BrotherOfSasquatch

Anakin Starkiller said:

Using Rogue One footage is dumb because it’s very clearly set during the OT. There’s no way to remove all the iconography in a way that would make it plausibly pass off as being in the ST era.

To be fair, the ST already has a lot of iconography and weapons/vehicles from the OT (X-Wings, TIE Fighters, Stormtroopers, etc.) It would be slightly difficult but I think someone could feasibly pull it off.

I want to clarify that like Jar Jar, I only voted no because of how much I dislike how the current line is placed and utilized. If we put it at the end or do what MoviesRemastered is suggesting (essentially, replacing “A thousand generations live in you now” with it), I would be all for it.

Movies Remastered said:

Awwwww! I wish I had my computers. Basically, I think it would work by taking out the “you’ll take both Saber to Exagol” and replace it with “We’ll always be with you”. Then move the “but this is your fight” after that line. It’ll take some work shifting the clip arrangement but that’ll work in many ways.

This is the way.

I can’t believe I overlooked your edit Jar Jar. I liked it!

My only advice is to make it more subtle. I’d like it to sound more like a whisper on the wind rather than the Voice of God, you know?

Also… Kind of ties back into how she kept on hearing the Sith Whispers throughout the movie!

Hal 9000 said:

https://vimeo.com/523070856

I think this is one of those changes that works better as a concept rather than in actual practice. I just think the syntax of it is weird. If it was something like “A thousand generations live in you now… and we’ll always be with you… But this is your fight.”, it wouldn’t sound as wonky to me. But, I’m not sure if that’s possible.

😕

TestingOutTheTest said:

I disagree with this.

Of course you do.

I honestly don’t think there’s ANYTHING you agree with in regards to this edit. lmao.

jarbear said:

That is one, of many nags, in TLJ during Rey’s Force Cave Scene has her voice over. That whole scene, while visually interesting, doesn’t really keep my interest or engagement since we have a literal voice over describing everything.

Sometimes, silence speaks volumes.

BRB, stealing this for a potential personal fan edit of TLJ I may or may not do.

😛

bbghost said:

This is how I’ve managed to get around that line: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1b7m-2Zr8B_0USRM27MO1xQSdNxbFtgiV/view?usp=sharing

Granted I’ve spliced that entire sequence together without cuts back to Finn and Poe, but I think it the dialogue works
OK in context as is, just with removing the line. “Your parents were no one. They chose to be, to keep you safe[…] It was Palpatine who had your parents taken. He was looking for you, but they wouldn’t say where you were. So he gave the order.”

I do want to try and change that line to “had your parents killed” instead of taken (all of the dialogue on this ship reeks of re-write salad) but other than that I think it’s relatively satisfying.

Damn, I think that actually works out pretty great!

I’d love to get a copy of this!

I’d like to get a copy of this!

Ooh… I’m very interested in this.

I’d love to get a copy of this!

sherlockpotter said:

When Luke lifts the X-Wing, what if we carry through the Rise of Skywalker Theme (which is already playing when Rey pulls the Wayfinder from Kylo’s ship) instead of transitioning to Yoda’s Theme? I get what they’re going for (namely: extremely obvious, hit-you-over-the-head-with-a-mace parallels), but…ehhh. Besides, even ignoring the Yoda disconnect, the Rise of Skywalker Theme is the key theme for this entire movie; and with the new coloring, this is the key scene for the film as well. There’s a lot of significance to pairing the two, instead of…Yoda’s Theme. I think the scene would have a lot more power and carry a lot more weight if we allow it to stand on its own, rather than distracting the audience with, “Hey! Yoda’s Theme!”

You know, I never had a problem with the Yoda music in this scene. But re-watching the current iteration of the “day to night” Ahch-To scene, I actually agree with you on just finishing out the TROS theme instead.

JEDIT: Just saw that Hal vetoed this. Lmao. Oh well.

RogueLeader said:

I think the trouble is trying to determine what a malfunctioning saber looks like, since there aren’t many examples of that.

Well, there is this one part in the Rebels TV show… >.>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEh9BA1GyFM

Cinefy said:

I’m not good with colour correction, someone else would need to test it but, I think Mustafar could look a lot better with a bit more of a Orange / hellish tint, I know Mustafar is rejuvenating itself but I think it looking a little more like Revenge Of The Sith colour wise would be a lot better.

(Bad Concept) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/501825149469851659/819252581212749864/image0.jpg
The tint should be a lot more subtle, just not a job for me.

Hmm… This could be interesting.

NeverarGreat said:

As far as more tweaks and changes, I’m honestly ready to let this one go, so if anyone wants to use the full renders to make further adjustments I will send the link. 😃

I’d like one!

