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Eh, “difficult” is relative. I’ve been playing through the single player story on Veteran and have progressed just fine. But I grew up playing a lot of flight sims (many that were far more complicated and difficult than this). In the world of flight sims, Squadrons is actually rather simplified and pretty easy.

In any case, as it is an actual flight sim and not an arcade shooter, I cannot stress enough how much I highly recommend playing it with an actual joystick. Playing it with a game pad or (God forbid!) a mouse and keyboard significantly hinders the simulator immersion aspect of the game. It’s supposed to make you feel like you’re in the cockpit. And a cockpit has a stick (or yoke, but I digress…).

Squadrons is great, but be aware. It’s not an arcade action shooter like the Rogue Squadron series. It’s a more complicated space flight simulator like the X-wing and TIE Fighter pc games.

SparkySywer said:

Boba Fett also outsmarts Han Solo.

Yeah, I mentioned he sees through Han’s trick

Boba Fett also hears Luke cock his gun, which is a minor cool moment if you notice it.

It’s R2 Fett hears. But yeah, it’s another subtle, but very awesome moment that sheds light on his character.

Cthulhunicron said:

fmalover said:

Strip away all the supplementary material, and judging him exclusively on the movies, I must say Boba Fett is amongst the most overrated characters in Star Wars.

The only thing he has going for him is the undeniably cool looking suit of armour. Apart from that he does absolutely nothing noteworthy, and in TESB they only call him “bounty hunter”, just to show how little Lucas thought about him.

I sincerely don’t understand why he’s so popular with fans as he’s pretty much a nothing character.

I agree, completely. I never really gave Boba Fett much thought when I watched the movies when I was a kid. When I discovered Star Wars fan websites around 1997, I was kind of shocked to find out that he had this massive following.

I understand this view, but I feel like it misses some critical things.

One is the marketing. Boba Fett was introduced multiple times to the public as the “cool new character in the upcoming Star Wars sequel!”. He was in a parade with Darth Vader. He was in the best part of the Holiday Special. He was this exciting mail away figure that was SUPPOSED to have a firing rocket pack. He was cool, new, mysterious, and exciting.

Second, he DOES do some cool stuff in ESB. He actually talks back to Darth Vader. Twice! And he gets away with it! All while imperial officers are dropping like flies for the slightest infractions throughout the movie. Plus he sees through Solo’s trick. He looks AWESOME. He even SOUNDS awesome (adding the spur sound effects to his walk was a stroke of genius). He’s this intimidating, mysterious “Clint Eastwood/man with no name” “strong silent type” guy in a cool armor suit who does a super cool job (bounty hunting) and even has to get singled out by the big man himself to be explicitly warned not to disintegrate his target!

Oh, and he has a flipping jet pack!

Of course he resonated with little nerds around the globe and developed a fan base. He was specifically engineered to do exactly that!

Because people are sick bastards?

While I’m not sure how much we’ll actually get to see, I’m very curious about what goes on with Luke training Grogu and where Grogu ends up.

I’m also very much looking forward to seeing how the Dark Saber “issue” plays out, as others mentioned.

On a more random thought, I would LOVE to see Hasbro bring out some Mando themed Micro Machines. I had a blast getting back into Star Wars Micro Machines when TFA came out and was very sad they canned the line after Rogue One (though I’m glad we got MMs from R1!).

Others have done a good job already explaining what is great about Rogue One.

For me, as I’ve said many times on this forum, it’s my third favorite Star Wars film behind only Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back.

Oh I’m well acquainted with the differences Vader exhibits from film to film. We are specifically discussing how they altered the way his voice sounds within the same film from the theatrical version to the various special edition versions.

Well, I’ve never watched the dvd or Blu ray versions. And I only watched the D+ version once in a massive marathon building up to seeing The Rise of Skywalker, where I watched the “official” versions of the entire saga (including Solo and Rogue One) in chronological order. I hadn’t watched any version of the SE beyond the ‘97 version (which I hadn’t watched since the prequels theatrical releases) and I hadn’t watched the prequels themselves in over a decade so there was a LOT of new stuff to take in. Heck, the audio mixes themselves on the OT were so different from what I was used to that I’m not surprised I missed a detail like Vader’s voice being tweaked (especially when it’s the same recordings just mixed differently).

But listening to it in a short clip by itself, yeah it’s very obvious it sounds meddled with.

Fascinating. I would’ve never known (mostly because I never watch anything but the theatrical cuts).

I will admit watching the ANH clip posted above does sound a little different than I remember. Not drastically so. It’s obviously the same recording. Just… a little more processed? Or processed a little differently? Something.

Really? I’ve never heard that before. But I can only recall watching a post-1997 cut of ANH once (on Disney+) so I’m really not an authority on SE changes, especially from the DVD release and beyond.

As much as you’re willing to pay for?

I probably watch them once a year. Maybe twice. But now that my kids are old enough it’s always a family event. And it’s always the OOT (currently 4K77, ESB DE 2.0, and 4K83).

