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#1415895
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sherlockpotter said:

The original thought was for it to replace “It was fear that kept me here,” to avoid retconning Luke’s arc in the last film. So it would go:

“I was was wrong (to stay here.) [pause] Lesson three: What are you most afraid of?”

So, it’s like the title “Lesson three” opens the entire topic of “facing your fears,” rather than just buttoning up the final moral of the lecture.

This could also work.

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#1415880
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hmm… You know, I’m going to be completely honest. This might not work out for the Rey Palpatine version. JXEDitor’s initial idea was to use the “Lesson Three” line to replace “Because you’re a Palpatine”. Because of that, there was a natural gap in the dialogue where the new line was shuttled in.

Obviously, if there is a way to organically put it in along with the Palpatine line, that would absolutely be swell.

JEDIT:

You know what? We could always replace that “Rey” line with the “Lesson Three” line in the clip you posted Jar Jar. So, it would go:

“Because you’re a Palpatine.”

Rey reacts

Luke sits down and we don’t see his face. “Lesson Three”

“Some things are stronger than blood.”

What do you think?

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#1415824
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Cinefy said:

Movies Remastered said:

Nev that is awesome! Beautiful work.

I’m mates with JX, What do you need?

I tried reworking JX’s 'third lesson audio and we talked about it a long time ago, shared it in here and everyone decided against using it.

Oh, wow! It’s amazing how things can turn in the span of a thread. Lol.

Would you happen to still have the link to your reworking?

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#1415696
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Ok, I finally found it. It’s made by this guy on YouTube named “JXEditor” (not sure if he’s a part of these forums or not). Anyways, the scene is… a lot rougher than I remember it being. But, it could be a good start in trying to figure out how to crack this nut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRdU7cTFwOo

Also Jar, if you’re still having any trouble finding any clips of Mark Hamill saying “three” for your pass, I found these HD YouTube videos of the Wing Commander games he was apart of in the 90’s. I think if you find any instance of him saying three, you could also take it and then “gruff up” his voice to make him sound like Luke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HEQxuG2Z9o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II2EIjp-bww

JEDIT:

I just remembered he’s going to be in that Star Citizen game as well (which means you wouldn’t have to “gruff up” his voice. lol.) Here’s some videos that were circulating around 2015 with a couple of interviews plus a cutscene he’s in. Maybe these can help as well?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vqB5lD73dw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vRE6LtYBHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQTcf2bnRhY

And finally, in regards to the new “night to day” Ahch-To scene… I know it’s pretty much locked in now. However, I was reminded of the TLJ announcement video that includes a shot of Skellig Michael that I had never seen before in the films. I thought it could be something to maybe look at and possibly replace the documentary footage I think the current scene has now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQQMLE4FuIQ

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#1415690
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Unusual <strong>Sequel Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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RogueLeader said:

Jedi statue

Piggy backing off of your ideas a bit but… It would be dope if this shot we re-colored to be Exegol (maybe even doing some work to make the statue less Jedi-y and more Sith-y). After that, you could swap in whatever ship you want for it (either Ren’s TIE from either time he comes to the planet or Luke’s X-wing when Rey arrives).

Doing this could help with some of the pacing issues people might have with TROS (especially if it’s used for Ren’s initial arrival to Exegol following the Mustafar Minute).

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#1415662
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:
Regardless, there are some talented people on here so if one of them wants to take a stab at making Luke say “Lesson Three” I’m sure it would end up sounding better.

Yeah, but I’d feel bad about adding yet another thing onto someone else’s plate. Lol.

I’m currently scouring the Redux thread, trying to find the example (if it’s even in there). Hopefully, it’s not from someone who’s been banned or has completely ghosted the forum and is willing to maybe take another crack at it!

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#1415657
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Huh, I was always under the impression that Luke actually said “Lesson Three” in that deleted scene. “I was wrong.” lol.

Also, to be 100% honest, I actually remember seeing an edit from somewhere that basically did what I was proposing (i.e. making him have a “Lesson Three” during the ghost scene) I can’t recall where I saw it though (it might even be in the TROS Redux thread, but it may have just been some Reddit thread I once saw). I just thought it could be a cool idea and wanted to bring it up.

