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#1077812
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Yotsuya's Saga Preservation and Restoration
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Last year, I’ve created a group of 5.1 DTS audio files containing the 1997 Cinema DTS theatrical sound mix of the Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition that are edited to play in sync with this forum’s released GOUT versions (Harmy’s editions). All you would have to do is mux these audio files to the MKV videos. They are all available on the ‘spleen.

The material that I used came from the group of 5.1 DTS audio files (also available on the ‘spleen) that was prepared by our member, CapableMetal. CapableMetal extracted the PCM mono wave files from the CinemaDTS CD-ROMs and sync’d them to TB broadcasts of the Special Edition trilogy. I took CapableMetal’s sync’d DTS audio files and spliced them with the 5.1 DTS audio files of hairy_hen reconstruction of his 6-track, 70mm sound mixes for the GOUT versions to fill-in portions of the GOUT footage where the special edition audio would be inappropriate.

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#1077614
Topic
Yotsuya's Saga Preservation and Restoration
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There were some attempts:

  1. Our member, nightstalkerpoet, uploaded on the 'spleen a DTS file of the Cinema DTS '97 theatrical sound mix of ANH sync’d to the Blu Ray. But, at this time, there are no seeders.

  2. There was this STAR WARS (AHN)- RESPECIALIZED EDITION '97 which is a presentation of ANH: Special Edition '97 that features, among the audio options, the 1997 theatrical sound mix from the CinemaDTS CD-ROMs

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#1075687
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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alexp120 said:
If you look at williarob’s “Restoring Color to Red Faded Film” video

http://thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2016/09/12/Restoring-Color-to-a-Faded-Eastman-Print-of-Star-Wars

…beginning at the 15:47 mark, he explains how you can build a model containing a wide variety of colors. You are grabbing sample frames of the shot that you are working on from both the reference video and the test video, and creating LUT’s of all the colors in that shot.

I noticed that the number of sample frames of the shot from both the reference video and the test video is 16. Why 16?

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#1073965
Topic
Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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lansing said:

DrDre said:

lansing said:

DrDre said:

lansing said:

DrDre said:

It’s generally much faster to export a LUT for use in Davinci Resolve or Adobe After Effects, than to do it frame by frame in the tool. Shot-by-shot correction still takes a lot of time though, as each LUT is good for roughly 100 frames, and there are roughly 2,000 shots in a two hour film.

Thanks, I imported the generated LUT into Premiere and it applied instantly, with the cost of spike in RAM.

I’m testing it out on my dragon ball now, and I have a panning shot where there’re noticeable ringing artifacts along the lines. I have to turn smooth up to 0.9 in order to get it away. Is this normal? Can you take a look? I uploaded the reference and test image.

reference: http://i.imgur.com/id8AiRx.png
test: http://i.imgur.com/I54GI7O.png

Did you make sure the cropping is the same for the test and reference frames? If so, could you also share the raw test frame?

I tested on 3 other scenes, they all work fine even without cropping. I did try cropping this test image to match the reference, but it’s still the same problem with the white ringing between the character and the sky. I also tried sampling from the last frame of this same scene and it works fine again without the need to pump up the smoothing parameter.

reference: http://i.imgur.com/YOCkH0E.png
test: http://i.imgur.com/sRUrxNw.png

The fact that it works without cropping is fortunate, but the method is not developed specifically assuming the image content is exactly the same, except for the colors. It may work fine for some frames, but give artifacts for others.

The reason you get ringing is, because the ringing is already present in the test frame, a side effect of DNR:

The ringing has rougly the same color as the clouds next to it, both being light blue.

The clouds in the reference image are more white, than in the test frame, while the sky is a darker blue:

By color matching the color of the clouds, you automatically also give the ringing rougly the same color as the clouds, causing them to be more apparent against the darker blue background. Sadly there’s very little that can be done about this.

By increasing the smoothing parameter, you reduce the color gradients, as the algorithm tries to keep the gradients as close to the original gradients as possible, while also trying to find the best color match. This may reduce the ringing somewhat, but will generally also result in a poorer color match.

Thanks for the explanation, so I think the best approach for this is to find a frame in the scene that has the least amount of ringing + covers a wide variety of colors, build a matching model out of it and apply it to the entire scene and hope for the best.

If you look at williarob’s “Restoring Color to Red Faded Film” video

http://thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2016/09/12/Restoring-Color-to-a-Faded-Eastman-Print-of-Star-Wars

…beginning at the 15:47 mark, he explains how you can do just that–build a model containing a wide variety of colors. You are grabbing sample frames of the shot that you are working on from both the reference video and the test video, and creating LUT’s of all the colors in that shot.

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#1067313
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Titanic UK HDTV broadcast (pre 2012 changes)
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RU.08 said:

There’s a print for sale on 35mmforum if you guys are interested.

