althor1138

poita said:

What software and OS are you using to capture with the PCIe 750?

I am using Win7x64 and 32bit Virtudaldub to capture.

So what was the verdict on the pluge test?  Has anybody checked it out yet? It would be interesting if somebody would post the same test with another card just to see a real world comparison.

BTW, I'm planning on putting all of the raw files to my captures up on the newsgroup so that everybody will have access to them.

I've updated post #2 to include a link to the lossless file of the pluge test. To my eyes it looks identical to the x264 version.

I've updated post #2 with the "pluge pulse" test.  I don't know what I should be looking for exactly but it seems like the box on the left does flicker a bit so is it totally failing or is it just moderately bad at this test?

AntcuFaalb said:

althor1138: I PM'd you the link to the DVE Pluge Pattern.

Thanks!

I got it now.  I've got some things to do today so either tonight or tomorrow I'll post the results.  Do you have any more test patterns?  I'll take everything you've got if you don't mind. Maybe I should just look online for it.

It is the early pressing that is missing a few seconds of esb where leia is welding on the falcon.

Sure. Send it on over.  I'm in the middle of recapturing the SE and DC because I accidentally captured it in yv12 the first time :(.  Seriously, that's like 12+ hours of my life gone down the drain lol.  Anyway, I'll try to get it to you tonight between discs though.

Good enough?

If there is I don't think it's much.

Ok I put up the scene of the stormtroopers and leia. I put the link in my first post to ease finding it in the future.

AntcuFaalb said:

Can you post a short clip of a fast moving scene with some sharp scene-changes from one of your captures as well?

I'm interested to see if the Diamond Theater750HD exhibits any "checkerboarding" like my Panasonic DMR-ES10 does.

Actually, can you just post the last frame before a sharp scene-change and the first 1-3 frames after?

Thanks!

I'm sure you've got a scene or two in mind from Star wars you could use as a reference.  If you just tell me which one I can try to put it up on Sendspace.

It is done.  Just click the original link and it will now direct you to sendspace instead of YT.

Here is a clip of my Diamond Theater750HD PCI-E card. This is the composite output from my pioneer dv-360 to the Theater750HD.

Here is the “Pluge Pulse” test with a comparison of the digital file on the right.  I’m not sure what to be looking for here but it seems that the black box on the right with the different shades inside of it shouldn’t be flickering but it does a little bit. I’m sure you guys know more about this than me.

Here is the lossless clip of the Pluge test.

Here is the clip of the stormtroopers looking for Leia on the Tantive.  It’s a lossless encode to lagarith and weighs in at 80MB.  This should serve as a good test for the comb filter according to Poita and Antcufaalb.

EDIT:  <span style=“text-decoration: line-through;”>Youtube compression kinda yucks it up but I’ll leave it there for anyone who wants to check it out.  The screenshot looks about like the capture though. </span>

I uploaded it to sendspace instead.

I think I'm aware of the disadvantages of capturing in RGB colorspace(rounding errors, bigger filesize) but are there any advantages over capturing in yuy2 colorspace? 

If you open the MKV in VLC and pause it then press the forward chapter button it will take you to the first frame of side 2 and then side 3 if you press it again.

EDIT:  seems like side 2 chapter begins 1 frame too early.  It is pretty easy to tell though because the next frame is the next scene and that is the frame that starts side 2 on the laserdisc.

I'm almost certain that the HF9G has a nearly pure composite output.  I mean that there is probably a digital conversion in the TBC but that it doesn't pass through the comb filter and get recombined on the way out.  This coupled with the capture card are the reason I think it gets such a clean picture.

I encoded this with a setting of crf=16 and according to some this is more than enough to capture all of the detail.  It is compressed but I think it's at a quality equal to or better than an 8gb DL DVD would be.

EDIT:

Jetrell Fo said:

I figured with the smaller size of the .mkv that maybe it was compressed to make it an easier upload, that's all.

I certainly won't bite the hand that feeds, ya know.

