry.
I never said it was hacked, and obviously RT would deny any claims of weirdness. What I’m arguing is not hard to believe. Even if you put aside the possibility that people made bots, even if you pretend there wasn’t a campaign to give the movie a low score, the simple fact of the matter is that you can’t trust an audience score on a site like RT. Due to its voluntary nature, there is a bias towards people with extreme negative reactions trying to make a statement. When you take a franchise like Star Wars, with a controversial movie like this, that just exacerbates the bias. Then there’s the very high critic score, which only makes people with the opposite opinion want to make their voices heard even more.
All of which is to say, the negative voices are the majority on the RT audience score by 3%. It’s pretty sill to pretend that there’s no possible way that even 4% of that could have been due to the inherent biases in RT’s method of scoring. So to me, when someone says that that’s “proof” that the majority of audiences disliked the movie, I do have to laugh a bit.
And it has nothing to do with the fact that I like the movie. I really don’t care if a majority or minority disagrees with me, that’s not going to change my opinion. I’d be arguing the same thing if the situation were reversed, that being it’s ridiculous to put any stock into an easily gamed score, especially when there’s other scores that paint a different picture.
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