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#241248
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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Originally posted by: vote_for_palpatine
Understand that while I much prefer the OT, I can watch (and enjoy to an extent) the PT. I'm probably not alone in thinking that there were elements missing from the PT which would have made it better.

Here's a small list:

An angry, ill-tempered Darth Maul. For a young Sith apprentice, he sure was composed and serene. Why wouldn't he be bubbling cauldron of anger?

Episode I - Anakin at 19-20 years old. As millions of fans have observed many times.

Anakin sparring with Obi-Wan. Lucas loves the obvious foreshadowing - why not this?

Anything else?


1) An arc running across all three movies. I'm not talking about "one event that happens in this time frame" then skipping ahead a few years, I mean a single stretch of time (3 to 5 years) that runs across all three films and sets up Anakin's distrust in the Jedi Council and his subsequent betrayal. Not this stupid stuff in II and III where he's some whiny petulant teenager who essentially turns to the dark side of the Force after 3.5 seconds of thought.
2) To quote a certain poster on this board, NO FRIGGIN' MIDICHLORIANS.
3) Not having random planets like Naboo or Mustafar that show up in one or two films and are completely disregarded in the OT (although Lucas tried to rectify this in the 2004 release, it's still out-of-place). Stick to an established OT planet or use something from the EU.
4) Try to set up the events in the OT throughout all three films instead of jamming 30 different plot contrivances in the last hour of Revenge Of The Sith. It smacks of lazy writing.
5) Comic relief works...in small doses. Having a clearly buffoonish character who speaks in a silly accent is a terrible distraction to the plot.
6) Wasting numerous supporting characters like Count Dooku (guy's a lightsaber master and has, what, two short fights?), Ki-Adi Mundi, Chewbacca (WHY???????? WHY?!?!?), Shmi Skywalker (sits around and talks, then gets kidnapped, raped, and dies), Chancellor Valorum, Mon Mothma (how do you waste someone as important as her?), Bail Organa (what, flying a vehicle around is character development?) and others.
7) Have Anakin feel a distrust about Obi-Wan even when he first meets him, instead of them being all buddy-buddy throughout I, II and part of III.
8) Build UP the suspense! Don't have a plot about a massive potentially damaging clone war and suddenly side-track it to focus on picnics in the grass.
9) Show the seeds of the Rebellion being sown, even in TPM. Have a group of splinter Jedi or Council members harbouring a distrust of the government and alluding to bad things that Palpatine has done, but no one will listen, or something to that effect.
10) No Jar-Jar Binks. Or Gungans, for that matter.
11) Show more of the Jedi Order, instead of a bunch of bored Jedi sitting around in a circle debating current issues.
12) Stop distilling the prequels with characters who show up for 5 minutes, give plot exposition and disappear. It should focus on a smaller group of principal characters.
13) Don't skip the Clone War (and no, I don't count the Clone Wars cartoon as SW canon, even though I like the series as a whole)
14) Stop relying on CGI to make a point. Having a good plot is just as important as trying to showcase the latest advances in computer technology. And what, no miniatures?
15) Have Vader be introduced somewhat sooner (perhaps in the earlier part of the third film) and give him MORE TO DO, instead of having him stand around like Frankenstein 2.0 and screaming out for his wife in a silly voice.

That's about it, I think.
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#239641
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Star Trek gets better treatment than Star Wars...
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Originally posted by: Cable-X1

You know, I could talk about the sheer idiocy of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga, or how the latter ST series have radically changed in tone from the original series, but I'll just say "apples and oranges".


Please dude...dont' turn the thread into a knockfest on the quality of Trek in its various forms.


Well, you brought up a point I didn't agree with (the quality of the show in it's latter incarnations), but my intention was not to do anything of the sort.
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#239248
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Star Trek gets better treatment than Star Wars...
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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
Check out this story at The Digital Bits...

Linky

It turns out that CBS Video, as part of their high-definition remastering of The Original Series, IS giving a lot of the special effects shots a new CG face-lift! Specifically, they're re-doing all of the spaceship shots. This to me is a very exciting idea... in principle. As anyone who saw the Mirror Universe episodes of Star Trek: Enterprise will tell you, the old TOS ships look awfully damn good in new CG. The replicated TOS sets, the original ship designs... rather than looking dated, they actually hold up VERY well by today's standards. Re-doing the effects will give new life to The Original Series and could help it appeal to a new, younger generation of fans. Unlike, say... the Star Wars films... the original versions of these episodes will always be preserved in GREAT remastered quality on DVD. And it would be extremely cool if CBS would release BOTH versions of the episodes on HD-DVD/Blu-ray, such that you can choose which version you wish to watch... the original or the new enhanced version.


There you have it....the original Star Trek series is going to get an SFX overhaul AND the original versions WILL be preserved for all ages on HD.

This is kinda funny when you consider that the creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry, has been dead for 15 years and his creation is still being treated with some dignity.


You know, I could talk about the sheer idiocy of Rick Berman and Brannon Braga, or how the latter ST series have radically changed in tone from the original series, but I'll just say "apples and oranges".
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#239142
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2006 OT DVD: Poll: So What are You Going to Do?
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Originally posted by: calamari
Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
Originally posted by: ESHBG
We are about 2 weeks and some change away, and I was curious as to what people's plans are as of now.


Yes, own the OOT...for the last time...Or, until the 30th Anniversary set comes out or the next inevitable release that incorporates "rare deleted scenes from the Lucasfilm vaults". Yeah, I know numerous people have stated it already, but it's a quick cash grab.