It's no problem and if somebody tells me that it is a bad idea to make a dvd from an x264 file then I'll maybe reconsider doing a DL but my idea is that if the MKV is of high quality then everybody should be able to put this into whatever format they want without much loss even if there has to be a re-encode such as putting it on DVD.

Jetrell Fo said:

Any chance you did a dual layered version?  That would be nice.

Cheers again, it looks nice.

Well this is an MKV so it's not even really a single layer :). I have no plans really of doing any dvd releases though. I believe the quality of this encode should allow for a very nice dual layer if someone were to choose that route, however, I'm no expert as evidenced in my multiple ridiculous postings in other threads lol.

Too bad side 1 is so noisy on my capture.  I can see there are some blown-out whites in starkiller but it seems like a pretty good transfer of this LD.

I've never watched this aside from the opening night in '99. This LD seems to be what I remember from the theater and I've heard it mentioned in multiple places that the LD version is the theatrical version so I've stated this in the first post.  If it's incorrect somebody should let me know :).

Darth Mallwalker said:

 

Fixed the following GOUT frames:
15592 - was combed, see Post_98 above
30739 - was nnedi()ed, but two fields are present
30745 - was missing, but it's nnedi()able

Please check this field:
side1raw.separatefields().trim(82191,-1)
Does it contain Han or blackness?

If Han, then add this line:
s1p33=side1raw.separatefields.trim(82191,-1).nnedi2(dh=true).assumefps("ntsc_film")
to restore GOUT 32186


Moving on to side2, please check the following fields:
side2raw.separatefields().trim(804,-1)
side2raw.separatefields().trim(102203,-1)
Do they contain picture or blackness?

 

Thanks for this.  I've checked the Han or black frame and it contained Han. ESB was very easy to IVTC compared to SW but I can see it needs some fine grooming as well.  What a total mess this set is.

I used several successive calls to generalconvolution to create an edge mask on the right side of bright areas next to dark areas and then shifted the mask over to match the right-edge halo of my laserdisc player.  Then I used overlay with the mask and mode="multiply" to get rid of the halo. This isn't on every disc though so I guess it's combination of the laserdisc and the player which creates this sometimes.  On ESB and TPM it's not very prominent like on SW for example.

source=avisource()

conv1=conv.converttorgb32().GeneralConvolution(0, "
   1  0 -1
   2  0 -2
   1  0 -1 ", 8)

conv2=conv1.GeneralConvolution(0, "
  0 0 0 0 0
  0 0 0 0 0
  1 0 0 0 0
  0 0 0 0 0
  0 0 0 0 0 ")

conv3=conv2.GeneralConvolution(0, "
  0 0 0 0 0
  0 0 0 0 0
  0 1 0 0 0
  0 0 0 0 0
  0 0 0 0 0 ")

overlaymask=overlay(source,conv3,mode="multiply",mask=conv3.converttorgb32().mask(conv3.converttorgb32()))

return(overlaymask)

It alternates between the raw capture and the settings I planned on using.  You should probably not watch this temporally but step through it.  I just wanted to see what people thought of the settings.  I haven't done the 720 yet.  I think in a couple days I'm going to go through and double check everything that has been pointed out as wrong and fix it.  Then I'll encode the raw 480p and then I'll add the tweaks and upsize to 720p.

Many thanks for doing this timdiggerm.  I'm not much of a presentation guy unfortunately so this will definitely help people see what the capture looks like!

This is a capture of The Phantom Menace Japanese Laserdisc.  It is the theatrical version and contains Japanese subtitles below the picture.  I have encoded this to an MKV file container. There is a 2 channel stereo track(PCM) as well as a 5.1 surround track(AC3). The chapter breaks represent the laserdisc sides. The video track(x264) has been restored to a progressive framerate. There have been no other adjustments or tweaks.
 

This was captured using a CLD-HF9G laserdisc player and a Diamond Theater750HD PCI-E capture card.

It is now available in the usual place.
 

CREDITS:

Audio-- schorman13 (taken from star wars laserdisc audio archive)