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#459591
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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kenkraly2007 said:

adywan said:

kenkraly, i feel like i'm getting deja vu when i read your posts. I still can't see how you can try to tell everyone he is not a liar when he himself has lied on many occasions about the OT and this has been PROVED. Why do you seem to continue to look upon this as its just a case of fans angry with him so they are badmouthing him and calling him a liar?

An example:

The pre-SE OT is too expensive to restore so he won't be releasing it as it isn't a viable option- LIES. It was restored for the '97 SE and this was the WHOLE FILM, not just the parts used for the SE. Even if he had cut up the negative to add the SE parts ( which is highly unlikely and if true would only go on to prove that he wants only to destroy the OUT forever)he could just restore the missing sections without problem. This would cost him virtually nothing and it would certainly be a lot less money that the conversions for 3D are going to cost and the profit from Blu-Ray/DVD sales would far outway the restoration costs.

I could go on but three words just come to mind when i try to explain things to you: flogging, dead & horse.

 

Go away and watch all the original Making of's of the Original Trilogy that were done prior to 1990 and look up some old interviews done by GL on the net. You will see that he is now lying about a great many things

You know adywan I sad I like your fan edit and yet you still pick on me? I said yes I like your fan edit. And yes I have those old docs I am 27 years old not 15. GL is not a lair quit saying he is.

What the hell? Where the hell am i picking on you? I have just made a simple reply to things that you have written. Just because you have said you like my fan edit doesn't mean that i should have to agree with everything you say. Unlike yourself, i can think for myself and will form my own opinions from FACTS and not from thin air.   Now i'm convinced that you are George Lucas, or his clone. I'm simply trying to get you to take a look at those documentaries and you will see that many things that GL has said about the original trilogy post 1997 are just plain LIES. He is not the same great film maker that inspired many people to get into the film making industry. He goes before congress to protest AGAINST films being altered and that the originals should be preserved yet does THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE to his own films, which are 3 of the biggest films of all time. So people could say that not only is he a liar but he is a hypocrite.

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#459567
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Star Wars coming to Blu Ray (UPDATE: August 30 2011, No! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!)
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kenkraly, i feel like i'm getting deja vu when i read your posts. I still can't see how you can try to tell everyone he is not a liar when he himself has lied on many occasions about the OT and this has been PROVED. Why do you seem to continue to look upon this as its just a case of fans angry with him so they are badmouthing him and calling him a liar?

An example:

The pre-SE OT is too expensive to restore so he won't be releasing it as it isn't a viable option- LIES. It was restored for the '97 SE and this was the WHOLE FILM, not just the parts used for the SE. Even if he had cut up the negative to add the SE parts ( which is highly unlikely and if true would only go on to prove that he wants only to destroy the OUT forever)he could just restore the missing sections without problem. This would cost him virtually nothing and it would certainly be a lot less money that the conversions for 3D are going to cost and the profit from Blu-Ray/DVD sales would far outway the restoration costs.

I could go on but three words just come to mind when i try to explain things to you: flogging, dead & horse.

 

Go away and watch all the original Making of's of the Original Trilogy that were done prior to 1990 and look up some old interviews done by GL on the net. You will see that he is now lying about a great many things

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#459556
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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doubleofive said:

 

vaderios said:


The "releasing an xvid workprint" idea like ANH:R so others can spot mistakes, seems to be more difficult at the end ;)
Yes, only one version of ESBR please. It's hard enough trying to list the changes between 2004 and Revisited, let alone between different versions of Revisited.

 

Don't worry 005, there will only be 1 version of ESB:R.

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#459416
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The Golden Idol said:

What about this suggestion?

The Golden Idol said:

Ady, I have one more suggestion regarding Yoda in the clip. Right after Luke is unable to raise the X-Wing, Yoda sighs and shakes his head. When he shakes his head, his entire upper body shakes along with it, and it looks puppetlike, as if the head isn't articulated separately. Now I don't know how hard it is to do, but would you be able to stabilize Yoda's body while he shakes his head?

I don't have a problem with that either. He's really old and its not so far fetched that he hasn't got as supple neck movements as someone younger. Just try shaking your head but not moving your neck as much as you normally would and just watch your shoulders and upper body move.

gurgle1624 said:

  What concerns me more than the body movement with Yoda, which I noticed but didnt really care about, is the scaling of the floating X-Wing as it advances towards Luke. It just seems that the scaling is off.

