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HelpMeObiWanKenobi said:

Boycott.
That's what I'll be doing to this blu-ray release because it's not the OOT.

George says it'll cost too much to remaster the OOT.
Sure, it'll cost a lot of money but that's maybe like .05% of what he's made on these movies and their 10,000 re-releases, box-sets, toys, dolls, shirts, lunchboxes, mugs, pajamas, pizza hut tie-ins?

If you love the OOT more than the SE's like I do, then when these blu-rays hit the shelves, May the Force be with You, to NOT buy them.

Don't worry he'll still have enough money (that .05% of his wealth) to apply towards remastering the OOT's for blu-ray release should he ever stop being a hypocritical, old clod.

20th Century Fox already spent $20 million back in the early 1990s restoring the original elements for the 1995 videos, no? Lucas is a liar.

kenkraly2007 said:

Bottom line  is some of you guys are judging a product before it comes out in the case of the star wars blu-ray set coming out in 2011. Wait until we see actual product images of the set then you can judge it.

I hope you're wearing flameproof clothing...

none said:

ImperialFighter wrote:

Which LF will no doubt hail as a great new 'creative choice' that fans should appreciate.

How could you not get down with purple space flying ships?

 

Hey, at least those TIE blasts are now green instead of yellow :p

I don't regret being a Star Wars fan back in the day, in the early 1980s -- they were good times.

Using "shoulds" is not a healthy way of thinking either... though I understand why you feel that way.

see you auntie said:

@ Avoidz re: Raiders of the Lost Ark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIH46G9_3SU

There was a better version (split screen I think) going around but the link above is enough to highlight the difference.

Thanks. Yeah, I looked that video up when it was mentioned before. I don't see why they bothered to change that shot; it was always one of my favorite movie vfx sequences.

Unfortunately it's an ongoing initiative at LFL to tinker/meddle/ruin good scenes from their library of films. And Steven Spielberg, I'm looking at you too.

digitalfreaknyc said:

avoidz said:

Baronlando said:

(Also, on the subject of using TV broadcasts to predict possible future blu-rays, Raiders is on USA this week, if anyone is curious to see if that new CGI cliff is still in there.)

I've seen Raiders twice now on TV recently, and both times I'd swear that cliff scene looks different (and I liked the original vfx). I don't recall it ever being mentioned as a change in the film, other than the boulder poles, snake reflection, truck pole that were digitally removed. Damn. More LFL meddling...

 That's because it's new.  That's a new change for the HD version.

Are there any other changes to the HD edition? Or is it now like the OT; an ongoing exercise of CG "improvements" by the increasingly senile Spielberg and Lucas...

Baronlando said:

(Also, on the subject of using TV broadcasts to predict possible future blu-rays, Raiders is on USA this week, if anyone is curious to see if that new CGI cliff is still in there.)

I've seen Raiders twice now on TV recently, and both times I'd swear that cliff scene looks different (and I liked the original vfx). I don't recall it ever being mentioned as a change in the film, other than the boulder poles, snake reflection, truck pole that were digitally removed. Damn. More LFL meddling...

Tobar said:

Now that's a nice lookin' transfer!

But you still can't polish that turd.

I don't care about the bad color timing... These aren't the films we're looking for.

Is praise of the prequels like saying which dog turd doesn't smell as bad?

And how does Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure rate?

budwhite quoted:

Just thought you guys might like to know, my dad just sat beside John Lowry on a 20 minute flight. He started talking to him about restorations, and Mr. Lowry told him that the restoration for The Abyss is already done and in the can. He also had a few other tidbits of info about other projects:

Apparently they're working on the Titanic restoration/3d-izing at the moment and they say it looks phenomenal. James Cameron has been heavily involved in this, even go so far as to tell them what sort of depth of field to use on different parts of the image during some scenes. Apparently it looks so good that it's hard to tell it wasn't shot in 3d in the first place.

A 3D sideshow is such a respectful way to treat a tragedy.

For me, the original Star Wars Trilogy hasn't aged; I still very much enjoy the 1977, 1980, 1983 theatrical movies. I have fond memories of all the Kenner figures and vehicles I played with in the early 1980s, and listening to the SW LP again and again.

I can't say how many times I looked at the few pictures of the Millennium Falcon in an old model magazine, admiring its awesomeness and wanting to build a replica (the Kenner toy was functional, but big and bulky) :)

The modern Star Wars I just can't stand. The prequels are offensive. After the "special editions" I lost all respect for Lucas and LFL. The non-anamorphic "bonus" DVDs just sealed my disdain for the modern franchise as it had become.

So for me, there's the "golden age" of SW, from the early '80s to the mid-1990s. After that, I don't want to know.

Anchorhead said:

 

It reads to me as though that was his idea for Star Wars III, so that they can both still be in Star Wars IV.

Baron is correct.  People were coming up with stuff regularly back then.  Everyone involved had a take. It was all just guessing.

The article is a perfect example of what it was like for us before the internet.  You got your nerd news in small newspaper & magazine blurbs, and you took whatever you could get your hands on.  And you saved it in a drawer, to reread constantly - at least I did.  Nerddom moved at a snail's pace back then.

 

Yes, he is speculating about Star Wars III and IV. He just guessed right about TESB's revelation (except that Luke's father wasn't "long lost").

vbangle said:

Go back and re-watch that scene and tell me if you think the quality and feel of the cinematics fit with the rest of the Jedi movie....I don't think so.

I'm not one way or the other on this extra scene (I just don't care anymore), but I find many extra or deleted scenes don't feel like they would fit into the movie I've watched a dozen or more times and become familiar with.

With no proper original versions on DVD or Blu-ray, I'm done with Star Wars.

As Princess Leia would say: "No thanks."

Who knows how much pain and suffering those second-rate "bonus" DVDs have inflicted on OT Star Wars fans.

Well when GL said in early development "Jar Jar is the key to the whole thing", that was a bad idea right there; he hadn't given up yet.

Maybe the "key" was being the most marketable toy and mucho dollars for LFL.

^^ I agree. The creative team certainly seemed better, fresher back in the late 1970s and early 1980s. He relied on them a lot more to make his imagination a movie reality. Now it's done on computers with sycophants who are too afraid to say Jar Jar was a shit idea.

I love the dvdactive billboards.

A tad overpriced.

msycamore said:

Yeah, that site is a real bitch to navigate. Many good things there though.

The new Rinzler book is absolutely amazing, I've just read through half of it yet, but it's definitely worth the prize. Those who already own the old book will definitely need to pick this up as it also cover much pre and post-production, some comments here and there are taken from DVD commentaries and other interview sources to fill it out some, but otherwise it's Alan Arnold's tapes here, uncensored. Haven't noticed any usual revision-bullshit yet.

Hmm, yes, I was wondering if there would be any mention of the 1997 and 2004 meddling; perhaps towards the end of the book.

Thanks. It took a bit of looking though. There's some very good stuff on that site (I liked the archive video interviews in particular), it's just the Flash is slow and clumsy to navigate.

msycamore said:

robbottin said:

I'm looking for it, but a free digital copy is not a bad thing.

You can download the original Alan Arnold book in PDF format at the starwarsarchives.com

Interesting. Do you have a direct link to it because I can't find it, and that whole site is annoyingly designed entirely in Flash and is horrible to navigate.

Cheers.