ZigZig said:

Ronster said:

…stuff we have not seen before.

Maybe something like a calibrated monitor?

It’s a ZigZing

DuracellEnergizer said:

dahmage said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

★★★★★★★★★☆

That good eh? How highly did you rate season 1 and 2? (I haven’t time to watch season 3 yet)

I rated them both highly — Season 2 a little less than Season 1 — but I’m due to revisit them.

Ok, so more of the same basically? (And that is a good thing)

DuracellEnergizer said:

★★★★★★★★★☆

That good eh? How highly did you rate season 1 and 2? (I haven’t time to watch season 3 yet)

Jay said:

dahmage said:

Continued from https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1251447/action/topic#1251447

In regards to the would warnings work question from Jay:

I’m going to be honest I’m pretty sure I didn’t receive any official warnings.

and yes I do think some official warnings would have stopped it but I also believe that most people expect that warnings apply for small periods of time.

for example if I get more than one month and then again another month I don’t really see that as a total of two warnings for the same incident.

(I’m not being snarky with these questions, just to be clear. I really want to understand.)

You don’t view warnings to other members for a particular behavior as applying to you as well? Warning Frink many times for snark didn’t make you think doing the same would be a problem?

In a word, no. Certainly not for something as common and generally unharmful as snark.

And you don’t see warnings as having a cumulative effect over time? Because we definitely keep track (more or less, not like an official tally, but more of a “this member has definitely been warned multiple times for this” sort of thing).

Not for minor things like this. Serious things, sure.

There’s a fundamental disconnect between how we view warnings and how you do. If a mod says, “Please don’t do X”, it’s not a request to stop doing it for a while and then permission to start up again later.

Interesting.

Again, for things that aren’t really serious… In other words: Some people are snarky. I don’t expect to be banned from a site just because over a period of months or years it got out of hand several times.

Continued from https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1251447/action/topic#1251447

In regards to the would warnings work question from Jay:

I’m going to be honest I’m pretty sure I didn’t receive any official warnings.

and yes I do think some official warnings would have stopped it but I also believe that most people expect that warnings apply for small periods of time.

for example if I get more than one month and then again another month I don’t really see that as a total of two warnings for the same incident.

Ronster said:

Excuse me but I have not been trolling anyone… You ass

(Ronster, i hope you realize this post is purely for the out of context-ness of it. i mean you no harm)

Jay said:

bkev said:

^This is very true. I remember even thinking ~6years ago that we could have been much more welcoming to new users. Although I never felt it myself, I definitely did see a certain amount of hazing going on throughout the forum. That’s where our agreements end, full stop.

BUT that does not excuse how you continually abuse your power and borderline bully those who disagree with you.

As someone who has at previous points decried Off Topic’s tomfoolery led by OT’s very own Rat Pack, I have to admit–the more moderated the forums, the less fun it got. And I think it has to do with the appearance of a certain administrator more than mods asking people to, God forbid, follow the rules. The attitude I’ve seen from Jay, who admittedly is not alone in such awful behavior, is extremely off-putting. In all honesty, in other than most recent outbursts that were the final straw causing the bans, it seemed like everyone was on the run from him. And that’s no way to treat people who came to a community you run to talk about the stuff they care about. This place was legitimately, much better when you didn’t give a shit about it.

Just a lurker’s two cents. In short, to Jay:

ChainsawAsh said:

Jeaus fucking Christ. The lack of self awareness on display here is astounding.

Please explain how I abuse my power.

Perhaps a list of those I’ve banned because we had a difference of opinion? (That would be a short list…as in zero.) Maybe links to posts I’ve made outside the political discussions that are combative without cause (aside from threads like these where I’ve spent at least a decade being told I’m a Nazi, bully, etc.)? I freely admit to being hostile sometimes in the political threads, which was, as you noted, not unique to me in any way. Remove the admin badge from the bottom of my posts and they fit right in with all the rest. Yet somehow, I’m abusive and hostile and everyone else is a victim.

Everyone on this forum has been given great latitude over the years, especially as it pertains to criticizing the mods and myself. We tighten up the rules to get some of you under control (because some of you were totally out of control) and of course we start hearing these accusations of abuse, censorship, etc. And it was from everyone I’d expect. It happened during the first “purge” with Dayv, boon, Warb, et al. and it’s happening again today with the Rat Pack, as you call it. They’re smug and hostile in the politics threads and when they get the same in return, they cry, “Abuse! Acting this way is beneath you!”

That last bit is probably true…replying to some of you in kind is beneath me and maybe I shouldn’t do it, but at the very least, it makes those of you criticizing me for it hypocrites.

These accusations of abuse, as always, are completely baseless. Despite 15 years of posts that prove I’ve never banned anyone because they engaged in a debate with me, these accusations will continue because so many of you are happy to play the victim and position me as your big bully.

Feeling bullied isn’t the same as being bullied.

This place was legitimately, much better when you didn’t give a shit about it.

Thanks in particular for that.

chyron8472 said:

Jay, I really wish you could be more introspective and actually consider a measure of criticism as valid instead of altogether being defensive and dismissive of it. If enough people are saying that you make a habit of being arrogant and/or a jerk, there may be truth to it even if they way the say it is tactless and unkind.