IMO, this is really the last opportunity to buy the OUT on DVD. If they ever do it again, it'll probably be HD-DVD or such.

And, even if I'm wrong, and they do include the OUT in 2007, it'll still be the same discs you'd be getting Sept 12. So what's the advantage to waiting? I already own the PT, so that isn't an incentive for me.


Well, we'll have to wait and see, won't we? I don't have much faith in Lucasfilm's policy. I bought the Faces set about 11 years ago, and it was "the very last time". The only other Star Wars DVD I bought was the bonus disc from the 2004 release. I'm content with what I have. I'll wait for next year's set.
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#239077
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2006 OT DVD: Poll: So What are You Going to Do?
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Originally posted by: ESHBG
We are about 2 weeks and some change away, and I was curious as to what people's plans are as of now.


Yes, own the OOT...for the last time...Or, until the 30th Anniversary set comes out or the next inevitable release that incorporates "rare deleted scenes from the Lucasfilm vaults". Yeah, I know numerous people have stated it already, but it's a quick cash grab.
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#238494
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Star Tours, Muppet*vision 3-D, Terminator 3-D, Back to the Future - The Ride, Captain EO, etc (Some Project Releases)
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Originally posted by: maurice2029
About T2-3D, I know a workprint version exist. I have seen parts of that myself. If someone could get a hold of that workprint in DVD format, many people would be happy... but where can find one that workprint?


That would be the most ghetto thing ever. I saw that thing 2 years ago, and it's still one of the best motion-simulator/3D rides I've ever been on.
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#237851
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Apocalypse Now - Workprint (now available) (Released)
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Originally posted by: auximenies
Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
That's funny, considering that it's his WIFE that edited the documentary.


Not true. Although Eleanor Coppola filmed the on-the-set footage and provided the narration, she had nothing to do with the finished film. Directors Fax Bahr & George Hickenlooper no doubt made the editing decisions (which were executed by Michael Greer & Jay Miracle).


Ah, my mistake. I was always under the impression that she had full control over the editing process.
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#237152
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Apocalypse Now - Workprint (now available) (Released)
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Originally posted by: guiltyspark
Originally posted by: OgOggilby
Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
Interesting. I bought the "Complete Dossier" today, and I was surprised at how sparse the extras were. Sure, there's a couple interesting features, but no workprint or "Hearts Of Darkness" were included. That sucks. I'd be interested in obtaining a copy of the workprint, and I have stuff from here I could trade, I guess.


Although, it does have some of the deleted scenes from the workprint. Even the quality on the official DVD is lacking... obviously a 1970s U-matic with a timecode. One scene is presented newly mastered, but it's heavily damaged and partially faded.


Did anyone have luck getting ahold of the additional "bonus disc" from Circuit City which was in their ad last week? It was suppose to include an additional 20mins of deleted/extended scenes.


It's all the stuff that was on the original release of AN: Redux, minus the excerpts from the theatrical program, I think. I haven't watched it yet, but I have it. My disc says:

Added Scenes and Expanded Themes of AP: Redux
Destruction of the Kurtz Compound with Optional Commentary
1979 and 2001 Theatrical Trailers
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#236507
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Dawn Of The Dead Ultimate Edition Volume 2-UPDATE Discs 1-4 (Released)
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Originally posted by: DarthCarr
samhain@coolmail.net is the guy's email address I can't get through to. He has Dawn of the Dead Composite Edit. Any tries to email him,you might get through.




Well, I shot an e-mail to him using my GMail account. We'll see what happens.

You might want to think about organizing the material so that there are no redundancies. Sure, all these specials and documentaries are excellent, but are people going to watch them if they just reiterate the same points over and over?
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#236215
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Dawn Of The Dead Ultimate Edition Volume 2-UPDATE Discs 1-4 (Released)
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Originally posted by: DarthCarr
klokwerk,That cover is AWESOME. Tho I think both commentarys are for the Extended Edition,and of course,we don't know if The Ulimate Cut will be included.

So anyone wanna post at HomepageoftheDead wanting some more materials? I tried,but it keeps saying I need cookies :/ I have cookies. So any takers?


I'll do it, but I have to work right now, so I'll try a bit after. Of course, that shouldn't stop anyone from leading the "charge", so to speak.
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#236126
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Dawn Of The Dead Ultimate Edition Volume 2-UPDATE Discs 1-4 (Released)
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This is a very interesting project. I looked around to see if I could find any material you could use, and I had a couple suggestions, but if it would be too big for the disc, that's okay. I found a BBC special on Mininova called "Forbidden: George Romero and the Dawn Of The Dead". I'm not exactly sure whether it reiterates most of the points already covered in the other documentaries, or if I can even get it (no seeders), but I will try to find out.

Another thing that might be useful (and I'm not sure if it was already included on the previous DVD release) is the original treatment Romero did for the film, which was something like 4 hours worth of scenes in a 300+ page script. It's readily available on the net (like here for example) and would be useful for completists who want to know everything about Romero's original vision.

I found a couple of text interviews with Scott Reiniger and Romero here (it's under the "Interviews" section). The webmaster of that site also seems to know about the beginning narration of the Japanese version (the cut that freezes out violent parts), so I will e-mail him asking whether he can send me a copy of the cut or if he can provide me with the beginning narration. Since this cut wasn't even screened in the U.S. (at least, I don't believe so), it would be a seriously collectible item, and whatever info I can dig up on it, it would be of interest to fans.

I will compile everything I can find for a DVD_ROM section.