Yeh, there's something about that shot that always made the X-wing look too small. The scaling is probably correct it's just that it doesn't look quite right due to the compositing. I might tweak this a bit to give the impression that it looks the right scale.

ImperialFighter said:

Can you also confirm if it's going to be possible to match the actual shape of the miniature's inset window with the angles seen on the full-scale one, or not? 

No, i'm not going to change anything there

Jaitea said:

Ady, here's a R2-D2 sound generator should you need to create any new pieces

http://www.r2d2translator.com/

J

Thanks for the link but it doesn't really work very well and couldn't be used for an edit

euroherbal said:

Speaking of generators... Any news about the Hoth shield generator? Is it going to be shot as a model or a CGI?

No, it's still going to be a model.

Lord Grievous said:

Ady, is this flipped/expanded shot still in:

yes

The Golden Idol said:

MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE! :D

 

I've two questions:

As seen in my picture below, Yoda has three ridges of skin on his eyelids. However, in one of the newly added blinks, he has four. The blink should look more like Yoda's closed eyes that are in the end of the scene, with the three ridges more stretched out, because in the newly added blink, the fourth ridge suddenly appears from out of nowhere (this is visible in motion). The first added blink, when Yoda says "No! No different, only different in your mind!" is perfect, because the eyelids actually stretch over his eyes, but this one looks a bit odd when you look at it closely. Can you fix this, Ady?

 

Also, Ady, I don't remember this being mentioned, but are you planning to change the red coloring of the bacta tank in the shot where it's visible behind C-3PO? It was clear when Luke was swimming in it...

well you must have been watching it frame by frame to spot that one. It isn't visible when watched at full speed because the blink it too quick. I've fixed it anyway

And the bacta tank is red when luke is in it too. It's just that the bright light used to illuminate it drowned out the red lighting of the tank. It's even more impossible to see that it was lit red thanks to the crappy colouring of the 2004 set. I think it works perfectly well the way it is now.

rpvee said:

lol, not sure if this has been mentioned, but I'm listening to the center audio channel of ESB (Adywan's Theatrical Reconstruction, though this is probably the case in all versions)... I'm listening to Vader's speech to Luke just after the reveal, and you can actually hear Jones taking in breaths before the lines.  Obviously, since it's Vader talking this shouldn't be heard.

Is it gonna be fixed at all?,

You can hear this throughout the saga so i'm not going to be changing anything.

Bingowings said:

It might be possible to build a small model of the section of the interior of the medical frigate seen from those angles (enough to get the lighting and a bit of the floor right) and drop it into the shots where the lights are out.

filming a model to replace the inside and then match the camera movements would be impossible. I'll have to find a different way to fix this.

Monroville said:

will the frigate engines be changed to have a similar blue glow per the transport and Star Destroyers (or an orange one, or even a more pure white)?  As it is, the engine glow is pretty pekid.

May want to also check ship hull colors to make sure they retain consistent coloring (as the prior pre-mod shot frigate hull is brown-grey).

The engines will be getting a tweak, but they will remain yellow as they were originally in 1980

The colouring problem was only introduced in 2004. This was fixed during the colour correction process and can be seen in the ESB AVCHD although reintroducting the subtle brown highlights became impossible without rotoscoping every single highlight

savmagoett said:

Ady, I don't know if I mentioned it, but I actually have an inside/outside analysis of the medical frigate ongoing, with blueprint of the inside set as well as the frigate model, that should be very helpful to figuring out what should be done with these shots. I've been too busy with other things lately, but I'll try to finish it and post it soon if I can…

That could be very handy to reconstruct the interior to fix the blank window shot. thanks

 

 

 

 

 

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#459177
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Star Wars: Classic Edition 2.0 NEW from Ocpmovie (Released)
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swifte said:

Sorry to resurrect, isn't it folly just to ban someone for attempted profiteering despite the fact he was actually doing a good job?

Can anyone pm me his e-mail? Anyone got a copy of the OCP work? Is it any good? Thanks

It doesn't matter if he was doing a good job or not. He is not only selling his own work but the work other people here have done. Not only is it highly illegal but its a real scumbag thing to do. And he is still doing it. Hopefully no one will PM you any details about this scumbag

To be honest his work isn't that good anyway. The colouring hasn't been changed and you switch from the 2004 DVD colouring to the original colouring of the bonus disc. Plus sections where he has used parts of the original over the DVD version stick out like a sore thumb. There are better preservations of the OT out there. Dark_Jedi's GOUT v3 is almost finished and these will give you a better version of the unaltered trilogy than OCP's.

