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#64770
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An article of lies and disgust - George Lucas talks re the 2004 OT SE DVD release...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/64770/action/topic#64770
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"At the beginning, people went, "Don't you like it?" I said, "Well, the film only came out to be 25 or 30 percent of what I wanted it to be." They said, "What are you talking about?" So finally, I stopped saying that, but if you read any interviews for about an eight- or nine-year period there, it was all about how disappointed I was and how unhappy I was and what a dismal experience it was. You know, it's too bad you need to get kind of half a job done and never get to finish it."

Does anyone know of any interviews that speak of this?
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#64752
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THX 1138 - What a Special Edition SHOULD Be.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/64752/action/topic#64752
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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
I agree RTO, the THX-1138 SE rocks. I can't imagine how great the SW SEs would have been if George Lucas would have applied the same sensibility while considering and applying changes to the films.


I can't belive I'm hearing this from someone who opposes the Star Wars SEs! It's not a question of improving the movie or not, it's about preserving the original films... While I am able to watch the original SW, and I did, I will never watch THX1138 in its original form, and I never did.


Neither have I and couldn't care less. If the THX 1138 is as much improved as the Star Wars Special Editions then there will be no need to see the original version. It probably sucks in comparison. I will be renting the movie this weekend to see George Lucas's first movie.


That has to be the funniest thing I've read all day.
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#63990
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Kerry Lied
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63990/action/topic#63990
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Originally posted by: jimbo
Also to bad karma if you believe a women should have the right to kill a child may God have mercy on your soul. Wait no he won't. If it were up to me id excecute every women and every doctor who commited an abortion. On the charge of senseless murder of innocent human lives.


A fetus is not a human child. I also added that once the fetus is fully formed it should not be removed. Grow up a little and realize that some choices just have to be made. Would you rather the child grow up in a loveless family and on the streets?

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#63972
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Kerry Lied
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63972/action/topic#63972
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Originally posted by: Regicidal_Maniac
Yes go with a man who was out getting coked to the eyeballs and picking up hookers rather than reporting for duty.


This is still up in the air. Some of the documents may have been falsified. Look here for more info.

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Go with a man who lied to the world about WMDs, a lie which cost the lives of men, women and children (mostly Iraqis though so who cares right?)


He did not "lie," he simply went with the best information available at the time, which was coming from not only US Intelligence, but MI6 and Russian Intelligence as well. He wasn't the only one that went with it. There are more than enough of Kerry quotes to show that he was a great believer in WMDs in Iraq, but he has since "flip-flopped" on that issue. Here's just one: "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Said on Oct. 9, 2002.

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Go with a man who believes in the coming 'end of days' prophesied in an ancient fairytale which itself is based on the Greek myth of Zeus and Herakles, a VERY simple man who takes his orders from an imaginary friend.


Bush's faith is no different from other president's faiths. You think every other president before him was an atheist? Many other president's and statesmen have mentioned God in their speeches. This is no different.

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Go with a man who will limit a woman's right to choice.


I'll have to agree with you on this. Regardless of those "rotten.com" pictures (Like these people have never seen a surgical operation before...) women should have the right to chose what they want. Though granted there should be a deadline. To be honest it is quite sick to remove a fully formed fetus.

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Go with a man who is so dangerously stupid he almost did himself in with a bag of pretzels.


You've never choked in your whole life before?

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Go with a man who has created a climate of fear to rally conseratives and forcibly remove freedom and liberties from private citizens.


Right, this again. If you're referring to the PATRIOT Act, it's done nothing of the sort.

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Go with a man who's brother helped rig a Presidential election when most people 'voted for the other guy'.


The United States does not operate on a popular vote system. We use the electoral college. Look it up sometime.

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Go with a man who took the greatest outpouring of grief, sympathy and support that the world has ever seen and turned it around into outrage and disgust.


Don't understand what you mean by this...


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Go with a man whose only smudges that the Republican dirt machine can uncover are possible overstatements most likely based in fact FROM THIRTY FUCKING YEARS AGO or go with a man who is lying to you now and will continue to lie to the world in the future as long as it suits the interests of Carlyle and Halliburton.


The only smudges? Republican dirt machine? I suggest you look further into both candidate rather than taking such a biased view against one.

