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#1086263
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Speaking of severed hands, I couldn’t help but notice the wampa’s right hand is missing in the photo. Might this hint at the inclusion of a newly-added scene in which we see Luke slice off the wampa’s hand while making his escape?

Possibly…

But I suspect this is really a clue to a much larger secret which Ady has planned, namely that he has filmed an entirely new ending for ESB:R, in which Luke, while sitting in the medical bay having his robotic hand attached, looks over to the next bed and sees the wampa, itself receiving a new artificial appendage. The two then forge a connection, turning their shared disabilities into the basis for a long-lasting friendship, which leads us into Ady’s new spin-off buddy cop series: “Luke & the Wampa: Hoth Patrol.”

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#1080693
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Doomsday Thread
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generalfrevious said:

none of you dare try to stop me from expressing my pain.

Here’s a book you might enjoy

Edit: I posted before seeing Jay’s post, so in all seriousness allow me to add this: you’re of course entitled to your opinions frevious, however your worldview is terribly American-centric. You’re equating the state of American politics with the fate of the universe, which is a tad hyperbolic. If Trump’s presidency is weighing so heavily on you, try changing the proverbial channel; read about what’s going on elsewhere in the world. See what other countries are doing to have a positive impact on the planet. And let’s not pretend that Trump’s actions will necessarily affect the mindset and goals of other Americans:

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/870496614879711232?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

https://mobile.twitter.com/billpeduto/status/870370288344674304?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Lastly, to quote a couple lines from Max Ehrmann’s poem Desiderata:

the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals;
and everywhere life is full of heroism.

With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful.
Strive to be happy.

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#1078291
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Ranking the Alien films
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DominicCobb said:

I guess it depends on what you’re looking for. I quite like the direction he took with these movies (I think the simple “Jaws in space” premise has been played out at this point).

I agree, the premise has been played out, which is why perhaps the best thing to do following Aliens would have been to leave the franchise alone. As for the direction being taken with the last two installments, while I actually love thought-provoking science-fiction, I don’t believe this is really the franchise to be doing it with (at least, to the extent Scott is trying achieve). It’d be like going to an Italian restaurant and getting a burrito — while I love Mexican cuisine, I don’t particularly want it if I’m expecting a nice pasta dinner.

That being said (and at the risk of sounding contradictory), I do feel there is some philosophical depth to the original Alien film, which comes primarily through Ash’s monologue:

Ash: You still don’t understand what you’re dealing with, do you? The perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility.
Lambert: You admire it.
Ash: I admire its purity. A survivor…unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.

A brief, simple scene which succinctly addresses some of the film’s major themes. Is this thing really “evil” simply for following its natural instincts? Are we better than it or more deserving of survival simply because of our sense of morality? Similar to Predator, which asks us to consider the ethics of hunting if the tables were reversed, Alien asks us to consider our worthiness for survival in the face of a potentially superior force of nature. Unlike the Alien prequels, however, it doesn’t beat the audience over the head with it for the better part of the film’s running time.

I hope I’m not coming across as being combative. I’m not hating on you for liking a film I personally don’t. I’m just trying to explain where I’m coming from (maybe as much to myself as anyone).

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#1078281
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Ranking the Alien films
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DominicCobb said:

In my mind you can’t really take Prometheus/Covenant as “Alien” films. They very clearly don’t fit in that way. They’re basically their own series that’s simply set in the Alien universe … the Prometheus/Covenant films are far more interested in philosophical and thematic ideas that don’t have a whole lot to do with the Alien films proper. Honestly, at the core of these films, I think they share far more with Blade Runner, despite their Alien packaging.

I agree with you, and therein lies the problem: if Scott wanted to explore the philosophical issues surrounding biological vs. synthetic life and the desire for creation, he should have made a Blade Runner film, not an Alien film. This guy was spot on in his assessment:

From http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/alien-covenant-is-actually-a-blade-runner-sequel-disguise-1005606

Here, and throughout Covenant, the film is less reminiscent of Alien than it is of Blade Runner.

Fassbender is the best part of Covenant, while also representing its worst impulse, which is to be an Alien movie in name only.

by making Covenant about David, it suggests that Scott’s interests lie well beyond the Xenomorphs.

If anything, watching Fassbender in Covenant suggests that maybe Ridley Scott would have been better served to direct a sequel to Blade Runner as opposed to just producing the upcoming Blade Runner 2049.

As for the exposition surrounding the xenomorphs in Prometheus and Covenant, this same writer mirrors my thoughts exactly. From http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/alien-covenant-alien-prequel-explains-plot-more-original-1005631

with Covenant in theaters, it’s worth discussing one of many reasons why the original Alien succeeds, because it’s a big reason why (for me at least) Covenant doesn’t: it embraces the mystery of the situation instead of explaining everything.

Yes, Covenant provides answers; however, the answers it provides are unsatisfying, in no small part because the best Alien movies don’t hinge on answering questions. These movies are at their best when providing intense thrills.

The best thing that Scott could’ve done was make Prometheus, with one notable exception: not turn it into an Alien prequel. Fassbender is easily the best performer in that film as well as in Covenant, but his story would be more captivating if it wasn’t tied to the Alien mythology. The mythology of Alien is so fascinating because it’s shrouded in mystery

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#1078190
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Explain Your Username / Avatar / Title / Signature
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Username: the homeworld of my favourite Star Wars character + the year I was born

Avatar: a picture of my favourite Star Wars character in my favourite Star Wars outfit

Title: was “Has a smile 12 parsecs wide,” which is a line from Richard Cheese’s (aka Mark Johnathan Davis) parody song Star Wars Cantina

Signature: I’ve had a few over the years, but my current one (“It’s a lot of fun… it’s a lot of fun to watch Star Wars”) is a quote from Bill Moyers. I love this quotation because it cuts through all the BS that sometimes arises in Star Wars fandom and reminds me of why I fell in love with these films in the first place.

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#1078178
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Ranking the Alien films
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  1. Alien: a perfect blend of sci-if, thriller, and horror. I could write an entire dissertation extolling the merits of this film, but suffice to say, it’s a contemporary masterpiece in every sense.

  2. Aliens: while imitative of the original in some ways, this film at least shifts the genre from thriller to action, and in so doing establishes itself as unique. I also appreciate how this film creates a plausible reason for our protagonist to be thrust back into the action (something that plagues most sequels).

After that, it’s a four-way tie for last. Alien 3 was simply depressing, Alien Resurrection was a cartoon, and Prometheus and Covenant suffer from the same problems that plague the Star Wars prequels: aesthetically they do not match up with the preceding films, and narratively they’re unnecessary and uninteresting.

In many ways, it’s like watching a zombie flick; knowing how the infection got started isn’t nearly half as interesting as seeing how people cope with the outbreak. That’s pretty much the case with the Alien prequels — I don’t really need or even want to know how the xenomorphs came into existence, I just want to see how people deal with them.