Fascinating! I stand corrected!
Man, I wouldn’t even know where to begin to find it now, but I remember a detailed post on some message board about the guy who played Vader in that back-of-the-head shot for ESB. I don’t remember who it was, but it wasn’t Prowse (according to that post). No idea what that photo you linked is.
I texted the link to my wife.
She said no.
It killed me enough that Disney sold SW like crazy in the parks back then but now its just soulless.
Statements like this just don’t compute for me. Star Wars has always leaned HARD into the merchandising arena. Why would it bother you that’s it’s sold in Disney Parks?
Broom Kid said:
I understand why this question is asked so frequently, but I also think the best answer is to just let them discover it on their own, however it is they discover it - whether that’s hearing about it from a friend, picking it out of a home video library on their own, or stumbling across it on TV (or netflix, or youtube now, I guess? Twitch tv maybe?) I don’t think I missed out or lost anything by not having my dad set me down to watch Star Wars with him after having figured out the optimal viewing order. I became a fan of the original trilogy by myself, and that sense of discovery is a big part of why it stuck with me all this time. There’s a big difference between finding this very cool thing “on your own” vs. having it carefully curated and presented to you like a rite of passage. Kids can and do recognize this, even if they don’t have the words for those concepts yet.
I totally get where you’re coming from and in some respects I agree with you. I grew up and discovered Star Wars on my own and it was magical. But my parents weren’t huge Star Wars fans. My dad was a John Wayne western and war movie kinda guy, so those are the types of films he shared with me.
But in a household like mine, where I have a whole collection of Star Wars models, action figures, props, and helmets on display in my man cave, they’ve been exposed in some form to this for their entire lives. So getting to sit down and share Star Wars with them the way my dad shared Patton or Rio Bravo with me was a grand experience for all of us. I’m not a huge western fan like my dad was, but I do enjoy them and have several of the classics in my movie collection. But the memories of watching my dad’s favorite movies with him are an integral part of who I am and are a cherished part of m childhood. Getting to do something similar with my kids by showing them my favorite movies has been a real treat. Maybe they’ll grow up to be huge Star Wars fans like me, or maybe they’ll find their own thing. But regardless, we’ll always have the memories of that fun experience together.
First, I’d say use 4K77 and 4K83 over despecialized. Not that Harmy’s work isn’t amazing and a crucial step in fan preservation history. But if you’re gonna show them the original cuts, why not go with truly original cuts where possible? Now for ESB I’d argue that the latest Despecialized is the best thing currently available.
As for order, just this year I introduced my kids (boys age 3 and 5) to Star Wars. Of course they both loved it. Some stuff certainly went over my 3 year olds head but he was still very into it and got the key info. My five year old was really into it and absolutely understood everything that he was seeing. He still will randomly say things that make me go “wow, I had no idea you picked up on that detail!”
I showed them Star Wars (via 4K77) first. Then we went to Disney world and naturally did a bunch of Star Wars stuff (the galaxys edge thing wasn’t quite open yet).
Then several months later they asked to watch Star Wars again so we watched 4K77 again. At that point I decided they could handle the rest of the OT so we watched ESB and ROTJ via ESB DeEd 2.0 and 4K83. My five year old was shocked at Vader’s ESB revelation. When asked about it during the credits he blurted out, “he’s lying!!! Obi-wan said he killed Luke’s dad!!”. It was pretty awesome! We’ve since watched ESB one more time and I suspect we’ll watch the whole OT again soon since they’ve elected to go as Darth Vader and a Stormtrooper for Halloween.
I’m sure they’ll see the PT eventually but I’ve no plans or interest in showing it to them. Plus parts of ROTS are inappropriate for their ages. I do intend to show them the Disney films in the future, but again, they’re not really age appropriate yet. As it stands it’s pretty nice letting the OT stand alone for a time. It deserves some breathing room and time for their little brains to really absorb it and ponder it. It’s also good to see the OT cementing itself as the foundation of their Star Wars experience, just like it was for me.