I don’t know what else to say, if you’re unwilling to accept any measure of wrongdoing.

I’ve thought about it a lot. The problem is that I’ve reached a different conclusion than you have and I’m not going to cater to those of you who I believe will never be happy unless I change my personality to suit you. You might as well ask Dom to be less smug or mfm to be more cheerful. I’m kind of a dick sometimes and that’s just the way it is.

Maybe some of you would be happier at TFN, SW.com, or any number of other forums. I’m sure they’d allow those of you who’ve been oppressed here to post without fear of being bullied, as you freely criticize the mods and admins without any repercussions.

How many post reports did you personally submit because you were being bullied by Frink, Possessed, and whoever else? Who was it that stuck up for you when you were new here? Your new “friends”? Nope. The mods and I did. My arrogant ass stepped in when the Rat Pack found its new punching bag.

I return politeness and respect in kind. I also return smugness, condescension, and hostility in kind. Anyone on the receiving end should look in the damn mirror.

Those who’ve shared their criticisms in, as you put it, a tactless or unkind manner, can fuck right off.

Jay,

you are arrogant though. how else are we to read this?

I return politeness and respect in kind. I also return smugness, condescension, and hostility in kind. Anyone on the receiving end should look in the damn mirror.

^ that is essentially you absolving yourself of any blame, because someone else is the problem, not you.

and yes, you have never banned someone because they outright agree with you. but you DO call people out on harmless shit in a manner that escalates said shit. case in point, my “cool” comment. it was such a dumb little thing, and look how much you blew it up? sure, you didn’t ban me, but you banning people for what they say isn’t the complaint. The complaint is that when you post, your ‘admin power’ is absolutely a factor to be concerned about. Had a more level-headed mod stepped it (That means one not involved in the interaction) i would have expected some level of tactful warning or reminder to keep it civil, etc. because we know that humans post things that they might rethink later. but that is NOT the way you do things, you escalate.

(all of this is my opinion)

Spuffure said:

Sorry for (possibly) necroing an old thread but I’m not so sure which new thread would be the best to create.

These ideas are as follows:

1. Worst movies you have ever seen
2. Best movies you have ever seen
3. Most handsome/beautiful actors/actresses
4. Film scenes that completely ruin the film
5. Awful plot twists
6. Most annoying film characters

Thanks. 😃

4 5 or 6, in that order.

Ok, it almost sounds like we are doubling down on hostility again…

Jay said:

dahmage said:

my name is dahmage, you can call me out by name.

I wasn’t trying to avoid confronting you. I just didn’t want to draw you in not knowing if you wanted to be involved in the discussion.

Ok, I understand.

my name is dahmage, you can call me out by name.

https://altonbrown.com/pasta-with-roasted-cauliflower-recipe/

Except this time I added chicken. We’ll see how it turns out that last time it was the bomb.

Jay said:

I don’t know what I’m going to do to resolve this conflict between contributor and admin, but I know it’s something I need to address.

I don’t know the answer either but I’m glad to see it is something you are planning to figure out.

If running this site really is a drag on you maybe you need to have an admin team.

The closing line was especially uncalled for as were some of the other things Calypso said.

All I know is that the seemingly nonsensical locking of the ot.com debate thread seem to be the flashpoint.

Collipso my friend I think you might have gone a little overboard there.

you weren’t wrong but you weren’t exactly right either.

snooker said:

I like fan editing too much to up and leave, but this whole thing stinks.

This feels like the snap from Infinity War.

Intriguing comparison.

Does this mean we have to wait until April to find out?

Jay said:

dahmage said:

some guy created one and posted about it only a week or two ago, but i can’t seem to find it. probably deleted

Some guy being a new member with a single post using our logo, which made it look official. Sounds legit.

I have a server set up, but haven’t posted the invite link yet because I tend to think it’s just going to be a real-time Off Topic section.

Well I didn’t remember the details I just knew someone had posted something.

What’s the point of having an off-topic session if it can’t be a little crazy?

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’m not leaving, but I think I’ll be posting less frequently from now on.

Yeah like I said I’ll see. I’m not stating that I’m leaving either but I am sad to see so many interesting people leave

Yeah I don’t know if there’s much point in me being around if most of the people I like to hang out with aren’t around either we shall see.

Warbler said:

dahmage said:

Warbler said:

snooker said:

At least he died saving what he loves, not fighting what he hates.

I know that is reference to something, but what?

Warbler, you need to watch “The Last Jedi”

I did watch it.

Okay. Then you need to watch it and watch it and watch it until you recognize that line no matter where it’s posted 😃

DuracellEnergizer said:

Warbler said:

snooker said:

At least he died saving what he loves, not fighting what he hates.

I know that is reference to something, but what?

The Last Jedi.

[JEDIT]

dahmage beat me to the punch.

fixed

Warbler said:

snooker said:

At least he died saving what he loves, not fighting what he hates.

I know that is reference to something, but what?

Rose Tico says it in

Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Warbler said:

snooker said:

At least he died saving what he loves, not fighting what he hates.

I know that is reference to something, but what?

Warbler, you need to watch “The Last Jedi”