Apparently having a life, caring about quality, and liking Star Wars are mutually exclusive activities to some. I'd love to see the "lives" of some of these asshats.
Also, after reading those comments, I now no longer feel like America has the dumbest population.
You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.
TV's Frink said:
xhonzi said:
And to appease Mr. Frink:
Star Wars is coming to BD. And Criterion is not doing it.
To quote Warb...
*sigh*
I give up. Enjoy your Criterion thread, guys. I'll see you in September.
Sorry I hurt your lawn, mister.
He's clearly racist against Criterion. Clearly.
TV's Frink said:
Then let the thread die. I'm not interested in Criterion discussion, so I'd prefer it be in a thread I can safely ignore.
You could, theoretically, ignore individual posts, right? When I see something I don't want to read, I don't read it.
!! INCOMING CRITERION COMMENT !!
I do see people referring to "reference quality" as meaning "the best blu-ray has to offer" which I think that Criterion has achieved on every blu-ray I've seen. I think xhonzi is underestimating how good a film from 1954 can look on blu-ray when a quality print is properly transferred and restored. I think Seven Samurai looks better than most modern films shot in HD.
!! INCOMING STAR WARS ON BLU-RAY COMMENT !!
I am very curious to see how SW looks with regard to film grain on Blu-Ray.
TV's Frink said:
Seriously, could we get back to SW on Blu? Someone could easily open up a "What if Criterion did SW" thread here, or a General Criterion thread in off-topic.
What more is there to say? I hate the list of features. I love the list of features. /thread
xhonzi said:
asterisk8 said:
Criterion is the industry leader in reference-quality when it comes to old films.
When you say 'reference quality' do you mean
1. The Best PQ/AQ to be had.
or
2. The Best PQ/AQ a particular film can have.
?
Huh? What's the difference?
The best picture/audio quality to be had means going back to original negatives for a new transfer followed by meticulous restoration resulting in a clean master with original grain that can be used to create DVDs and BluRay discs. That is reference quality. It means that the particular transfer is the reference by which all other prints of that film are judged. There is no such thing as an umbrella reference by which all films ever made can be judged. How could there be? There are too many variables. There are sites like avsforum that ascribe ratings to film releases, based on criteria they've established, but that's subjective.
greenpenguino said:
twister111 said:
Ripplin said:
What?
Tornados twisting into lines. Relishing the delight of colors swirling about. It enters a gaze of slurry. Understated confusion of the entrapped beasts. The entrepot becomes a safe haven from the deluded cold. Embrace the trail as though it were a bee. Never stray. Become the long flighted admirable couth.
Take my love, take my land, Take me where I cannot stand. I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. Take me out to the black, Tell them I ain't comin' back. Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me. There's no place I can be, Since I've found Serenity. And you can't take the sky from me.
Two by two
Hands of blue
If I had a time machine, I'd go back and stop myself from ever using that damned infernal time machine.
Of course they would. they would make gadrillion dollars in money.
xhonzi said:
I just don't know of any Criterion DVDs that are 'reference' quality when it comes to A/V.
I have their entire Akira Kurosawa collection (almost 20 discs), as well as several of their Ingmar Bergman releases, and they are reference quality. Criterion is the industry leader in reference-quality when it comes to old films.
xhonzi said:
Criterion in these cases should be championed for doing "the best that can be done" but it would be a mistake to compare it A/V wise to a well done DVD of a modern blockbuster.
Who's comparing a 60-year old Kurosawa movie to Transformers? No one. Criterion is championed as the best restoration house in the business. They track down original prints and negatives, meticulously restore them, and release them in high bitrate with incredible special features including custom commentaries from the best film experts in the business. Criterion should be championed for all that. No offense, but if you're basing your opinion on their Gilliam and Anderson discs, you really don't know Criterion.
Get Seven Samurai on BluRay and then we'll talk. ;)
RedFive said:
No! What's "AKing"?
According to dark_jedi, "ass-kissing".
Davnes007 said:
Is anyone boycotting this release?.....
Good question. If they are, they're not being very vocal about it.
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skyjedi2005 said:
I think it goes without saying i am strongly boycotting this release.
But by all means, please say it four or five more times.
We should start a gripe group.
adywan said:
Main box cover artwork. (Click for larger image)
Not very impressed by this cover at all. It looks like a kid sketched it with pastels for a class project
I really don't understand how this image was chosen as the cover art for the boxset. Pretty much everything bad about it has been nitpicked already, specifically that the entire saga has been boiled down to a little kid where he shouldn't be. Luke Skywalker is practically absent from the entire packaging. All part of the revisionist "it's Anakin's story" nonsense.
But actually, my biggest grip is that the binary suns are one of the most iconic visual images associated with Tatooine, and they couldn't even get that right.
RedFive said:
asterisk8 said:
That was fucking awesome.
Anguish!
BSG... how I miss you...
I watched Crossroads Pt 2 earlier today. The last 15 minutes still give me goosebumps.
Last tv show seen: Community. Quickly becoming one of my favorite sitcoms of all time.
FunkyDays said:
asterisk8, did you have anything to do with the Glyn Johns "Get Back" remaster? It's very well done, I never play the Vigotone version anymore!
