That’s a cool idea! Too bad they went with bleeding crystals instead 😦
Blinking Ewoks remain creepy as ever.
Aha! Thanks! And, of all things, I feel like that shouldn’t have ever been cut because it makes the inexplicable scene of them running to the ship for no reason actually make sense!
Less a thought and more of a question: I was skimming through the phantom menace on Disney+. It’s been at least 15 years since I’ve watched the movie but I swear there was a scene where one of Darth Maul’s probes on Tatooine is flying behind Qui-gon who quickly spins around and slices it in half with his lightsaber. But I don’t see it in the film. Am I missing something?
Also, DuracellEnergizer, thank you for making me aware of this awesome looking film, “Ladyhawke”! Never heard of it before but now I know what I’m watching before going to the Renaissance Festival later this month!
Yesterday morning, when I was getting my Disney+ account all set up I noticed they had all the Star Wars films (sans Solo and TLJ due to their Netflix deals not expiring yet) up and in 4K UHD. I don’t have anything 4K compatible yet, but I still immediately skimmed through Star Wars and ESB to see if anything was new. I was blown away by how much better the colors were than any previous digital (disc or streaming) release! I still vastly prefer the original cuts (and thank God for 4K77, 80, and 83!!) but if you’re gonna watch the SE, at least it isn’t an eye-assaulting magenta and purple horrorshow anymore! It actually looks… nice.
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I might actually watch them! I haven’t watched an SE in its entirety since the VHS era, so that’s saying something!
A tadpole is a baby frog (when it still looks like a fish). It’s a baby “Yoda” so mush the two together to get “Yadpole”
So without spoilers… what are people saying/thinking about the series? The trailers look great but they can be deceptive…
I thought it was pretty good. It starts out well but then quickly gets bogged down and becomes too “marvel cinematic universe”-ish, in a not so great way. Luckily it picks back up and the last half or so is pretty great. It leans hard into the “western in space” concept and that is a very good thing. It’s far from perfect but I think it has great potential.
One thing mentioned in the spoiler thread, but not really a spoiler (I hope y’all agree…) is that it uses original music and doesn’t really rely on John Williams’ body of work at all. That felt a little jarring at first because we are just trained to expect his music to pop up frequently in anything Star Wars. The fact that this show was completely devoid of Williams’ music was rather jarring at first. I actually think it works to the show’s benefit but it does take some retraining of your mind’s “muscle memory” so to speak. Now that I know to expect that, it’s totally fine and works.
I thought the main characters were good. Some of the bit parts (especially one blue alien) were either poorly written or poorly acted (or both) but all the key players did a nice job. The Mandalorian is intriguing and I’m eager to see where his story goes. IG-11 is also awesome. I don’t want to spoil it for those who haven’t seen it, but I really love how they wrote his character and also how they brought it to life onscreen.
The Easter eggs (the ones I caught so far) are handled much better than, say, Dr. Evazan or the droids in Rogue One.
REMINDER, SPOILER THREAD!! MAJOR SPOILERS BELOW!!!
I just watched episode one and gotta say, I’m hooked! The opening scene in the bar was pretty great, but then it felt a little rough and a bit too “marvel-y” for the next few minutes (when the Mandalorian is traveling with his bounty to his ship and then in space). But then it hits its stride again quickly thereafter and just gets better as it goes.
I LOVED IG-11! His personality is perfect and the way they made him move is flipping spectacular! He moves with this jerky, “1980’s theme park animatronic” style motion; but is still quick, precise, and deadly. It’s amazingly cool to watch and puts IG-88 from ESB into a whole new perspective! Kinda sad he got his head blown apart… but I suspect he’ll be back again. There’s no way they invested that much money in his animation to have him offed in the first episode.
Also, I was pretty shocked by the revelation of the bounty. As they approached the container I asked aloud, “is it a baby?” And my wife responded, “they said it was 50 years old…”. Then we see the back of his head. I was stunned! A baby Yoda!? Cannot wait to see where this goes!
What was the old EU “more sci-fi” explanation of why the bad guys had red blades?
I’d love to see that 3PO (and R2) costume if you find a photo. Our kids’ masks and weaponry were store bought, but the costumes are homemade from the neck down and I had to add several details to the Stormtrooper mask because it had very few of the details painted. My Boba Fett costume came from amazon, the jet pack is inflatable!
That trailer was great! Everything about this show so far looks phenomenal. Really looking forward to the launch of Disney+. There’s some things about Disney as a company that o strongly dislike, but they really do know how to deliver some great products when it suits them.
Huh. Rogue One, to me, felt like some of the best EU from the 90’s (like the early X-wing novels and comics or the dark forces video game series) brought to live action.
This trailer feels like some of the more bizarre or “out there” 90’s EU like, say, Dark Empire. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not yet…
I do love the image of the ice crystal palace thing with TIE fighters flying towards it. It feels like something from the Leigh Brackett draft of ESB (which I envisioned having a glitzy 70’s scifi visual style. Kinda like if Star Wars went all “Xanadu” in the sequel). The cavalry charge across the surface of a Star Destroyer seems… …odd…
So did anyone ever explain how Luke’s saber was supposed to have wound up in space in that version of the TFA opening?
