benduwan

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Further comparisons:

I used just the first part of EP5, because the rest should still be put in sync; color wise, difference of the regraded and the original varies usually from null to small; this is due to the fact RaiTre AR is around 2.0:1, so the automatic color matching script can’t be always 100% accurate; but it does a pretty good job, IMHO.

If there is some interest, I could manage to make a test clip - who knows, maybe also a new project with just color regrading… 😉

to much pink

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Color grading preliminary test - top HDTV regraded using RaiTre as reference, bottom HDTV untouched:

(Blu-ray will look like almost the same, by the way)

to much yellow

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A question for everybody: what do you think about the idea of using RaiTre color grading as reference for the OT version? http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-color-grading-thoughts/id/52432#1018988

i think the RaiTre colors look more real.
make the colors as they is and not as wish…(correct spelling??)

about jamie benning…
is there someone with good conections to him and ask for help with this?

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HELP NEEDED!

• a really big fan who knows anything about Star Wars, and, of course, released video - all the original DVDs and BDs are mandatory; more knowledge on video material like laserdiscs, VHS, TV and web documentaries, trailers, teasers etc. is really welcome; he will help to find out as many deleted scenes as possible - even the two seconds long ones hidden in some trailer! found, benduwan; also, pittrek and darth_ender help a lot!!!

i think Jambe Davdar aka Jamie Benning would be a great help with this.
maybe he is the biggest fan with incredible knowledge of star wars.

SPECIAL THANKS:

• benduwan - general “deleted scene” guru, his help is incredible!

that sounds good…😃
but i´m only a help with the OT (thats always the best parts) 😃.

regards

MWilson said:

benduwan said:

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• find a color version (even in the lowest resolution/bitrate) to use as color reference - a really remote chance, but who knows, we have the Editdroid laserdisc, after all!

partialy color:

https://picload.org/image/ralgraaw/2016-12-15at06-45-35.jpg
https://picload.org/image/ralgrala/2016-12-15at06-44-01.jpg

Benduwan, do you have a copy of the cantina scene like this!? I mean not blown out, doesn’t have to be color. That could be workable! 😃

watch empire of dreams

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• find a color version (even in the lowest resolution/bitrate) to use as color reference - a really remote chance, but who knows, we have the Editdroid laserdisc, after all!

partialy color:

https://picload.org/image/ralgraaw/2016-12-15at06-45-35.jpg
https://picload.org/image/ralgrala/2016-12-15at06-44-01.jpg

German version: sorry, but I will NOT do any foreign crawl; for audio, I want to use just English; for subs, I’m still thinking how to properly handle the English subs, for both main movie (that will be literally divided in small chuncks) and deleted scenes; once found the way, further languages could be added - the best choice here will be to add the main european languages, French, German, Italian, Spanish.

i´m ask to a german speaker

Time to buy a new computer just for this project, because the old one is becoming too slow for this… and HDD space is almost over!

make a donation.i will help you.

Last thing: would you like to get an episode release when it’s ready, and wait for the next one,

yes.i think the release could named as a testing version.
so every one can watched it and make suggestions for the final release.

thanks for the info at all.
regards

hello andrea
what was the goal for a release? christmas?
i think you should release it next year.
maybe you´ll find more scenes,more testings,more corrections and more and more…
i like a good one,not volume after volume,because there more changes.
take all the time you need and make it exciting.

is sombody work on a cleanup the deleted scenes?
colorisation the b&w scenes?
spfx and audio?

and is here a german speaker there will do a release of this with german language,crawl und subtitles for deleted scenes?

thanks all where involved in this projekt.

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Ehr… the landing shot is open matte… and not exactly the same one of the movie

yes,i see this.but why it will be changed?
is it from a menu?

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benduwan said:

why do you cut some seconds?
it´s not necessary,i think…

Because the slow motion is 2x; if I will use a, let’s say, 2.2x, it will stutter a bit… so, I prefer to cut few seconds of a ship arrival, which are not important for the story.

Apart this, what do you think of the clip?

what is the difference in this clip?