RU.08 said:

$650 + postage (in the US). Good overall condition. It’s over 3 hours though, so even the most affordable scanning options would still cost about $1K.

That print was finally sold…at $600 + postage.

I hope that the person that bought it is one of us.

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#1066274
Topic
ADR Syncing
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In that case, one suggestion would be to fix the audio to fit the length of your final rendered video. But, there is a way you can do that without any trimming. You just have to adjust the duration of the audio to fit your finished video.

A free software download, like eac3to, can do that for you. Use it to demux the audio from the video, giving a .WAV file. Then, just adjust the duration–making it slow or fast.

Finally, mux your adjusted audio to your finished video. Check the beginning of the video and check the end of your video. If both ends are in sync, you’re done. If not, go back to eac3to again and adjust the audio to another duration time. You may have to play with the duration to get the right fit.

I, personally, have not used it, but other members here have.

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#1066239
Topic
ADR Syncing
Time

I was hoping someone with experience in Premiere Pro would respond to your query by now, as I am not familiar with that software. However, with some sync’ing projects that I’ve done, I’ll attempt to answer.

From my reading, both the video and audio are from one source, the .VOB files, right? If that is the case: from your description of your sync’ing issue, when you imported the .VOB files to Premiere Pro, the frame rate of the video—the amount of frames displayed per second (fps)—may have changed, but the audio that was sync’d to the .VOB files remained the same. You may have to convert your restored video back to the fps it was in the .VOB files so that your finished video can be sync’d to the original audio.

So, first, compare the fps of the .VOB files, your imported video, and/or your finished video and see if there is a difference.

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#1062352
Topic
Star Wars Film Concert Series
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Experience these films as never before at the world’s first-ever live performance of Star Wars – Film Concert Series! Don’t miss your chance to see these epic films on screen with the unparalleled New York Philharmonic performing the iconic music of John Williams. Tickets are available only via presale to New York Philharmonic 2017–18 subscribers and current members at the Patron level and above; any remaining tickets will go on sale to the general public on May 4.

https://nyphil.org/concerts-tickets/explore/1718/star-wars

15 SEPTEMBER, 2017 FRIDAY 8:00 PM - Star Wars: A New Hope – In Concert
16 SEPTEMBER, 2017 SATURDAY 8:00 PM - Star Wars: A New Hope – In Concert

26 SEPTEMBER, 2017 TUESDAY 7:30 PM - Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back – In Concert
27 SEPTEMBER, 2017 WEDNESDAY 7:30 PM - Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back – In Concert
28 SEPTEMBER, 2017 THURSDAY 7:30 PM - Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back – In Concert

4 OCTOBER, 2017 WEDNESDAY 7:30 PM - Star Wars: Return of the Jedi – In Concert
5 OCTOBER, 2017 THURSDAY 7:30 PM - Star Wars: Return of the Jedi – In Concert
6 OCTOBER, 2017 FRIDAY 8:00 PM - Star Wars: The Force Awakens – In Concert
7 OCTOBER, 2017 SATURDAY 8:00 PM - Star Wars: The Force Awakens – In Concert

Venue: David Geffen Hall (formerly known as: Avery Fisher Hall), New York City, NY

Anyone considering attending the event and doing an audio capture of this performance, so that it can be sync’d to the commercial Blu Ray?

As for listening to this audio with the GOUT: I suppose someone with exceptional audio-editing skills can make this happened, also. Even if sound-effects from the 2004 edition would appear out-of-place in the GOUT cut, it’s all about the performance of the music and sounds of the crowd.

EDIT 12/04/2017:
One of our members, bilditup1, made a capture of the ANH and ESB performances. Here are his notes from this thread.

bilditup1 said:

Hey all,

As you guys probably know, this past month, Star Wars, ESB, ROTJ, and TFA were screened with a live performance of John Williams’ scores by the New York Philharmonic at David Geffen Hall, under composer/conductor David Newman. I was fortunate enough to attend Star Wars and ESB and make crude recordings of both with RecForge II on my phone. Unfortunately I didn’t plan any of this out, or I would have tried to smuggle in at least my Tascam recorder, or at least have the presence of mind to change my usual recording settings either time (so we’re limited to a mono, 16-bit/44.1kHz PCM recording, which for Star Wars especially is pretty hot since I forgot to take levels). I was also sitting all the way in the back (last row of Third Tier) for Star Wars, and almost all the way (middle of Second Tier) for Empire, so it probably isn’t ideal acoustically. Still, IMHO, they are very listenable as is, warts and all.