DominicCobb said:

Looking fantastic (that first shot - wow).

😃

Allow me to also join in the chorus: This sequence is turning out fantastic.

Other than the quibbles DZ and jarbear have color wise, the only nitpick I could possibly have is that the Porg shot looks out of place. However, that could easily just be something I could change for a personal edit.

Sherlock, you’re an absolute madman. lmao.

Personally speaking, I’m a fan of Option 4 with a little bit of Option 2 thrown in (I LOVE the interrupting Rey idea). However, like Hal, I still think the “It was fear that kept me here” line should still be in it. I’m about as much of a TLJ fanboy as you can ever find (having had MANY heated arguments with my anti-TLJ friends about it). With that said, I’ve never really had a problem with that line and I don’t think it really goes against anything Johnson was doing in his film. Also, I understand what you’re going for with the pause. But as it stands in each clip you posted, it just seems kind of awkward. I think it would just be best to keep the line intact where it’s at.

Another criticism I have is that the “Lesson Three” line in the fourth clip sounds a bit wonky to me. Oddly enough, I didn’t notice it sounding so weird in the third clip. But it’s definitely noticeable in that last one.

Anyways, good job on doing all that work though! It’s nice to actually see these options are like playing out rather than just talking about them.

sherlockpotter said:

The original thought was for it to replace “It was fear that kept me here,” to avoid retconning Luke’s arc in the last film. So it would go:

“I was was wrong (to stay here.) [pause] Lesson three: What are you most afraid of?”

So, it’s like the title “Lesson three” opens the entire topic of “facing your fears,” rather than just buttoning up the final moral of the lecture.

This could also work.

Neerb said:

It could be implicitly one lesson. Courage and the righteous duty of the Jedi are stronger than Rey’s “evil blood.” After all, Luke’s got experience there.

Yeah, this is how I’m thinking about it.

Hmm… You know, I’m going to be completely honest. This might not work out for the Rey Palpatine version. JXEDitor’s initial idea was to use the “Lesson Three” line to replace “Because you’re a Palpatine”. Because of that, there was a natural gap in the dialogue where the new line was shuttled in.

Obviously, if there is a way to organically put it in along with the Palpatine line, that would absolutely be swell.

JEDIT:

You know what? We could always replace that “Rey” line with the “Lesson Three” line in the clip you posted Jar Jar. So, it would go:

“Because you’re a Palpatine.”

Rey reacts

Luke sits down and we don’t see his face. “Lesson Three”

“Some things are stronger than blood.”

What do you think?

Cinefy said:

Movies Remastered said:

Nev that is awesome! Beautiful work.

I’m mates with JX, What do you need?

I tried reworking JX’s 'third lesson audio and we talked about it a long time ago, shared it in here and everyone decided against using it.

Oh, wow! It’s amazing how things can turn in the span of a thread. Lol.

Would you happen to still have the link to your reworking?

Perfect, Nev.

😃

Ok, I finally found it. It’s made by this guy on YouTube named “JXEditor” (not sure if he’s a part of these forums or not). Anyways, the scene is… a lot rougher than I remember it being. But, it could be a good start in trying to figure out how to crack this nut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRdU7cTFwOo

Also Jar, if you’re still having any trouble finding any clips of Mark Hamill saying “three” for your pass, I found these HD YouTube videos of the Wing Commander games he was apart of in the 90’s. I think if you find any instance of him saying three, you could also take it and then “gruff up” his voice to make him sound like Luke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HEQxuG2Z9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II2EIjp-bww

JEDIT:

I just remembered he’s going to be in that Star Citizen game as well (which means you wouldn’t have to “gruff up” his voice. lol.) Here’s some videos that were circulating around 2015 with a couple of interviews plus a cutscene he’s in. Maybe these can help as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vqB5lD73dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vRE6LtYBHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQTcf2bnRhY

And finally, in regards to the new “night to day” Ahch-To scene… I know it’s pretty much locked in now. However, I was reminded of the TLJ announcement video that includes a shot of Skellig Michael that I had never seen before in the films. I thought it could be something to maybe look at and possibly replace the documentary footage I think the current scene has now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQQMLE4FuIQ

RogueLeader said:

Piggy backing off of your ideas a bit but… It would be dope if this shot we re-colored to be Exegol (maybe even doing some work to make the statue less Jedi-y and more Sith-y). After that, you could swap in whatever ship you want for it (either Ren’s TIE from either time he comes to the planet or Luke’s X-wing when Rey arrives).

Doing this could help with some of the pacing issues people might have with TROS (especially if it’s used for Ren’s initial arrival to Exegol following the Mustafar Minute).