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#1415547
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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jarbear said:

It would be a, not sure what to call it, but a way to “connect” to TLJ making a connection about ‘the’ third lesson.

Of course the lessons back in TLJ was to disuade Rey from training as a Jedi, or “prove” the Jedi were wrong, but it would be a fun “twist” he plays on the lack of the third lesson (since Rey left) from the last movie and “converts it” to an actual “Jedi good/right” lesson.

Kinda would be a fun play on the whole lessons thing from the last movie.

Yeah. This was basically my thinking on including a “Lesson Three”.

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#1415471
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sherlockpotter said:

Why don’t I remember that line? But honestly…

“I’m never leaving this place. I’m doing what you di-”
“I was wrong. [beat] Lesson Three [Rey looks up] What are you most afraid of?”

That would be really good. Ties up a loose end from TLJ too, and creates a bonus through line between the two films.

RogueLeader said:

If you were going to imply this was her third lesson, I think you also could word it like, “Lesson Three: Confronting fear is the destiny of a Jedi. Your destiny…” But that makes sense too, like he is beginning her third lesson.

Either one of these would work solidly.

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#1415110
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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NeverarGreat said:

Okay, here is the new attempt at implementing these critiques:

https://vimeo.com/520121712

Password: fanedit

The fireside chat is now even darker, with much more roto work.

The second half of the Hut scene is now lightened to merge more seamlessly with the next scene.

The sunrise scene has a grade which is now at 50% strength to keep a bit more of the original look.

WOW. This is perfect.

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#1415043
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sherlockpotter said:
During the flashback, I also replaced the Blue Leia lightsaber with the Ascendant Purple Leia lightsaber, without further color corrections. I like the purple; what can I say?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RlWcPXdX0IRIxwlAXvZOYx2Zg4lLr7lu/view?usp=sharing

Seeing as I was the first critical voice for the first pass on this scene, I just have to say… this is a VAST improvement. The work that you and Nevar have done for this scene looks really good and it’s definitely on the right track, if not already locked in.

I will say for this version, I’m not really digging the purple in the X-Wing lift part. Which also brings me to another thing I wanted to talk about: I know you all are wanting that part to have some orangish look to it. However, I think it would be okay to keep the original lighting from the scene for that part. Frankly, I was never a fan of the orange look for Ahch-To that was introduced in TLJ. I think keeping that white, “Mists of Avalon” sort of look is really great and hearkens back to the first time Rey and Luke met (in the final scene of TFA).

Again, that’s just me.

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#1414637
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

Here’s a full mockup of the Ach-To sequence, featuring a regrade by NeverArGreat:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UpnKp8-35PMwuWDXiv2ZjIvsZ93y0BE0/view?usp=sharing

I’m going to be 100% honest… I’m not a fan of this. 😕

I’m not entirely sure why but something is kind of off about it (don’t really understand what day cycle is supposed to be happening). Plus, I think it’s a change that doesn’t really need to be implemented in the film in the first place. I was fine with the Ahch-To sequence as is in regards to the time of day it was set.

But, that’s just me. Others might like it.

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#1414564
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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NeverarGreat said:

That’s correct. SirRidley did most of the work on the Leia scene timecode and I just tackled one complicated timecode shot in that scene. It’s really painstaking, and this page details how I did it with moving objects in the frame:

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Force-Awakens-The-Starlight-Project-WIP-WORKPRINT-RELEASED/id/54912/page/7

There might be better technology now which can better automate the process.

Holy cow! That’s AMAZING work right there.

I really hope more recent tech can help take the timecode off of the other deleted scenes. It would really help with a lot of TFA edits.

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#1414559
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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NeverarGreat said:

Hey, I’m all for someone removing the timecodes and attempting to include the Falcon deleted scene in this movie…for totally selfless reasons of course 😉

Slightly off-topic but has anyone been able to successfully remove the time code from it? Or even from the rest of the TFA deleted scenes for that matter?

I do really love the Kylo Falcon scene and that was a deleted scene I couldn’t understand why it got deleted. However, I do think it would fit better in an edit of TFA rather than this TROS edit.