Some thoughts:
Newman was obviously limited by the fact that he had to keep the score in sync to the films but did nonetheless get to play with tempo, dynamics, and instrumentation a bit. When the score as heard in the film differed from that on the released OSTs, he always chose the film version of the orchestration (though that probably also differs a bit from the final film cut). The roughness of ESB overall is a testament to how much that film must have changed after having been scored, and the utter freaking jarring obnoxiousness of the 2011 additions (particularly in ESB) were only accentuated by the orchestra’s presence. Star Wars sounded a lot more complete and coherent, even with the digressions introduced around Mos Eisley. (Speaking of - Fiery Figrin Da’an and his Modal Nodes were not represented by the NYPhil, in case anyone was ondering.)
Nonetheless it was a pretty wild experience both times (esp ESB, which was on my birthday) and I wish I could have attended ROTJ and TFA as well. One thing I didn’t anticipate - probably because this was the first time I’ve seen either Star Wars or ESB in theaters - for example, was that er, this is a screening of Star Wars in a very large public space in a very large city, so most of the attendees, while obviously John Williams fans, were uh also very much Star Wars fans first - the 501st were out in force, there were a few cosplayers in the crowd, etc. Thus this wasn’t exactly a stuffy performance where you’d be liable to get shushed - which while better from a perspective of getting a definitive recording of Newman’s version, or ya know, for just hearing everything, also makes for a pretty engaging experience of its own. So while I was pretty annoyed at first, especially at some of the kids (they were eventually brought in line, lolz), eventually I embraced it (though I generally did not react with them, and good for that eh): jokes that I thought were banal or dumb or gah-it-was-cool-a-thousand-watches-ago-but-definitely-not-anymore came right back to life. Sometimes the cheers were for the characters, sometimes for the music, and sometimes both. All in all, pretty amazing.

Anyway, I don’t really have audio editing chops beyond doing simple cuts and amplifies in Audacity. No Izotope, Audition, etc. So initially I was just going to try to cut these up into something approximating e.g. ABC’s IAE V2 (organized by cue) and see what I can do with this crude thing, make it a learning experience etc. But I was hunting through the spleen recently and it looks like someone, after all these years, finally took the time to sync Scofield (hurray!) as well a hitherto unknown recording of ESB on opening night, so I thought there might be some interest in trying to sync this, warts and all, even just to the 2011 BDs. I’d love to say that I’d make the time to do that myself but any kind of sync nonsense drives me insane/strikes ph34r into my heart. Plus, there were intermissions both time, with some repetition of the last cue before intermission at the start of the second half of Star Wars, and a cut-down concert-suite rendition of the Imperial March at the start of the second half of Empire &c. So, as a practical matter, unless some of the older hands here talk me into it, I’m probably not going to take the time to attempt this. But I bet one of you fine people would like to, or at least have advice. Please chime in below! Let’s make this happen!

Upd01
So natch I didn’t search the forums first or I would have found that indeed there was already a thread on this and that DFNYC attended all four screenings and made a presumably much much recording. It looks like we definitely attended different screenings for Star Wars, may have attended different screenings for ESB.
In any case, alexp120 and I are officially in business. Watch this space…

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#1061487
Topic
Titanic UK HDTV broadcast (pre 2012 changes)
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JayArgonaut said:

The broadcast is to my surprise, uncensored with the expletives “bastards” and “horse shit” included but the first couple of minutes are missing because C4 began the broadcast earlier than billed (and even earlier than my PVR’s “padding” compensation feature). If I’d realised in time, I would’ve grabbed the time shifted +1 broadcast an hour later.

The portions that were not recorded: Would the shot in the beginning of the film where Bodine says, “You’re so full of shit, boss” be among them? That is the first expletive in the movie at 3 minutes and 19 seconds into it.

Perhaps we take the beginning parts of captures from the previous broadcasts–censored or otherwise–and edit them to your current capture.

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#1060661
Topic
Titanic UK HDTV broadcast (pre 2012 changes)
Time

This community already has a print, courtesy of Poita (see Sept.16th post).

Also, poita says this (Sept 17th post)

poita said:

I currently have no resources or storage available for scanning it, but the print is here and looks good.

Finally, poita says this: (Sept 18th post)

poita said:

The runtime is 195 minutes, that is ten reels of 35mm, it is a beast. If you want to pony up the $700 in return freight, plus funds for the HDDs and scanning, then sure thing ;^) I’d be more than happy to send it to along to them 😃

In all seriousness I don’t currently have the 30TB storage to scan it here, and my scanner needs a new driver board, so it will be on the shelf anyway till that is replaced.
If the opportunity comes up to get it scanned, I will certainly get it done, at the moment it is going to sit in the archive for a while.

So, from my reading of this last post, what is involved is the cost of freight, scanning, and HDDs.

If anyone can make this happened, I’ll be the first to do a monetary donation to the project…well, maybe not the first, but I’ll donate 😃

Good luck.

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#1059584
Topic
Titanic UK HDTV broadcast (pre 2012 changes)
Time

Thaddäus Tentakel said:

The UK-broadcasts on 4 I’ve seen showed much more of that violence but in return such things as Fred Fleet screaming “Basterds!” into the phone are missing there.