Nope, that was all RMW. He's a professional audio engineer, really knows his stuff.
FunkyDays said:
Hi RedFive! When you say you have the 'complete discography' does that include the 'mono' albums? If not, I would absolutely recommend the mono "pepper' and "white album". I would also recommend "The John Barrett tapes" as 'core', and I know you said you don't want anything 'repetitive' but "It's not too bad" is one of my all time favorites (it's pretty much the complete evolution of Strawberry Fields Forever from the Santa Isabel demos, to home demos to multiple takes at Abbey Road. It's arguably the most enlightening Beatles disc I have ever heard)
Great recommendations, but I would say you're better off collecting the new "Studio Sessions: Back To Basics" set: double-discs for each official UK album that collect all studio outtakes and alternate mixes, restored in a similar manner to this set. The Barrett tapes are hit-or-miss for quality depending on which boot label you go with, and It's Not Too Bad lacks phase and pitch correction, both which greatly improve listenability.
I'm so glad to read such a response, RedFive. It means a lot after what was easily more than 150 combined hours between the two of us of auditioning and comparing sources, planning the set's structure, reading and researching dates, locations, lineages, restoring the tracks, and then designing the artwork. We started Caught On Tape back in July 2010, so it's incredibly gratifying to see it taking its first steps into the world. This is my first fan project, so I'm new to this feeling. :-)
There are several "core" Beatles bootlegs a collector should have. My all-time favorite and most-listened-to is the near-complete collection of BBC performances currently circulating in a great set called "Unsurpassed Broadcasts". The Beatles performed live on the BBC 52 times between 1962 and 1965. At 11 discs, Unsurpassed Broadcasts offers all but a few of those performances in full. They are so much fun to listen to, great performances, a lot of cover songs they never released on an album, and in between a wealth of funny and fascinating interviews and comedy bits with The Beatles. Listening to them is like time traveling (if you time travel just to listen to the radio, that is!). For anyone who doubts that The Beatles could play live, they need look no further than their BBC performances. Most of the officially released tracks on Live at the BBC actually come from the same bootleg sources, but EMI used noise reduction, EQ, and hard limiting to make them sound "better" and ended up ruining them. Almost every track they used sounds better on Unsurpassed Broadcasts.
I also highly, highly recommend Release From Limitation, on the same label this set is on, Remasters Workshop. Once The Beatles had returned from their trip to visit the Maharishi in India, the got together and recorded demos of the many songs they'd written in Rishikesh. These demos are essentially the entire White Album, plus or minus a few tracks, and have become known among collectors as the "Esher" demos (many were recorded at Harrison's home in Esher). They would've been the fifth disc of this set, but RMW had issued Release From Limitation just a month before I came to him with the idea for this set. So consider that a supplement, or companion disc. I might eventually do some art for it for those that want to merge it with Caught On Tape.
Start with those, because they are the most listenable and most universally-beloved by Beatles fans. They make a good starting place in conjunction with Caught On Tape!
You're most welcome!
Thick-sliced honey ham and gruyere cheese on a toasted english muffin, with fries and a ginger ale.
THE BEATLES
Caught On Tape! #1 (1963–1964)
c. May 1963
[?]
01. Bad To Me [1:25]
c. July 1963
The McCartney House
02. Tammy/Over the Rainbow (radio sing-along) [2:03]
03. guitar instrumental #1 [0:34]
04. guitar instrumental #2 [2:32]
05. Michelle [1:01]
06. guitar instrumental #3 [0:13]
07. guitar instrumental #4 [1:21]
08. guitar instrumental #5 [1:08]
09. Three Coins In The Fountain [1:39]
10. Rockin’ And Rollin' (backing track) [0:59]
11. Rockin' And Rollin' (guitar overdub fragment) [0:14]
12. Rockin' And Rollin' (false starts) [0:23]
13. Rockin' And Rollin' (trumpet overdub) [1:25]
14. Rockin' And Rollin' (vocal overdub) [1:16]
22–27 July 1963
Royal Pier Hotel
15. reading 1 Kings 17–18 (w/Gerry Marsden) [7:22]
16. singing Psalms 23–24 (w/Gerry Marsden) [2:29]
17. asking directions (w/Gerry Marsden) [8:33]
30 July 1963
EMI Studio 2
18. piano-drum instrumental [1:39]
19–24 August 1963
Palace Court Hotel
19. Don't Bother Me/guitar instrumental [5:54]
c. July–October 1963
London [?]
20. I'm In Love [1:35]
1–14 January 1964
Flat 3, 13 Emperor’s Gate, London [?]
21. If I Fell (take 1) [0:15]
22. If I Fell (take 2) [2:30]
23. If I Fell (take 3) [0:28]
24. If I Fell (take 4) [0:38]
25. If I Fell (take 5) [0:15]
18 January–4 February 1964
Hotel George V
26. One And One Is Two [1:52]
21 February 1964
Deauville Hotel, Miami Beach
27. Talking Guitar Blues [3:31]
23 June 1964
Hotel St. George, Wellington
28. Gavotte en Rondeau/Bourrée in E minor [0:30]
