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#259156
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
... It really is being lazy to act like Lucas' solution to Obi-Wan's apparant contradiction doesn't make any sense ... The whole saga is about points of view, and this is one of the showcases of that in action ... How could you possibly not appreciate that?
Where do you get off, levelling accusations like that at people?!!

If it's all about points of view, then you have efectively rendered this whole discussion null and void anyway.
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#259153
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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No, as usual, Mr. Tonic, you mistake our discussions here for some sort of grounded, legitamate, court-admissable testimony, in the case Go-Mer-Tonic vs. Anyone Who Speaks Ill Of Anything Even Remotely Pertaining To Star Wars (TM).

Why should we have any evidence to show you? We're just talking about a subject and throwing in our 2 cents' worth.

If you have anything to prove us wrong, then I'm sure we'd all like to see it. But I don't think you need to protect Mr. Luca$h's good name. He has enough lawyers already.

EDIT: AS FAR AS I KNOW!!

Phew! I've gotta be more careful...
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#259134
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
... his work is still there in the SEs. He wasn't slighted in any way, and the presence of CG does not take away from his work on the film.
Those sound dangerously like unqualified statements of fact, Mr. Tonic. Now, it wouldn't be fair if we let you get away with that, now would it? You don't let us away with it, do you?
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#259120
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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Originally posted by: BeeJay
The LaserDisc quality is not piss-poor quality, like a lot of people try to say. Of course it doesn't rank up with truly restored digital viewing, as it would have if they used the original negatives as the baseline for the September release.

By the same token, the old LaserDisc releases were rather crisp, don't you think?
Not if it were to be projected on to an even modestly sized cinema screen, no. Especially if compared with a 35mm print.
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#259118
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Wonderful disposition you have there. You must be a ball at family gatherings. Your remark was deliberately vacuous and disrespectful and I treated it with as much respect as it gave me.
Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
And nothing was contradicted, from a certain point of view.

I think it's the people who can't adjust their perceptions as they get new information that are the lazy ones.
Not if the alteration of perception is of such a degree as to render the person incapable of assessing the worth of the thing itself.

If I altered my perceptions of what is good food to the point where I regarded processed burgers as being as good as 100% ground beef steak patties, then I'd just be making a fool of myself.Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
It all makes perfect sense if you allow it to.
So does ANYTHING!!! It's not even remotely a good argument!
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#259066
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ANH screening with modelmaker Lorne Peterson...WHY ARE THEY SCREENING THE SE??
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What a sad state of affairs! I don't blame Lorne for wanting to make money from his book but I do wish he'd speak out on the fact that Luca$h et al are suppressing all attempts to screen the original incarnation of this ground-breaking FX work.

Still, maybe he doesn't mind it. Maybe he prefers the pixels.

This thread is depressing me...
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#259050
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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I was saying that I was thinking of Luke's new Jedi Order having a temple on the moon of Endor or Yavin, as I'm thinking in terms of the Empire not being overthrown at the end of ROTJ. They would therefore need somewhere away from Imperial scrutiny and Massassi already has temple buildings, too. Although, I imagine they may have been knocked about a bit after the Battle Of Yavin!
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#259034
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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Originally posted by: Obi Jeewhyen
(And yeah, I loved "I am your father." But it all went downhill from there, didn't it?)
This is it, really, for me. Several people on here have complained of the "universe-shrinking" of having all the characters related to each other, etc. I daresay Luca$h took it a little too far, especially with the slight suggestion that Palpatine's Sith Master may have created Anakin, or whatever. But my own theory is that the "universe-shrinking" effect all stems from the narrowed focus on Anakin Skywalker. As you rightly say, CO, Obi Jeewhyen, everything else is becoming background to the life story of Vader/Anakin. The reason SW and ESB are more interesting than any of the other movies is that they don't suffer from that narrow focus.
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#258902
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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I suppose that it ties in with the fact that I don't believe the way Anakin is shown to turn to the Dark Side. It just doesn't hold water for me. But it also doesn't sit well with OT Vader, either. The sudden outburst jars with his whole attitude on Mustafar and then when we catch up with him in the OT. It's just not Vader. Couple that with the fact that the whole scene seems to have been edited together from Young Frankenstein and I'm afraid it just leaves me cold.
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#258848
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What did the Prequel Trilogy need?
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Originally posted by: BeeJay
Nobody, it might be getting a bit off-topic. But I might like to have an explanation of what you mean by inconsistent. Emotions of turmoil can't all be the same from day to day or Star Wars movie to Star Wars movie ....emotions are like a storm, and they are always going up and down. Especially with Anakin Skywalker.
If I may, I think I feel the same way as Nobody on this one... er, in that I have the same opinion as the poster called Nobody, not... well, you know...

Xebeche... he who talk loud, say nothing...

Who are you travellin' with?

...Nobody!

Anyway...

It's that what we see and what we hear and what we know about his future are not consistent with each other, not that Anakin's emotional state should remain the same throughout. Anakin's responses seem inconsistent with his situation. I honestly feel that his responses to his surroundings and situations seem constantly at odds with who he is and who he will become.

The first example I would give is when he first speaks after being put in the suit. He's concerned about Padme. He's distraught that she's dead. Yet this, to me, is inconsistent with his character and situation. It's also the worst made scene in the saga in every possible way.
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#258843
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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Originally posted by: CO
Isn't it sad that we all find the ESB love story totally believable when it really is just a side story to the real story of Vader/Luke encounter on Cloud City, yet Lucas spends a whole frickin movie with Padme/Anakin falling in love in countless scenes and none of us believe it, or just can't bear to watch it anymore!
Desperately. It's all part of Luca$h's mistake of focusing entirely on Anakin/Vader, making everything else background to his story.
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#258840
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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I'm with you, CO!

I think the dialogue between Han, Leia, Chewie and Threepio, while trapped in the MF and on the run from most of the Imperial starfleet, is excellent.

I really think you're unfair to the writing of Leia's character. She's just been fighting to defend the rebel base on Hoth when she's forced to run, against her will. She gets trapped with Han and has to leave with him, bearing in mind how they've been getting on in the film so far. Not only that, but she has to share the ship with not just a chauvenist, but a big hairy animal and a prissy, cowardly motormouth as well. Add to this that they get further and further separated from the rest of the rebels in a ship that's falling apart around their ears and then wander into an asteroid field. After that, she's taken to meet the chauvenist's friend, who turns out to be a slimy charmer who's eyeing her up. Then it turns out that they've walked into a trap and they're bait for the nice guy, who she likes.

Considering that all she wants to do is get back with the rebels and get on with things, I think she holds it together pretty well.

Of course, all this is compounded by the fact that she is confused and very irritated by the fact that, despite all the things she hates about the chauvenist, she finds him irresistably attractive. This pisses her off no end.

Therein, I feel, lies ESB's greatest asset, in watching Princess Leia and Han Solo fall in love, despite themselves.