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#1414558
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:
And I’m really not sure laser fire would help the forest Mustafar shot. Actually, and this is reeeeaaaaally getting into the weeds, the presence of a single pine tree in the main sequence along with mostly a different type than seen during that shot leads me to feel better implying that those three TIEs had to fly a little ways to get to the battle itself.

Ah, well… It was worth a shot. lol.

Thank you for giving it some thought though. 😄

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#1414554
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

Also, here’s the list of V2 changes and their status. (This is literally copied and pasted from my own list, so it’s not articulated well.)

  • Try to make Kylo say “we’ve become a dyad in the Force” (being worked on, possibly finished)

  • Try to depict a dusk>night>sunrise cycle on Ach-To

  • Use sherlockpotter’s medal shot and adjust placement ✅

  • If anyone can do it, depict Pasaana puppet show as depicting Luke’s heroics from Crait

  • Remove three lines: “He wanted her alive” immediately before we cut to Ach-To and “I never wanted you dead, I wanted you here.” AND “…for my grandchild to come home.”✅

  • Add 21C Peasant’s and Movies Remastered’s Vader Castle to the opening Mustafar sequence ✅

  • Add two shots featuring Coruscant to the Star Destroyer conference room scene ✅

  • Use Vader’s TIE rather than shuttle due to the poll results ✅

  • new shot from MR to move “T minus five” line to before exiting hyperspace (not sure about this one yet, may leave as original)

Remove line “from the Southern shore” from 3PO’s translation, as that was when a protractor was involved, and now it’s merely a coordinate followed by mystical guidance ✅

  • Restructure the space battle opening slightly like DominicCobb ✅

  • Can Rey’s mother not mention her name? We all liked the idea that Rey named herself, per the X-wing helmet’s Aurabesh translation in TFA.✅

  • Use the crackly saber effect courtesy of kewlfish and Luka Frik and MR (being worked on)

  • Luke’s Jedi haircut (jonh needs to fix a couple things then skenera can de-blue)

Excellent! Thank you for this, Hal.

I wish one additional minor thing could be added onto the list (adding laser bolts to the TIE Fighter flyover shot during the Mustafar Minute), but it’s such a minuscule thing and I’m the only one really bothered about it.

And before anyone asks or quips… I would totally do it if I could. But I have no idea how to even approach something like that editing wise.

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#1414551
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I would be doing it in private, but I’m not going to let him take public jabs at me twice in this forum today without at least acknowledging it publicly as well:

Movies Remastered said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I ask that because Poppa’s wonderful work was buried in our previous discussion so it was likely whoever was willing to do it didn’t notice it was finished.

Dude, I understand your excitement but chill out! You seem to be dominating this thread lately, no wonder things are getting lost.

Movies Remastered said:

Or maybe just come up with some ideas that you can execute yourself to actually help lighten the load on others?

I’ll be quiet now. If he wants to talk to me we can just message each other.

I completely understand that MR was being completely flippant. However, I don’t really fully blame him for being angry.

He’s right… Things are getting lost in the shuffle when people (yourself included, Jar Jar) just go on this big 8-page argument about what exactly a Dyad is instead of dropping it and/or moving it into another thread.

I honestly think BOTH OF YOU need to chill out. And that’s all I’ll say on the matter.

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#1414545
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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DZ-330 said:

Hey guys, I’m not a mod but let’s have grumpy discussion elsewhere. I swear this thread is turning into the General Discussion page.

Do we have a remaining things list for V2? Any proposed changes that have yet to be owned by someone that we would like to try and have done by V2?

Not that it is my decision but I think we should try solidifying a list of remaining things for this edit and any other discussion could go to the TROS Fanedit Ideas thread.

AGREED.

I think the only major change that needs to be done for THIS edit is the Pasaana Puppet Pals scene.

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#1414543
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I for one think the Falcon Scene is completely unnecessary, especially for THIS edit. If it was for MR’s edit, I could understand why it’s brought up.

Also, must we be airing our dirty laundry on here, guys? Really? This couldn’t be relegated to Private Messages? This thread is already pretty unwieldy, especially hot off the circular Dyad Debate… -_-