Because people are sick bastards?
While I’m not sure how much we’ll actually get to see, I’m very curious about what goes on with Luke training Grogu and where Grogu ends up.
I’m also very much looking forward to seeing how the Dark Saber “issue” plays out, as others mentioned.
On a more random thought, I would LOVE to see Hasbro bring out some Mando themed Micro Machines. I had a blast getting back into Star Wars Micro Machines when TFA came out and was very sad they canned the line after Rogue One (though I’m glad we got MMs from R1!).
Others have done a good job already explaining what is great about Rogue One.
For me, as I’ve said many times on this forum, it’s my third favorite Star Wars film behind only Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back.
Oh I’m well acquainted with the differences Vader exhibits from film to film. We are specifically discussing how they altered the way his voice sounds within the same film from the theatrical version to the various special edition versions.
Well, I’ve never watched the dvd or Blu ray versions. And I only watched the D+ version once in a massive marathon building up to seeing The Rise of Skywalker, where I watched the “official” versions of the entire saga (including Solo and Rogue One) in chronological order. I hadn’t watched any version of the SE beyond the ‘97 version (which I hadn’t watched since the prequels theatrical releases) and I hadn’t watched the prequels themselves in over a decade so there was a LOT of new stuff to take in. Heck, the audio mixes themselves on the OT were so different from what I was used to that I’m not surprised I missed a detail like Vader’s voice being tweaked (especially when it’s the same recordings just mixed differently).
But listening to it in a short clip by itself, yeah it’s very obvious it sounds meddled with.
Fascinating. I would’ve never known (mostly because I never watch anything but the theatrical cuts).
I will admit watching the ANH clip posted above does sound a little different than I remember. Not drastically so. It’s obviously the same recording. Just… a little more processed? Or processed a little differently? Something.
Really? I’ve never heard that before. But I can only recall watching a post-1997 cut of ANH once (on Disney+) so I’m really not an authority on SE changes, especially from the DVD release and beyond.
As much as you’re willing to pay for?
I probably watch them once a year. Maybe twice. But now that my kids are old enough it’s always a family event. And it’s always the OOT (currently 4K77, ESB DE 2.0, and 4K83).
I’m in the planning (and saving up for) stage of building a home theater so I’m hoping my next watch will be sometime in late 2021 as the inauguration of sorts for the theater. And if so, that’ll be my first time watching 4K77 in actual 4K!
Whoops, I forgot that D+80 has supplanted the despecialized edition for ESB in my lineup.
^Agreed. Also, numerous original effects shots that remain were digitally recomped for the SE (the battle of Hoth being a noteworthy stand out). So just re-inserting the non-SE shots into the SE is not truly restoring the original films.
Any valid reason to not have Han shoot first?
I think he was expressing genuine excitement over your discovery.
I think the point they are making is it’s available legally and easily without resorting to illegal downloads. Bootlegging readily available content isn’t what this site has ever been about.
Vader is very clearly a man with anger issues. But he doesn’t throw wild childish temper tantrums. He’s more mature and expresses his anger in more focused and, honestly, sadistic ways.
It’s why I said I liked the general direction the OP was headed but disagreed with some of his assertions. Vader definitely is a character with strong emotions. But he doesn’t lose his composure over them the way younger Anakin or especially Kylo Ren does.
In a way Darth Vader is the perfect example of the Sith. You can pretty clearly see his hate and anger giving him driven focus and making him stronger (metaphorically). But while his emotions guide him, they don’t overpower or control him.
If you examine the line carefully:
“Arfour, scramble code five to Coruscant, care of the Old Folks’ Home.”
He’s calling himself the Old Folks’ Home, he doesn’t want the Confederacy or any other nosey snoopers knowing that it’s him sending a message to the temple.
But that’s not what “care of” means…?
It means you’re sending a message to someone via someone else. For example, I don’t have my cousin Bob’s address but I know he sees his mom (my aunt) once a week. If I have her address, I could mail a card to “Bob, C/O Aunt Sue, at Aunt Sue’s address”
I think he is indeed using “old folks home” as a code for Jedi Temple, not himself. And that makes more sense anyway. Why would he refer to himself as an institution?
Fun aside; I never even realized that was a line in the film. I think I’ve only watched AOTC 4 times (twice in the theater, once on dvd, and once on Disney+) which is by far the least number of times I’ve watched any Star Wars movie except TROS (but that’s only b/c TROS has been out for so much less time)
I haven’t finished reading your whole post (though I intend to). While I like where you’re going with it in what I’ve read so far, I think you’re making a mistake.
Cold and calculating != unemotional.
Vader is clearly VERY calculating and a great tactician. He uses fear and dread to incredible effect multiple times throughout the OT (and it’s one of the reasons I think the hallway scene in Rogue One is great. It’s classic Vader tactics). And look at his whole plan to capture Luke on Bespin. Very calculated.
And I’d argue he’s very cold. Choking people to death for any failure (or daring to insult him) is cold! “Cold” is often used to infer overly harsh meanness. And that is OT Darth to a tee.