Oh, and to reply to Jimbo:

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His picture hangs in a Vietnamise muesum where he is credited as a hero for helping the communist win the war


Kerry visited Vietnam in 1993 as part of a US delegation that was looking into finding missing servicemen, where the photo in question arises from ( if you want to see it, it's here). As for what the museum says, if it does say it is crediting him, it's pure propaganda. Wouldn't be the first time.
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#63428
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Irvin Kershner on Special Editions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/63428/action/topic#63428
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Originally posted by: JediKiller
Where exactly in that link does it say that Kershner considers the SE superior?


"Next up was Irvin Kershner, the director of The Empire Strikes Back, with some interesting comments about his role in making the second Star Wars film. The first question had to do with his opinion on the changes made for the special edition (yes, this crowd definitely favored the originals!), to which Kershner replied that he really didn't feel that the film was changed at all: there was just the added snow monster, the new window views in the city, and enhanced color and sound. From his point of view, it was clearly perfectly fine and nothing to even consider as significant. "

A little more than halfway down. He doesn't really say they're superior, he just says the changes aren't significent.
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#62532
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So whats better? Phantom or Clones?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62532/action/topic#62532
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Originally posted by: Jedi Master DJR


1. Do you think a negative opinion of the prequals is influenced by the explictly negative opinions you find on EVERY message board in some form or another?


Generally speaking, I'd say yes. I think people's opinions are influenced quite a bit by what they read elsewhere. If you read about how much a movie sucks, chances are you'll watch it and just be thinking of the bad things people have said about it.
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2. Conversely, do you think going to more GL-support site message boards like TFN or watching alot of documentry material by Mr. Lucas influences positive opinions of the prequals?


Not so much the GL-supported sites. Most of the people there tend to be idiots and are more yes-men than they are fans. But I do sometimes get the slightest bit of respect when watching some of the documentaries, mainly the ones on how they did models, etc. But that all goes away after reading the tons of docus on CGing characters, especially the one on Yoda.

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3. For fans in the middle, do you think the combination of extreme opinions on both sides inclines them more to stay on the fence?


I think most of them will lean towards then newer DVDs, as they seem to be only interested in getting entertained out of Star Wars, which the new ones will probably still have. They'll watch them and when they get to the changes, they'll probably say "Oh well," and go on with their lives.

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4. For those who do not like the prequals only, do you buy the DVD's?


Yep. Got both of them. I find them to be alright, I really don't "not like" them (wow, how's that for good English?). If you've ever seen the final episode of MASH, it explains this well. Winchester resents having someone else take a book out of his series, even though he doesn't like it. When asked why, he says it completes the set and not having it is like having a missing tooth in a smile.

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And finally for what I can think of right now,

5. Do you think the impact of the theatrical box office and how many DVD's and VHS of both The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones have been sold has been primarily written off as "hype", dismissed, or other wise not discussed or considered that much?


I don't think amount of units sold and box office profits indicate a good or bad movie. There have been plenty of movies with low box-office results that were quite good, and plenty of movies with high profits that were bad. Money is not a good indicator of success.
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#62527
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Changes in 2004 DVDs
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62527/action/topic#62527
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Originally posted by: jimbo
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Originally posted by: Hal 9000
I'd like to think it's OK to simply watch the DVD rip to compare between the two and such, before deciding whether or not to buy them.


Whats not to buy. This is the Star Wars trilogy. We all know the Star Wars trilogy is worth owning.


It all depends on which version is worth owning, as it seems the terminology is nowadays. It's no different than deciding whether or not to buy a director's cut of a film.
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#62352
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What did we all expect from the Prequel Trilogy?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/62352/action/topic#62352
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Great monologue there. You seem to have taken a very intelligent view on the prequels without resorting to too much general bashing (IE, there seems to be a point to everything you said.

I don't think the prequels were "as bad as all that," but after reading SW Insider leading up to it (I have since canceled my subscription, thank Christ) and being a fan in general I expected quite a bit more. Most of the talent was wasted. Such a shame to see a great actor like Neeson being misused.

That being said, I look forward to Episode III. AOTC was a noticable improvement over TPM, and I'm hoping to see that same jump in quality.