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#903965
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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Ronster said:

^This sounds like a mix with more in it…

Thanks for the heads up 😃

Just managed to pick up the old DVD by Hemdale (Independant) Barebones with trailer and original Sound mix.

I am now Happy 😃

actually this is an image of a bootleg release but I got the real snapper case version. check the barcode 😃

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49-OwLEXbtg

Awesome! I’m pleased to say I still have my Image DVD because I don’t think the mono has ever sounded better on DVD then this release! 😃 One more bit I forgot. On the MGM mono there’s some ‘scuffling’ sounds when the Terminator leaps from the burning truck. This is only faintly heard in the standard mono.

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#902631
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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I dont know if this has been discussed but there appears to be some slight differences in the mono mix included on the MGM DVDs and the mono mix included on the pre 2001 releases. This is mostly noticeable during the Police station massacre but it occurs in a few other scenes. For the sake of discussion I’ll refer to the mix on the MGM DVD as ‘MGM mono’ and the other mix as ‘standard mono’. Heres what Ive noticed so far.

  1. ‘Clinking’ noise when the store clerk pulls the Uzi 9mm off the shelf. This is missing on the standard mono and the 5.1 mix.
  2. Some machine gun fire heard in the background is missing during the police station massacre. First is when Traxler locks Sarah in his office. In the standard mono after he says ‘stay here’, we hear ‘ratatatatat tatat’ (closes door). In the MGM mono, we hear ‘stay here’ ‘ratatatatat’ (closes door). No ‘tatat’. Second is after the power is cut and it cuts to the officer in the interrogation room peaking through the blinds of the window and then runs to the door. Machine gun fire in the background when he runs to the door is missing on the MGM mono.
  3. When the Terminator cuts the power in the Police station, the sound of the emergency lights coming on is much louder on the MGM mono.
  4. A bit hard to notice but it sounds like some noise is missing when Reese rams the officer into the door of the interrogation room before knocking him out. The standard mono and 5.1 sound mostly identical in this instance.
  5. ‘Clinking’ noise when it cuts to Sarah crawling underneath Traxler’s desk to hide is present on MGM mono.
  6. On the standard mono, the sound of the Terminators motorcycle cuts in about a second before the fadeout to Reese and Sarah’s love scene cuts to the Terminator on the bike. On both the MGM mono and the 5.1 mix, this doesnt happen and the fadeout to the love scene just cuts to the Terminator on the bike.
  7. After Sarah goes ‘No! Kyle!’ but before she says ‘Come on!’ when he momentarily collapses after powering up the machines at Cyberdyne, on the MGM mono we can clearly hear a bang at the door (Terminator trying to get in). This is only faintly heard on the standard mono.
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#902223
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Frankenstein (1931) Audio Preservation (Released)
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Leonardo said:

Have a listen to this and tell me what you think. I took your comparisons, isolated the vhs audio and slowed it down to where it would sync, and applied careful noise reduction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDv-EZa_us

I like this a lot. Better then the BluRay anyways. Might wanna adjust the pitch if you can although I assume that that was a result of you getting the synching right. Still nice job! Fortunately Im in talks with someone over at FanRes.com to capture the audio from the 1993 LD from Japan so hopefully I’ll have that soon. 😃

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#899763
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Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015
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TV’s Frink said:

towne32 said:

TV’s Frink said:

towne32 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

How do you know the 4k restoration was abandoned? We had official press about the cancellation of the 3D release, but nothing official that the 3D would be based on a new scan or that this scan was for the 3D.

I have no idea if they were abandoned or not, obviously.

ANOTHER TEAM MEMBER REVEALED

But you forgot to say “we.”

Wait, so everyone except team negative members know if it was abandoned? If you tell them the answer does it quit them from the team?

Wait…that’s brilliant! I can’t wait to quit them all from the team!

Brb.

Does this mean if were bad we’re back on the team??? Then again I wasnt on any team so shoot me.

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#899357
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Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015
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SilverWook said:

crissrudd4554 said:

TV’s Frink said:

Not sure that was necessary…

I’ll have to agree. Its an online community people not Alcatraz. Sure we may not share the same views all the time folks but lets lower the torches or should I say lightsabers??

Then why have I been building an escape raft out of raincoats? 😉

Because the escape canoe gives splinters

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#899134
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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I found this a bit interesting. Heres a few quotes from Van Ling, who was involved in the creation of T1’s 5.1 mix, and also pushed for the mono track to be included on the MGM SE DVD. I guess hes been outvoted on subsequent releases.

" a new sound mix a nice, true 5.1 We even had composer Brad Fiedel come back in and remix his music masters, and MGM hired Gary Rydstrom at Skywalker to do the overall remix on my recommendation. So MGM really put their money where their mouth was on this title."

" Yeah, the movie was mono originally. And there were a number of faux-stereo things out there. In my discussions with Lightstorm and talking with Cameron about it, we would always say that it would be cool to have something in stereo, but only if it was done right;and doing it right require some diligence, because you want to stay true to the mix and stay true to the balance that people have come to expect. But at the same time, you want to broaden the soundtrack a little bit. You don’t want to do something that is totally different because maybe part of the appeal was a way it sounded in mono. And that’s one of the things that was really important and one of the things that led Jim to say, “If you’re going to do it, do it right.” Its not just a matter of panning the mono right and left like some of the earlier faux-stereo mixes. And if I have my way on the disk configuration, MGM will also include the original mono audio as a separate track for the real purists."

Another one from over a year ago where he even says he prefers the mono.