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Latest test clip - surprise!
https://fs06n4.sendspace.com/dl/32dd42eb6f1d07c95bfd49829497493b/58489a6b3bfb07d4/qk6d0v/EPISODE_6_scene1.ts

Waiting for feedbacks!!!

why do you cut some seconds?
it´s not necessary,i think…

Dat_SW_Guy said:

Here’s one deleted scene I found:

maybe darth_ender can send you a link for his deleted sw collection.there are many pics from unused scenes.

does anybody know where this scene could be placed?
it´s a delet scene from a 18sec trailer/teaser from the star wars bonus dvd 2004.
https://picload.org/image/raaicooi/2016-12-09at00-59-54.jpg

i think it´s after r2 drive up on the top of the sail barke:
https://picload.org/image/raaicowp/2016-12-09at01-02-04.jpg

(i don´t know how upload pics…)

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Thanks Bewy! I think it’s a nice shot, should I include it as deleted scene?

nooooooooooooooo…
it´s only a outtake.

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benduwan said:

• *We Got The Power Rinzler ebook (01:44) ****
  Same as TC, but cheesy song… worst than the original - difficult to believe, uh?

make a splitscreen between the special edition,the gout and this one after the death star explosion.
there are some scenes that not in the other one.

I’ll do!

i´ve done it.
here the test clip:

https://mega.nz/#!nlBggKLY!M3AmdsjTZN22rfYPP2xtlIacusJMM8Mhjh9lTXwHmR0

upper left end song,upper right gout,down left se,down right trailer clip.

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SCENES THAT WILL NOT BE USED

Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi

• *We Got The Power Rinzler ebook (01:44) ****
  Same as TC, but cheesy song… worst than the original - difficult to believe, uh?

make a splitscreen between the special edition,the gout and this one after the death star explosion.
there are some scenes that not in the other one.

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Forgot to copy here some ones from the * database * … now everything should be ok.

noooo…sorry.it´s late at this time.Your eyes can deceive you.try again,later.

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Thanks for the corrections, everything is right now!

nope.try again.

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

• Stormtroopers on Death Star corridor unknown (00:10) ****

empire of dreams,bluray deleted scenes and bluray behind the scenes.

• C-3PO walking on Tatooine unknown (00:07) ***
• Swing Across Chasm unknown (00:08) ***
• R2 grabs a little creature from the X-wing unknown (00:03) ***

answered before

Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

• Luke falls + rebels on Hoth unknown (00:00:20) **½

answered before,but show me pics or clip.😎

SCENES THAT MUST BE EVALUATED

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

• Before Swing Across Chasm Rinzler ebook (00:36) ***
  Should be tested to see if the added bit of shot could work.

and empire of dreams

Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

• Lando two shots Old trailer (00:04) ***

answered before

SCENES THAT WILL NOT BE USED

Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

• Vader Vs Obi Wan Duel Rinzler ebook (00:22) ***
• Daily Vader Throttles Captain Rinzler ebook (00:50) ***
• Lapti Nek extended song laserdisc (02:48) **½

answered before.you didn´t read it?? 😎

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UPDATE

• Episode 6 - different take of R2 and 3PO entering Jabba’s palace

Test clip - taken from a BD documentary - * 30s, 37.9s (download link valid until 2017-02-02)
https://fs10n4.sendspace.com/dl/538f88a69d03e3605777640c35f63dd3/58448bc41a4806dc/xkiz11/test3.ts
(left the russian audio, just to be the clip werdiert than usual!)

i don´t like them.it´s a behind the scenes view and not necessary for destroy a complete scene…my 2 cents 😉

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SCENES THAT ALMOST SURELY WILL BE USED

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

• Leia and Tarkin 2 unknown (00:18) ***

empire of dreams

• Tarkin and Vader unknown (00:04) ***

bluray in a behind the scenes

• Luke answer at Ben’s hut unknown (00:18) ***
• C-3PO walking on Tatooine unknown (00:07) ***
• Swing Across Chasm unknown (00:08) ***
• R2 grabs a little creature from the X-wing unknown (00:03) ***

empire of dreams

Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

• Han and Leia kiss on Bespin behind the scene (01:12) ***
• Boba Fett on Bespin unknown (00:03) ****
• Dagobah monster unknown (00:04) ****
• Luke Bacta Mask unknown (00:02) **½

empire of dreams

• Luke in Bacta tank unknown (00:00:20) ****

should be a trailer

• Luke falls + rebels on Hoth unknown (00:00:20) **½

maybe clapperboard,empire of dreams,from star wars to jedi,german making of the empire strikes back,dutch making empire strikes back,michael parbot making of the empire strikes back (2 versions),The Making Of Empire SP-FX,music by john williams,The Risk Business…