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#458299
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Here is my reason for hating the prequels. some have said i hate for no reason here is why I hate it
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Exactly, haljordan28. I was banned over there just because i defended someone who didn't like my edit and i criticised GL. They actually denied that i was banned but i couldn't log in anymore and i received an email from the admins stating that i was banned, and i still have it.

Kenkraly will find that site his heaven because most will agree with everything he says and that is what he wants. Me, i prefer to be at a site that you can argue about different aspects and points of view about Star Wars without being censored or banned for daring to disagree with what GL has done to the franchise.

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#458291
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Here is my reason for hating the prequels. some have said i hate for no reason here is why I hate it
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kenkraly2007 said:

I am finished with you guys thanks for nothing all you guys care about is making fun of me good riddance. At least theforce.net and other fourms I go to don't make fun of me like you guy do. this peition has'nt work and will never will it's a dead issue that ship has saled.

You only bring it upon yourself. You repeat the same old thing a million times so it will be great to actually be able to read these threads without getting the feeling of deja vu

 

You only bring it upon yourself. You repeat the same old thing a million times so it will be great to actually be able to read these threads without getting the feeling of deja vu

 

well you'll fit in very well with most of the single minded George Lucas kiss ass people over there. Many of them just don't care what he has done to the saga and that he is oppressing the OUT. Here, we are more free thinking and members can both criticise and praise Lucas.

Goodbye and good riddance

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#458280
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Here is my reason for hating the prequels. some have said i hate for no reason here is why I hate it
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kenkraly2007 said:

What I can't understand is why all the Lucas bashing? I mean come on he created star wars for goodness sake and people left and right think he is a lair or think he has a ego all directors have egos not just him. He is not in the wrong here but some star wars fans think he is and they have the opinion that the prequels and the special editions of the OT destroyed the series it did'nt. Again it's just my opinion on the matter agree or disagree with me if you want I don't mind.

Well he has been proven to be a liar on numerous occasions. This isn't people bashing Lucas but stating FACTS. Obviously a word that you are unaware of in your fantasy world living in your special bubble. Not all directors have such big egos or are so stubborn about their work. Just look at Ridley Scott for example. His Blu-Ray of Blade Runner is exactly what the OT blu-rays should be. ALL versions of the movie, not just the rubbish revisionist version (unless you live in the UK of course and just got 1 version of the movie on Blu-Ray). The prequels did destroy Star Wars. It became a joke after they were released.

He is in the wrong and there is no denying that, as much as you try. He is hypocritical with what he has done to the OT. Maybe you should do some research before you try telling anyone that criticises him to shut up. Just take his statements before congress in 1988. Read this and then tell me this guy isn't a hypocrite. As much as i respect Lucas for what he has done pre-1997, he really seems to have lost the plot lately

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Save-Star-Wars-Dot-Com/post/458187/#TopicPost458187

kenkraly2007 said:

don't you dare ever post my picture again. How dare you do that that is so mean. 

What is so wrong with that? You posted the pic of yourself on the internet to begin with. If you don't want people to know what you look like then maybe you should not post pictures of yourself.

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#458181
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Info &amp; Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist
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Bingowings said:

The snow is back to natural white, any blue you see is natural icy blue.

Not for the evening scenes it isn't. The colouring that was on the AVCHD & 1980 reconstruction isn't the same as it will be in ESB:R, but it won't be the blanket cyan mess that is the 2004 DVD. And the clip on Youtube bleached out most of the blue in the clip i posted. Only the facebook version kept the true colour

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#458174
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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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haraldo23 said:

Ripplin said:

^Fixing that is ok, but the one up there isn't? ;) This is about nitpicking, you know... There are things Adywan and others have found that even hardcore nitpickers have missed and yet he's fixing some of them anyway.

Man... just when you thought the ESB was a flawless movie - you find all these goofs and errors. Just imagine how much work is there to be done with ROTJ... not to mention the prequel trilogy! But, OK, that's off-topic. What I wanted to say was - kudos to Adywan for trying to fix all these things. That's some serious patience right there.

Inspiring stuff.

I think that after finishing this edit i should be certified clinically insane ;)

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#458166
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The Golden Idol said:

 Oh wow, now I see it everytime I watch it...

I posted this ages ago now, just after i posted the clip

There's another shot in the clip that is unfinished and that one is when Luke walks away from Yoda. The shot is actually finished but it was accidentally left out from this clip because i had the layer it was on in Vegas disabled when rendering. Not a biggie really but the floor replacement to cover the moving floor isn't complete in the online version.