The one point from your initial argument I agree with is calm. Vader ain’t calm, he’s a total hot head who flies off the handle. But he flies off the handle in a cold and calculated manner! 😉
I read some more and I think you’re interpreting the duel in bespin all wrong. Vader clearly has a plan to wear Luke down and tempt him to the dark side. On the gantry he really turns up the heat with a brutal onslaught, but still allows Luke to back himself into a corner unscathed. Until Luke gets in ONE lucky hit on Vader’s shoulder. That changes the dynamic of the fight as now Luke is suddenly an actual potential threat to Vader and the very next thing Darth does is chop his hand off. Really, watch the fight. Vader dominates and controls the entire fight until that one moment. And as soon as Luke hits his shoulder Vader immediately chops his weapon hand off and ends the fight. That’s a VERY calculated move. And it’s exactly what a highly skilled swordsman would do.
People often use “cold” to mean “cold blooded” (Google even lists cold blooded as a synonym for cold).
Synonyms listed for cold blooded include “cruel”, “callous”, “ruthless”, “inhumane”, and “merciless”. All of which accurately describe OT Vader.
I still occasionally play the 2015 Battlefront on PS4 in single player.
My card “hands” have been stuck in the last configuration I set up in multiplayer years ago when I did the free 7 day trial.
Is there any way to customize the hands of cards you’re equipped with in single player? It kinda sucks being stuck with the same stuff. And it’s not even the defaults. It’s the hands I last configured in multiplayer.
Google was not help.
Hey now! We use standard paper sizes. We just choose to hold ourselves to a different standard than the rest of the world! 😉
But in seriousness, nice job! Looks very professional. And while not perfect, I think Duel of the Fates would’ve resulted in a better film and more satisfying conclusion than the disjointed mess we got in The Rise of Skywalker.
People keep using the phrase “trained martial artist” as if it means anything. Especially coming out of Hollywood…
And even if she does have authentic martial arts training, why does that make everyone think that she must be cast with the intent of using that skillset? Actors often have wide ranges of experiences in their backgrounds that may or may not come into play for any given role…
Ha, I used to use those cheat codes in Jedi Outcast to make my lightsaber orange because orange is my favorite color.
You know, the tension between Boba Fett and Bo Katan’s posse gave me a small epiphany.
Like many here, I vastly prefer the OOT to any subsequent version. I never much liked the way Boba was handled in and after AotC. But his role in The Mandalorian has softened my opinion on his “official” history even if I still don’t love him being a clone. Anyway, the way they pointed out his voice giving him away really struck me. It makes total sense he’d use some kind of vocoder to alter his voice after the clone wars and during Imperial rule. So the original ESB version still works within “true” cannon. Or, (more importantly to me), the Boba Fett in this show and the original ESB aren’t incongruent with each other. Yay!
Also, it even works with him no altering his voice in the show because at this point, with the empire ousted and the clone wars a distant memory for many, it’s less of a concern that people would recognize his voice or, if they do, care.
Of course, don’t get me started on the idea of millions of clones all having the same regional accent…
Regarding Bo Katan and the Dark Saber, I didn’t feel like they left anything hanging. I thought her performance pretty clearly conveyed the sense that she desperately wanted it, was supremely disappointed at what Din had unwittingly done, but was clearly choosing not to pick a fight over it right then and there. She obviously needed some time to think about what had happened and how she could “fix” it for herself. But she wasn’t ready to up and kill Din right then and there and was choosing to wait. For now…
I really enjoyed it. Is it perfect? Nah. Are there nits to be picked? Sure.
But this show, like Rogue One before it, just hits all the right Star Wars notes for me and I’m just along for the ride at this point. I’m beyond caring about critiquing this on any kind of intellectual level. I’m ready to just let it wash over me like ocean waves and enjoy the experience.
Can’t wait to see where next season goes and I’m genuinely intrigued by the Book of Boba Fett.
Yeah, while the sequel trilogy has plenty of faults, I though the new force powers it introduced (especially the “JediSkype” where even environmental elements like rain drops transferred and of course Luke’s force projection) were really great and felt very in keeping with the right “feel” of the Force.
I also think looking to the Jedi Knight games as a source of inspiration would be great. I was happy to see Force healing implemented in TRoS and The Mandalorian. It was implied by Ben Kenobi’s actions toward Luke in ‘77 but never explicitly shown or dealt with.
I don’t like the idea of conjuring elements so much (it’s a bit too magic) but I love the idea of being able to command or control the elements and think it would feel like a natural extension of the force. So, for example a Jedi couldn’t make fire or water appear out of nowhere, but if it was already there they could manipulate and control it to a certain extent. Which I guess we technically saw with baby Yo… er, Grogu in season one of Mando.
Basically, since the force is a natural, elemental type of mysticism created by living things and intertwined with the physical world around them (the tree. The rock.) those are the types of powers I like to see. It should be able to enhance, expand, and manipulate the mind, body, spirit, and natural world in and around the user.
If I had to invent a new force power… hmm. I don’t know if I can come up with one that hasn’t already been at least touched on in official media. Maybe something like the ability to put your enemies to sleep? I could see that being a cool scene for a hero hopelessly outnumbered in a critical situation to reach out with the force and watch a whole platoon of stormtroopers start feeling very drowsy and struggling to stay focused and awake until they give in and all fall asleep. Has something like that been done before?