SCENES THAT MUST BE EVALUATED

Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

• Stormtrooper Search 2 unknown (00:09) **½

holiday special.but it´s the same as in the movie.thats a alternate take.

• The Search for R2-D2 2 unknown (00:38) **

empire of dreams

• Han and Chewie in the hangar *documentary (00:12) **½

The Making of Star Wars

Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

• Lando two shots Old trailer (00:04) ***
  Should check if these shots are in the 1997 SE and following

there are more shots on trailers: lando in the falcon up for lukes rescue,escape on bespin to a locked door,walking to the landing platform for welcome han ,(in background you see lobot).did i miss one?

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SCENES THAT WILL NOT BE USED

Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

• Vader Vs Obi Wan Duel Rinzler ebook (00:22) ***

???vader vs obi wan??? i can´t remember…there was maybe a jedi mindtrick on me…

• Daily Vader Throttles Captain Rinzler ebook (00:50) ***

which captain??

• Lapti Nek extended song laserdisc (02:48) **½
  Low quality 4:3, will not be good enough if cut to 2.35:1, even if enhanced; plus, if used, any CGI Lapti Nek should be removed…

lapti nek in empire??new wampa version…😃

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Strange, can be true… but not worse than EP4 CGI Jabba - any version! 😄
I do think that is a nice “alternate take” to add to the project, that is becaming not only an “add deleted scenes to get a longer version”, but more as an alternative version…

will this version 4?

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UPDATE

• Episode 5 - Darth Vader and Luke encounter is “enhanced”

Test clip - used a pan & zoom take instead of a static take; taken from DVD menu - 31s 40MB (download link valid until 2017-02-02)
https://fs11n5.sendspace.com/dl/fac5571146edd406be71a6272b8ad7f9/58445e6973bc22d0/wkr8i4/menu-test2.ts

feedbacks needed!

looks strange but good… 😮

darth_ender said:

As for the additional scenes being added, there are complications for certain. I am with benduwan, I would love to have the most complete edit possible.
Thank you for doing this. I have always wanted to see as extended a version as possible. I too care much less about quality and just want to see a complete extended edit.

thanks for your support.maybe he can do two versions.

There are two versions of Luke and C-3PO in the up close speeder with the fake backdrop. One scene was found in Empire of Dreams. It starts a little sooner and carries a bit of dialogue not carried in the version found on the BDs. It is a different take.

i combine that in my edition.watch closley.
you will be a great help for andrea to search more stuff darth.

and thanks andrea for making my dreams come true.
thanks a lot.

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I think DVD menus are the same all over the world - there are three (or four?) each, and they appear at random AFAIK - but I’m pretty sure there is a way in hardware player to choose (or change) them.

Foreign language: this is a thing I’m thinking about since the beginning… it will be hard just with the english track, so I thought to use only that. I’d like to add subtitles for the whole movie + deleted scenes in other languages, but it will be really hard… 😦

maybe a german fan can do that. laserschwert? or others…😃
i´m not so technical…😦

i think there was a landing scene at tatooine from EPVI by change the menu in the german dvd…but don´t sure…
will all the movies have german language with german subs in the deleted scenes?
and do you add the sandstorm scene in EPVI?i like them…😃

MWilson said:

nightstalkerpoet said:

I know this might be odd… has anyone tried the color match tool on similar frames that have been reduced to black and white, then applied the algorithm to the deleted scenes? I understand it probably won’t work, but worth the try.

To which color matching tool do you refer? That could be helpful for me 😃
I uploaded another test, the trailer for ANH. I wrote a new script, hopefully it can come a bit closer.

https://vimeo.com/194071406

maybe this helps:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Colorized-Classics/id/9758/page/1