I’m in the planning (and saving up for) stage of building a home theater so I’m hoping my next watch will be sometime in late 2021 as the inauguration of sorts for the theater. And if so, that’ll be my first time watching 4K77 in actual 4K!

JEDIT
Whoops, I forgot that D+80 has supplanted the despecialized edition for ESB in my lineup.

^Agreed. Also, numerous original effects shots that remain were digitally recomped for the SE (the battle of Hoth being a noteworthy stand out). So just re-inserting the non-SE shots into the SE is not truly restoring the original films.

[Subatomic said:]

Any valid reason to not have Han shoot first?

No.

I think he was expressing genuine excitement over your discovery.

I think the point they are making is it’s available legally and easily without resorting to illegal downloads. Bootlegging readily available content isn’t what this site has ever been about.

^definitely

Vader is very clearly a man with anger issues. But he doesn’t throw wild childish temper tantrums. He’s more mature and expresses his anger in more focused and, honestly, sadistic ways.

It’s why I said I liked the general direction the OP was headed but disagreed with some of his assertions. Vader definitely is a character with strong emotions. But he doesn’t lose his composure over them the way younger Anakin or especially Kylo Ren does.

In a way Darth Vader is the perfect example of the Sith. You can pretty clearly see his hate and anger giving him driven focus and making him stronger (metaphorically). But while his emotions guide him, they don’t overpower or control him.

Tobar said:

If you examine the line carefully:

“Arfour, scramble code five to Coruscant, care of the Old Folks’ Home.”

He’s calling himself the Old Folks’ Home, he doesn’t want the Confederacy or any other nosey snoopers knowing that it’s him sending a message to the temple.

But that’s not what “care of” means…?

It means you’re sending a message to someone via someone else. For example, I don’t have my cousin Bob’s address but I know he sees his mom (my aunt) once a week. If I have her address, I could mail a card to “Bob, C/O Aunt Sue, at Aunt Sue’s address”

I think he is indeed using “old folks home” as a code for Jedi Temple, not himself. And that makes more sense anyway. Why would he refer to himself as an institution?

Fun aside; I never even realized that was a line in the film. I think I’ve only watched AOTC 4 times (twice in the theater, once on dvd, and once on Disney+) which is by far the least number of times I’ve watched any Star Wars movie except TROS (but that’s only b/c TROS has been out for so much less time)

I haven’t finished reading your whole post (though I intend to). While I like where you’re going with it in what I’ve read so far, I think you’re making a mistake.

Cold and calculating != unemotional.

Vader is clearly VERY calculating and a great tactician. He uses fear and dread to incredible effect multiple times throughout the OT (and it’s one of the reasons I think the hallway scene in Rogue One is great. It’s classic Vader tactics). And look at his whole plan to capture Luke on Bespin. Very calculated.

And I’d argue he’s very cold. Choking people to death for any failure (or daring to insult him) is cold! “Cold” is often used to infer overly harsh meanness. And that is OT Darth to a tee.

The one point from your initial argument I agree with is calm. Vader ain’t calm, he’s a total hot head who flies off the handle. But he flies off the handle in a cold and calculated manner! 😉

JEDIT

I read some more and I think you’re interpreting the duel in bespin all wrong. Vader clearly has a plan to wear Luke down and tempt him to the dark side. On the gantry he really turns up the heat with a brutal onslaught, but still allows Luke to back himself into a corner unscathed. Until Luke gets in ONE lucky hit on Vader’s shoulder. That changes the dynamic of the fight as now Luke is suddenly an actual potential threat to Vader and the very next thing Darth does is chop his hand off. Really, watch the fight. Vader dominates and controls the entire fight until that one moment. And as soon as Luke hits his shoulder Vader immediately chops his weapon hand off and ends the fight. That’s a VERY calculated move. And it’s exactly what a highly skilled swordsman would do.

Also also…

People often use “cold” to mean “cold blooded” (Google even lists cold blooded as a synonym for cold).

Synonyms listed for cold blooded include “cruel”, “callous”, “ruthless”, “inhumane”, and “merciless”. All of which accurately describe OT Vader.

I still occasionally play the 2015 Battlefront on PS4 in single player.

My card “hands” have been stuck in the last configuration I set up in multiplayer years ago when I did the free 7 day trial.

Is there any way to customize the hands of cards you’re equipped with in single player? It kinda sucks being stuck with the same stuff. And it’s not even the defaults. It’s the hands I last configured in multiplayer.

Google was not help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGl1IUU72LM

Hey now! We use standard paper sizes. We just choose to hold ourselves to a different standard than the rest of the world! 😉

But in seriousness, nice job! Looks very professional. And while not perfect, I think Duel of the Fates would’ve resulted in a better film and more satisfying conclusion than the disjointed mess we got in The Rise of Skywalker.

People keep using the phrase “trained martial artist” as if it means anything. Especially coming out of Hollywood…

And even if she does have authentic martial arts training, why does that make everyone think that she must be cast with the intent of using that skillset? Actors often have wide ranges of experiences in their backgrounds that may or may not come into play for any given role…

Ha, I used to use those cheat codes in Jedi Outcast to make my lightsaber orange because orange is my favorite color.