“A tough question, but I think I lean towards the mono just because it was the original. I was the producer of the initial remix done by the great Gary Rydstrom back in 2000, and while I think he did an excellent job, there is something monolithic yet raw about the original mono mix that fits the film. Also, we found out later that there was a glaring omission in the remix, which was the metallic sounds—almost like that of a sword being drawn from a scabbard—of the letters in the title sliding past each other in the main titles. It turned out that the reason they were missing in the remix was that they were not on either the sound effects or the music masters for the film… they were on the dialogue stems for some reason. And those stems had been muted during the remix since there was no dialogue during the main titles! Lame explanation, but true.”

One more from 2011.

“I plead not guilty! I had nothing to do with the release of the Blu-ray version of Terminator – even though the publisher included part of my bonuses off the DVD edition. You may remember, when this disk was released in 2006, there were so many problems with the Blu-ray format (which was not ready and was rushed to avoid HD-DVD taking its place), that the programmers cut the discs down to the bare minimum. I don’t understand why they cut out the bonuses. Probably to save space…. They only used an extract of my documentary. Why not use it all? Well, it’s all in the past, a new HD digital restoration of the film, re-mastered using the original negative has been launched. I will do my utmost to ensure that the original mono mixing is on it, all the old bonuses incorporated and include new ones, such as unseen TV trailers for example or live BD extras. It should also include a bonus tribute to Stan Winston. We were in the process of working on it last year when we had to stop following MGM’s financial problems. So, for the time being the project is mothballed.”

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#898297
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Ranking the Terminator films (or: The Terminator or Judgment Day)
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T1- Arnold is more badass as a villain IMO
T2- Epic sequel with epic effects
T3- Felt a little short but ehh it was ok
TG- Havent seen it but Arnolds return, for better or worse, is enough for me rank it over TS
TS- Saw it once on TV and ehh didnt grab me much. The concept of having a main character who later discovers hes a machine but not Terminator for me was confusing. CGI Arnold was fake a hell

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#898259
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Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015
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Im not saying I feel ultra positive a OUT release will happen but I will say that lately Im having a good feeling about it. I say this since Lucasfilm/Disney have yet to say ANYTHING regarding a OUT restoration. Keep in mind that the sale to Disney was in 2012 and we still yet to hear something. I dont think Lucasfilm/Disney would be so quiet on the subject if it at least wasnt being considered. Im not saying Lucasfilm/Disney is the same way but at least when Lucas was in charge he was straight up and said they wouldnt be released. Now with him out of the way Im not sure. And as someone noted above the fact that the original cut was requested by Disney from the LOC only adds to my feeling on the matter.

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#897839
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Frankenstein (1931) Audio Preservation (Released)
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Yep I do find the VHS version pleasing. As I mentioned the tape I had digitized was viewed only once or twice so it came out a bit better than expected. Funny I didnt start noticing the audio differences until afterwards and was actually amazed how IMO the VHS sounded better than my DVD. The missing bits I pointed out in the second video have been missing since 2004. When Universal announced for its 100th anniversary that it would be doing a major restoration overhaul on many of its titles, including Dracula and Frankenstein, I was hoping this would finally be fixed. It was not to be. They again used the same flawed track thats been in use since 2004. Very sad. On the other hand, I give them a thumbs up for what they did visually with the film. I will say the BD is probably the best Frankenstein has ever looked.

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#897625
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Frankenstein (1931) Audio Preservation (Released)
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Hello, I was curious if anyone has considered preserving the audio for Frankenstein (1931). For starters I am quite displeased with the audio mix on the BluRay since IMO it is a bit flat and muffled. Also theres portions of the sound track missing. This is also the mix used on every DVD release since 2004.

About two years ago I had sent someone the audio tracks from the VHS’ of Dracula and Frankenstein which he was going to sync up to the BD. I messaged him a few times and he said he was working on it and finally said it would be ready by Halloween 2014. As far as I know the project wasnt completed and I havent heard from him since (if you the one Im speaking of are reading this, understand Im not calling you out since I know people get sidetracked with other projects).

Which brings me to here. After doing some comparisons, I realized that my 1991 VHS copy while a bit hissy sounds crisper than the BD. However the VHS may not be the best source. The copy was only viewed once or twice by the time it was digitized so it still came out pretty good but some scenes may have some VHS crackle and there was one minor glitch in one scene which actually isnt all that noticeable but might stand out when trying to sync to the BD. I noticed that the VHS is actually going at a somewhat faster pace than the BD. The exact fps I do not know. I believe the guy who was working on this said he was having a bit difficulty with the syncing. Please keep in mind Im no expert when it comes to syncing audio tracks which is why I seek everyones help.

So perhaps another source is in order. Does anyone by any chance have the 1987 ‘restored’ Laserdisc and might consider digitizing it? Since the 1987 ‘restored’ VHS uses the same print as the 1991 VHS, maybe the Laserdisc would be the best source. A headsup though. This ‘restored’ print is missing the line ‘Now I know what it feels like to be God’, a line that was restored circa 1999 and hence on the BD. Whether to restore this line to the Laserdisc mix or just leave the line censored will have to be discussed.

Anyways below are two comparison videos I made some 2-3 years ago. The first I wanted to point out that I feel the VHS sounds crisper while the other points out the missing bits. Leave some comments and hopefully we can make something of this. Understand that I respect all opinions so lets be on the same page everyone.

https://vimeo.com/56206935

https://vimeo.com/57318682

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#897616
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The Terminator (1984) - Original Theatrical Mono Preservation (Released)
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Chaz’s Dungeon said:

I am new here, I was wondering where the download link was to the mono sound of The Terminator, since I live in England you can’t get the mono sound on dvd. You can only get it if you have the laserdisc or the original VHS, I’ve heard that if you have a region 1 copy then you get the mono version, however I live in the UK so I cannot get it. So my main question is were is the download link so I can burn the mono onto my dvd?

I believe theres a link on this threads first page