And i've updated the download link in that post because Hotfile.com deleted the original for some reason.

The Golden Idol said:

 Ady, I respect your decisions but I urge you to reconsider. The X-Wing couldn't have possibly sunk so much in such a short span of time when it was fine just a moment ago - making it start to sink in the first shot would make it more believeable. And about Yoda's eyes, it looks odd to me that Yoda's left eye takes about 2 seconds longer to close than his right eye, why would he close them separately? What's more, he never actually fully closes his left eye, which I believe was a puppeteering mistake. Also, in that same shot, the camera makes a jerky motion after Yoda closes his eyes and before he lowers his head, can this be smoothed out? This happens at 1:56 in the .mkv video.

Sorry, but i really don't see it as a problem so i'm not going to reconsider.The ship could easily have sunk in that amount of time. Showing signs of it sinking that early is unnecessary. In the scene you're supposed to be concentrating on Luke's training and if you showed something happening to the X-wing, then your attention is shifted. And again with Yodas eyes when closing them. Yoda's really old. there are a lot of old people who have one eye that doesn't close as quick as the other, or even close fully. So i don't see this as a problem

The jerky camera movement recently mentions i'm not going to touch. It isn't something as simple as just stabilising the video. Look closely and you can see that Yoda doesn't move, but the background shifts due to the camera. Now if i stabilized the background then suddenly Yoda would move for no reason. I don't see things like this as a problem, so no work to do on that.

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

The shuttle replacement looks great also. Did you use the audio from the original Tie Shuttle or did you use the sound from one of the imperial shuttle's used in Jedi?

The audio is from the GOUT as i use this as a sync basis for the edit. It will be different in the final mix.

The Golden Idol said:

Hey Ady, that was an amazing clip, but I noticed that on the Stardestroyer that releases Needa's shuttle (great work on the new shuttle, by the way!), the two "prongs" - the two curved sticks on the underside of the SD - flicker a bit around the 5:19 mark on the YouTube video.

Also, the Yoda enhancements are absolutely fantastic, but have you ever considered doing some occassional minor movements on Yoda's brow? Maybe a slightly raised or furrowed brow would give him a bit more expression in some quick moments? I think a slightly raised brow would look great for the "That is why you fail" line. Because the mouth movements and blinks are pretty much perfect, but a bit more brow movement would totally sell the lifelike-ness of Yoda.

I don't know what happened to cause the flicker, but it's an easy fix.

I did try adding some tweaks to the rest of his face but it really didn't work too well. It looked a bit fake so i dropped the idea

JediBorota said:

Yesterday was my birthday and that was such a great treat to see that clip, especially since it had Yoda in it.

Happy belated birthday JediBorota

AuggieBenDoggie said:

Ady Just curious, but did you use AE for the creation of that Shuttle insert or did somebody else render that shot with Lightwave or 3DSMax?

I'm pretty sure that the guy who is doing the CG uses 3DSMax

TML said:

As I said before, amazing work ady. I hate to deviate from the recent clip, but I have a quick question about the Battle of Hoth. I remember seeing ady saying something about shooting/adding ground troops to the battle. Does anyone know if he means adding Snowtroopers to the shots or adding more Rebel Soldiers, or both?

No, there will be no added snowtroopers. It's just going to be filming for rebel troops to replace some bad elements and some background characters.

The Golden Idol said:

doubleofive said:

I said this on the FB copy and want to see if I'm just crazy: am I the only person who thinks the X-Wing should be starting to slip into the swamp as R2 to turning to watch it? 1. Why would he turn to look if he didn't suspect something and 2 I think it goes from perfectly still and all the way out of the water to the last part of it sinking rather quickly.

 I completely agree. Ady, what do you think?

Also, in the shot directly following the part where Luke fails to raise the X-Wing, Yoda closes his eyes in disappointment. When he closes his eyes, his right eye closes much quicker than his left. Is this going to be left in, or will you fix that?

I actually prefer not knowing that there is anything wrong with the X-wing until R2 goes nuts and puts Luke off his concentration. R2 could just be sensing something that we are unable to see or hear. And i don't think that Yoda's eye needs fixing

Bingowings said:

I think I've detect the reason behind the perceived 'wink'.