Dang, that’s awesome. It looks like some of the awesome novel and comic cover art from the early to mid 90’s Star Wars renaissance. I love it!
We don’t know that. We don’t know what “point five last lightspeed” actually means. It could mean 0.5, or 50% faster than the speed of light. Or it could mean something else entirely. Maybe it’s some kind of exponential factor?
Plus they aren’t traveling at lightpseed or what have you in normal space. They do it in hyperspace. Which is never explained but could very well be some sort of quantum space-bending wormhole or some such. So traveling at anything resembling the speed of light (or more) through something like that could result in insanely high relative speeds from one system to another.
Plus it’s space fantasy that has never concerned itself with real world physics and has never given enough info to really be able to relate it to or calculate it with real science.
I think he just doesn’t really care. And, honestly, I really don’t think he even realizes he contradicts himself so much.
Alright! Got a solution. Seems it’s the audio tracks are causing the problem. I was able to demux (and got that error again at 99.4%). Then I successfully muxed (to 100%) a BD iso using just the video and only one audio track (the first one). I’m gonna repeat the process muxing by adding one track at a time until I find the culprit, then just leave that one out of the final iso. It’ll take a few days probably, but I’ll report back when I know which track is causing my issue in case it helps anyone else.
Ugh. I deleted everything, downloaded it fresh, and I’m still getting that same error at 99.4% when trying to mux a BD iso.
I don’t know what else to do. :’(
V1.3 looks so much better than the version 1.0 that I currently have (as amazing as it is). The colors and contrast are amazing! I’m not giving up but I’m gonna have to start digging harder to figure out what the problem is and how to solve it.
Yep, I agree. It was a masterful slight of hand played in full view of the audience. I too knew something was going on (the lightsaber was the biggest clue that jumped out to me on opening night, but other things like his appearance and surviving the bombardment had my gears turning too). I had a pretty good idea what was happening by the time I saw Kylo’s blade slice through him with no effect but I wasn’t certain until it was fully revealed. Overall I find TLJ a rather mixed bag, but the climax and Luke’s fight with Kylo Ren is just pitch perfect. That sequence really saves the film for me in all honesty.
Unfortunately that didn’t work. I got the same error at the same 99.4% completion when demuxing as I did when muxing. I did notice that TSmuxer had some additional info in a little window near the bottom. It said something about the streams possiby being out of sync or something like that (I really should’ve screenshotted that…)
Anyway, I’m wondering if somehow the MKV was corrupted or incomplete. I decided to just scrap it and start over, so I deleted the MKV and am currently re-downloading it. hope it works this time! What’s odd, though, is that VLC had no problem playing the MKV. But I didn’t actually watch the whole film, just spot checked it. Perhaps VLC would’ve locked up once it reached the broken part. I’ve seen VLC do that before, where you have a failed download that will play fine until it reaches the broken bit.
The materials are too high-quality and too well-designed for what would realistically be in that setting.
That’s exactly what I was trying to say, but said so much more succinctly!
Maybe the issue is that there is nothing to concretely establish a sense of scale, since none of the figures have human features. Another issue is probably the frame rate of the video this still was taken from, since the cloaks have no motion blur and thus look motionless and staged.
That’s an excellent point about the lack of motion blur. I also thin the shallow depth of field is a major player.
Haha, that is exactly the first thought I had upon seeing that image!
I think, in addition to the things you mention, there’s something about the costumes themselves that lend to the “action figure” look. It’s something that’s been bugging me about a lot of the Disney era costumes. While much better than anything in the PT, there’s something very artificial looking about a lot of the new props and costumes. It’s like the fabric is too thick, and high quality. The stitching is too good. The molded parts (helmet, armor, etc.) too cleanly molded/sculpted and too nicely painted. Even the weathering and wear-and-tear looks too curated and “artistically” applied. The costumes in the OT looked like real clothes that people actually wore and lived in. The newer stuff looks like an art department with too big a budget trying to replicate that look while using much higher quality materials.