Fascinating! I stand corrected!
Man, I wouldn’t even know where to begin to find it now, but I remember a detailed post on some message board about the guy who played Vader in that back-of-the-head shot for ESB. I don’t remember who it was, but it wasn’t Prowse (according to that post). No idea what that photo you linked is.
I texted the link to my wife.
She said no.
It killed me enough that Disney sold SW like crazy in the parks back then but now its just soulless.
Statements like this just don’t compute for me. Star Wars has always leaned HARD into the merchandising arena. Why would it bother you that’s it’s sold in Disney Parks?
Broom Kid said:
I understand why this question is asked so frequently, but I also think the best answer is to just let them discover it on their own, however it is they discover it - whether that’s hearing about it from a friend, picking it out of a home video library on their own, or stumbling across it on TV (or netflix, or youtube now, I guess? Twitch tv maybe?) I don’t think I missed out or lost anything by not having my dad set me down to watch Star Wars with him after having figured out the optimal viewing order. I became a fan of the original trilogy by myself, and that sense of discovery is a big part of why it stuck with me all this time. There’s a big difference between finding this very cool thing “on your own” vs. having it carefully curated and presented to you like a rite of passage. Kids can and do recognize this, even if they don’t have the words for those concepts yet.
I totally get where you’re coming from and in some respects I agree with you. I grew up and discovered Star Wars on my own and it was magical. But my parents weren’t huge Star Wars fans. My dad was a John Wayne western and war movie kinda guy, so those are the types of films he shared with me.
But in a household like mine, where I have a whole collection of Star Wars models, action figures, props, and helmets on display in my man cave, they’ve been exposed in some form to this for their entire lives. So getting to sit down and share Star Wars with them the way my dad shared Patton or Rio Bravo with me was a grand experience for all of us. I’m not a huge western fan like my dad was, but I do enjoy them and have several of the classics in my movie collection. But the memories of watching my dad’s favorite movies with him are an integral part of who I am and are a cherished part of m childhood. Getting to do something similar with my kids by showing them my favorite movies has been a real treat. Maybe they’ll grow up to be huge Star Wars fans like me, or maybe they’ll find their own thing. But regardless, we’ll always have the memories of that fun experience together.
First, I’d say use 4K77 and 4K83 over despecialized. Not that Harmy’s work isn’t amazing and a crucial step in fan preservation history. But if you’re gonna show them the original cuts, why not go with truly original cuts where possible? Now for ESB I’d argue that the latest Despecialized is the best thing currently available.
As for order, just this year I introduced my kids (boys age 3 and 5) to Star Wars. Of course they both loved it. Some stuff certainly went over my 3 year olds head but he was still very into it and got the key info. My five year old was really into it and absolutely understood everything that he was seeing. He still will randomly say things that make me go “wow, I had no idea you picked up on that detail!”
I showed them Star Wars (via 4K77) first. Then we went to Disney world and naturally did a bunch of Star Wars stuff (the galaxys edge thing wasn’t quite open yet).
Then several months later they asked to watch Star Wars again so we watched 4K77 again. At that point I decided they could handle the rest of the OT so we watched ESB and ROTJ via ESB DeEd 2.0 and 4K83. My five year old was shocked at Vader’s ESB revelation. When asked about it during the credits he blurted out, “he’s lying!!! Obi-wan said he killed Luke’s dad!!”. It was pretty awesome! We’ve since watched ESB one more time and I suspect we’ll watch the whole OT again soon since they’ve elected to go as Darth Vader and a Stormtrooper for Halloween.
I’m sure they’ll see the PT eventually but I’ve no plans or interest in showing it to them. Plus parts of ROTS are inappropriate for their ages. I do intend to show them the Disney films in the future, but again, they’re not really age appropriate yet. As it stands it’s pretty nice letting the OT stand alone for a time. It deserves some breathing room and time for their little brains to really absorb it and ponder it. It’s also good to see the OT cementing itself as the foundation of their Star Wars experience, just like it was for me.
Dang, that’s awesome. It looks like some of the awesome novel and comic cover art from the early to mid 90’s Star Wars renaissance. I love it!
We don’t know that. We don’t know what “point five last lightspeed” actually means. It could mean 0.5, or 50% faster than the speed of light. Or it could mean something else entirely. Maybe it’s some kind of exponential factor?
Plus they aren’t traveling at lightpseed or what have you in normal space. They do it in hyperspace. Which is never explained but could very well be some sort of quantum space-bending wormhole or some such. So traveling at anything resembling the speed of light (or more) through something like that could result in insanely high relative speeds from one system to another.
Plus it’s space fantasy that has never concerned itself with real world physics and has never given enough info to really be able to relate it to or calculate it with real science.
I think he just doesn’t really care. And, honestly, I really don’t think he even realizes he contradicts himself so much.
Alright! Got a solution. Seems it’s the audio tracks are causing the problem. I was able to demux (and got that error again at 99.4%). Then I successfully muxed (to 100%) a BD iso using just the video and only one audio track (the first one). I’m gonna repeat the process muxing by adding one track at a time until I find the culprit, then just leave that one out of the final iso. It’ll take a few days probably, but I’ll report back when I know which track is causing my issue in case it helps anyone else.