The mkv version of the clip wasn't playing on my laptop version of Vlc (it's an older mac and Vlc is no longer supporting that version of OSx with upgrades) so I had only the Boobtube version to judge it by.

When Yoda screws his face up in disappointment it drew my attention (and presumably the attention of others) to the right side of his face so I only saw the left side of the blink which registered as a wink. It's such a compelling illusion that I can still see it even though I know it's not there (check out the clip on youtube and see if you can confirm this).

I loaded the mkv over onto my big Mac and on a larger monitor it's clearly a blink and not a wink (sorry if this caused any anxiety) but I did see the still very noticeable wire/thread lowering the top rock down during the telekinesis training, which isn't noticeable on the smaller screen (I don't know if you intend to do something about that).

yeh, it's probably down to youtubes bad compression. I missed the wire. Will have to go fix that.

gobalicious said:

Great work.

I can't help but notice Yoda's ears.  They vibrate a lot as he moves his head.  It seems that real cartilage is stiffer than whatever the puppet is made of.  Try flicking your own ears.

Yodas vibrating ears are part of his charm and it also seems to add age to him. This is something i would never think of changing

TheBoost said:

But with Yoda the blinks feel unnessesary. All joking aside, look at any Michael Caine perofrmance. The man never blinks. Neither did Yoda.

A few people have commented on the blinks. The most commented on one was his final blink just before he says "that, is why you fail.." where it's been said that it looks too fake and that Yoda doesn't blink. Well that one right there isn't new. It's original and there in 1980. Others have commented that they are either too slow or too fast. Well it can't be both. It may just be down to the fact that they're new and you're not use to seeing him blink.

Jaitea said:

If you could contact this guy Ady.......the best CG Falcon I've ever seen......you might not need to build that Fine Molds one :]

http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?75906-Star-Wars-The-Millennium-Falcon/page13

J

That's a nice model but there is no way i would use CG when i could use a model. The CG model that is being used for ESB:R is very highly detailed, just like that one and it has great textures.

ImperialFighter said:

But until then, here's a little something that I'd also like to hightlight.  It's just a brief thing, but it's certainly something that always catches my eye now.  It concerns the shots where Han enters the rebel hangar and dismounts -

At the end of the top shot, as shown here, there is a Snowspeeder situated beside the 'ice pillar' behind Han and his Taun-Taun...

...but when we then immediately cut to Han dismounting in close-up, we suddenly see the rear engines of an X-wing appear beside the pillar...

 Is it possible for you to 'erase' the engines in the close-up of Han, so that we'd only see the 'ice pillar' here, so that this isn't such a jarring continuity error any more?

Yes, i will be erasing the engines.

Captain Antilles said:

Hello, all!

Things have been a bit tumultuous around here lately!

I've been stalking these forums for quite some time now and figured I might as well join already. I don't really have anything to say yet, but I figured I'd introduce myself! =)

Welcome to the madhouse Captain Antilles

zombie84 said:

I am sure none of those are vignettes from the lens. It's an intentional lighting and filter effect. It looks great, very atmospheric and painterly. I hope it's not taken away, it would diminish the terrific deliberate composition and lighting of Kersh and Suschitzski's and make everything look boring and flat. It's hard to get vignettes on longer lenses like those anyway, unless they were on a zoom, which they likely weren't, as Kersh shot pretty much all on primes. The "vignetting effect"-look is a deliberate stylization in my opinion, not an error to be erased, it's part of the look of the film.

I won't be eliminating the Vignettes unless it's in a shot that i have to replace most of the elements.

Kenobius Prime said:

Umm, wow.  :(

My only "suggestion" about the scene is that the X-wing still needs to be dripping on it's journey to the shore.  Hopefully that, if it can be done believeably, will help the model and background plate look more like they both exist in the same space.

It's very difficult to add the dripping water without it jumping out as fake. This is something i may well have to leave it the way it is.

Monroville said:


Another note: nothing big again, but either when Luke is trying to lift up the X-wing or any other shot, will there be any implication of the path the X-wing took to crash into the shore?  As it stands, the X-wing would have travelled through some majorly thick trees to crash where it is (which would have killed Luke), short of him crashing straight down in a nose dive.

In this sequence there isn't any angle that you would see it's flightpath through the trees

ImperialFighter, the medical frigate is a bit of a problem. It's going to be very hard to add the interior in the first shot. I haven't given up hope but there aren't any shots of the interior from that angle that i could add the missing elements. The shot that pans across from the falcon you can now see the droids in the window. The outer edges of the window i don't know if you would see it or not from the inside at those angles. I doubt i would be adding anything like that.