It goes without saying that if a capture of the pre-2012 version is made where the violence is retained, but the dialogue is censored, there is no need to discard it. The audio from the DVD/BluRay can be used to replace it.

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#1058258
Topic
Titanic UK HDTV broadcast (pre 2012 changes)
Time

Just wondering if there is still interest in restoring this pre-2012 cut of the film.

To: JayArgonaut

JayArgonaut said:

I contacted C4 to ask if there’s any possibility they’ll show it again in the near future, uncut and received the following response…

“Unfortunately there are no current plans to repeat this programme, however, I will pass on your interest for this film to be repeated post watershed to those responsible for our programming”

Let’s see what happens. 😃

Perhaps you can contact Channel 4 again to inquire about another broadcast of this film, as this year is the film’s 20th Anniversary.

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#1052943
Topic
Amadeus - Theatrical Cut Restoration 1080p (V2)
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alexp120 said:

If you look at the Nov. 5th post of this thread…

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Amadeus-Theatrical-Cut-Restoration-1080p-V2/id/16803/page/15

zxthehedgehog said:
…If anyone else wants it, just send me a PM instead of using this thread.

So, try PM’ing that member.

Also, from this very page…

zxthehedgehog said:
You may not be able to get in touch with jimbotron235, but Handman, myself, and a few others still send out PMs for it.

So, give Handman or zxthehedgehog your request via PM, OK 😃

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#1047738
Topic
E.T. 20th Anniversary Edition in HD ?
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Although totally unrelated to this project, I just uploaded on that popular organ of the human body an MKV version of this 2002 cut that is made from the following elements:

  • A 720p capture of the film from HDNET.
  • All of the audio tracks from the 2002 DVD release that I’ve sync’d to this capture which includes:
    • The 2002 English sound-mix in DTS 5.1 channel sound
    • The 2002 English sound-mix in Dolby Digital 5.1 channel sound
    • The 2002 French sound-mix in Dolby Digital 5.1 channel sound
    • The Live-Performance Audio from the premiere-screening at the Shrine Auditorium featuring John Williams’ Oscar-winning music score being performed live to picture, orchestra conducted by the composer, in Dolby Digital 5.1 channel sound

This capture was made by another member of that said forum and it was previously released in October 2016 in that forum as part of his BD50 ISO file, E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial Archives [BD-50]. Unfortunately, in that ISO, one of the 2 audio streams, the live performance audio, was not sync’d property to this capture. With my own copy of that 2002 DVD, I made a rip of it, took out a few seconds—both at the beginning, just before the studio logo clip appears and at the end, just after the end credits; and muxed both the AC3 and DTS streams from that DVD to the capture. All the streams are properly sync’d to this video. That member gave me his permission to release this capture provided that it be kept in that forum.

Also, this capture has a HDNET MOVIES logo on the bottom right-side of the screen that is displayed for one time at the duration of 11 seconds.

Hopefully, this post will re-ignite this project for a higher-resolution quality of the reconstruction for this version of the film.

If this project does get restarted, please, let me know if I can help with the audio sync’ing/editing.

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#1046870
Topic
The 1997 Star Wars Special Edition Trilogy Preservation Standards Thread [Work In Progress]
Time

There is this reconstruction of the Special Edition for Episode VI: A New Hope called Harmy’s Star Wars Respecialized Edition which uses the theatrical DTS sound mix.
You can find that here
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Respecialized-Edition-97-AVCHD-and-MKV-now-out/id/16682

Also, there are rips of the laserdisc releases for the Star Wars Trilogy Special Edition that you can find here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Special-Edition-Trilogy-Japan-Laserdiscs/id/53489

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#1041781
Topic
team negative1 - star wars 1977 - 35mm theatrical version (release details and updates)
Time

rodofshadows said:

For the love of Star Wars OT, where do I get this? I’m dying here guys…

Well, then stop your dying and start reading those 170 pages.

Or, you can open a Google search engine and type this

site:originaltrilogy.com

make a space, then type…

the name of this thread

make a space and then type…

your question.

There’s bound to be many folks asking this same question. Out of those people, one person gets his question answered.

So, you have a choice:

Be richer with knowledge and do the former option, or have a quick answer and do the latter.

Either way, you’ll win.

Good luck.

Edit:
To the seasoned members here: feel free to use to quote in other FAQ on other threads.

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#1039658
Topic
AC-3 RF to RF Demodulator
Time

A single RCA audio cable, like this…


…plugged from the coaxial output port of the Demodulator to the coaxial input port of your receiver/amplifier will work just as good.

This setup got me through before I upgraded to HDMI ports.

Edit:
If you are connecting to an audio card of your computer, you’ll need an RCA Male to 3.5mm Male Cable, like this…