I dunno. It’s a small nit to pick but it’s something that sticks out to me from time to time. Oddly though, on screen I feel it’s much less of an issue (not that it goes away entirely, but that it’s somewhat mitigated). It’s these production photos and behind-the-scenes things where it really stands out.
Awesome, thank you for the help!
So I just want to make sure I’m understanding the concept behind what you’re saying…
Your instructions have me demuxing the original mkv to separate out the video stream. Then when I mux the iso file I need to add the original mkv but deselect the video stream (so I’m basically using the audio portion of the original mkv), then add in the newly created video stream? Is that correct.
I find when I understand the concept behind them, I usually have less trouble following the instructions correctly. But all this video and audio manipulation and “computer stuff” is so far outside my wheelhouse that I really struggle to keep up with some of you guys!
Thanks for the info. Is there a place where I might find guidance on how to demux and remux into this .264 file? This is all very Greek to me. I’ve managed to mux MKV to a BD iso, but that’s as far as I’ve ever made it. I know people do things like adding and removing audio and video tracks but I have no idea how to do any of that.
I am having an issue with muxing 4K83 v1.3 to a BD iso file to burn to disc.
Twice now TSmuxer gets 99.4% complete and then posts error code 1073741819. I googled the error code and found an old message board where a guy was getting this code when he accidentally had two VC-1 codecs checked. Deselecting one fixed his issue.
My problem is, I don’t know what the heck any of that means. And I’m not sure what to do to make it work. I’ve been doing the exact same thing I always do muxing my iso files and this one is stumping me.
I only add one file to be muxed: the actual mkv of the film (I tried including the little intros and rating card one time but failed miserably so now I just keep it simple; a disc of the film itself with the included chapter stops).
Any ideas what is happening and how I can fix it?
And, while perhaps little solace, it is worth noting that the events in the film do in fact span several years’ time.
If Vader refers to the carbon freezing tech as crude, then the tech must be from the past. The carbon freezing from this trailer is probably a more modern variant, safe for bounty hunters.
“Crude” does not equal “old”. It simply means it’s in a rough, not refined state. Like my cheap analogue watch from Walmart is a crude timepiece compared to the more sophisticated and high tech apple watch. Heck, maybe the Bespin facility was pieced together with parts salvaged from a scrapyard?
I agree with the sentiment that I prefer the idea of carbon freezing to be a unique thing done in ESB. However, I don’t have a real issue with it being used elsewhere in Star Wars from a technical, writing, or “plot hole” point of view. There’s nothing in ESB that actually indicates this is a unique idea that’s never been tried before. I agree with others that the “crude” comment refers to the poor state of the equipment and the question of Luke or Han’s survival comes from this poor quality, not necessarily that it’s a new process. We could even suppose that maybe carbon freezing living beings has been tried before but the success rate is low.
Also, this show takes place after ROTJ and you can bet that Captain Solo’s frozen form made a splash with the denizens of Jabba’s Palace. I’m sure word got around! Maybe there’s been a wave of carbon freezing going viral around the galaxy after that?
Wow, that little two minute video was all I needed to see to finally understand what this technology is. Mind blowing! But also the obvious natural progression given all the tech developed to this point.
I think I actually prefer that method of release. It gives you something to look forward to each week instead of binge watching the whole season in one or two sittings and then be left waiting a whole year (or two for GoT) for the next one.
Same here. I just binged all of Stranger Things in three days and now I’ve got nothing until Mandalorian. I dont have the self control of waiting a week when all I have to do is hit “Next Episode > Skip Intro”. 😉
You skip the Stranger Things intro? I don’t think we can be friends anymore.
There’s also either a TIE pilot or AT-AT driver helmet and armor just left of Chewie. The lighting mak3s it hard to tell which it is.
Oh my eyes! Those are terrible! The only ones that are kinda ok-ish are TFA and Solo. I think it’s mostly that the orange-on-black color scheme kinda works. But yikes!
Can you just post them here? That link is worthless if (like me) you’re not a member of that forum.