Monroville said:

A couple of extra points:
should we be able to see the galaxy/forming star in the first shot with 3P0 (being that you can see it move slowly from the right to the left of the screen in the final shot seen directly above, which would place it's visual origins off to the far right of the screen in Shot #2)?

I have erased the galaxy/forming star from the first 2 shots as there is no way you'd see it that early.

 

 

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STAR WARS: EP V &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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There has been no bashing going on towards him at all. If you think that peoples replies have been "bashing" then this would mean that he has been bashing people too then wouldn't it with some of the things he has said towards people who haven't agreed with him? I'm pretty sure that Angel is big enough to take some criticism or do you think that everyone should be worshipping him?

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Jaitea said:

This is what happens when two very creative people with integrity clash.

I do feel that Vaderios is being spoken to a bit harsh here Adywan, I think these boards would be at a loss without him.

All of his views and suggestions are purely from an artistic stance.

J

I haven't spoeken to him harshly and it certainly wasn't meant to come across that way. And i didn't say anything about him not being or not wanting him on these boards either. I think you have read something into my comments that weren't there

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It's all gone mad in here.:) All this talk of re-framing and zooming shots to make them "more interesting" is madness and plain pointless.

vaderios said:

Make a shot from good to better and from better to best. Eveything nowadays has to prevized before the final product. So they calculate everything to the best possible result rather something simple.

And that's why most modern movies are crap. Just overblown music videos. You say that the OT cinematography is boring and needs to have all these weird re-framings etc to make it more like modern day film making, well no thank you. I find it pretty strange that you want to change all this to make the movies more interesting yet you are a huge Michael Bay fan? This is the guy who uses the same cinematography in EVERY MOVIE HE MAKES. He uses identical slow motion shots, slow pans, zooms etc every god damn movie. This is shit film making at it's finest. yes, some of his films can be entertaining upon first viewing but they are throw away films and i get so bored of using the same filming format over and over again. Give me the old '80's camerawork any day over this modern crap. You over-think something and it can turn into a turd. Sometimes the simplest option is the best.

And this is why i could never work with you on any of my edits and why 99% of your mockups i would never even consider, Vaderios. We have a totally different mind set. I'm also quite surprised at just how defensive you get if someone says they don't like one of your mock-ups.I think it's very disrespectful saying someone else's work is "crap" just because it wasn't done with today's technology. The matte work on the Star wars films was very good . It looked great and very convincing in the cinema first time around. the problem is that some have gotten use to the computer done mattes of today and forget that back then everything had to be painted by hand, with a brush and not on a computer.

AuggieBenDoggie said:

I really hope notoriety is not the real motive behind your ideas.

And this is what is resulting in your defensiveness. I can say that he isn't the only one who mentioned this, although he is the only one that's spoken out in the forum. I've had a LOT of people contacting me about the same thing. Now this probably isn't your true reason for being here but i thought i would just point out what is being said because of how you sometimes come across. It may well be down to the language barrier how you come across at times and i really hope it is.

I have been asked quite a lot as to the reasoning why reason why i am not  working with you on Revisited and  why i wouldn't give you a copy of the workprint. Also people have pretty much tried to tell me that it's down to artist jealousy. Well that isn't the case at all.  I really do think you are a talented person but we're working from two completely different ideals. It would just never work on a professional level. But the main reason i won't is due to other matters, which i was never going to speak about, but with so many emailing or PMing me accusing me of being pig headed, jealous and other stuff, i think i need to set the record straight. It  is because of the underhanded things you have done behind the scenes. I really do not appreciate someone who tries to trade clips or his work in order to get the exclusive clips etc i have posted in the past for donators (and this isn't just hear say because i have been sent your correspondence). I have kept quiet about this for a long time but too many people now have been contacting me telling me that i should give you a copy of the workprint, so i needed to explain why i wouldn't. I'm sorry, but i just couldn't trust you. I need to be able to work with people that i can trust completely not to let things slip out. You also seem unwilling to help anyone when asked. So many times have i seen people ask how you have done things, and this includes me asking you also. You just give a sarcastic or cryptic reply but not once have you given a proper reply. IF you are indeed here to help out with the project then why do you keep your methods so secret? It could really help others with their edits. This is another reason why people are starting to feel that you were just here for notoriety only.

 

Now i really need to catch up with all the comments made since the clip was posted before this thread got bogged down with the dagobah matte.