adywan

jedi_bendu said:

adywan said:

But the biggest problem is the ever increasing bond between Obi & Leia. The more they progress with this, the more she is a heartless bitch in ANH. That guy risked everything for her and she had this close bond. But she doesn’t even react when he is trapped and about to die in ANH? Yet the boy who has known him for 5 minutes reacts the opposite way? Wow. that calls her character into question. This should never have been Leia in this story. There is no peril because we know who survives.

This feels like a nitpick of what I think is the best part of the series. The relationship between Obi-wan and Leia is the beating heart of this story and I always love their scenes together. We don’t even really focus on Leia’s reaction to his duelling Vader in ANH, and though I’ll give you that Luke seems more sad about it than she does afterwards, I don’t think it’s anywhere near a good enough reason to justify not doing this story.

Hell, maybe Leia doesn’t remember much from when she was 9. I know I don’t.

No, it’s not a nitpick at all. This whole relationship that’s being portrayed in this series messes with the OT. Especially with Leia ending up being “The Other”. As it stood prior to this series, Ben was watching over Luke. He thought that Luke was the one that was their “only hope” and so did Yoda. But now, all of a sudden, we learn that he had this huge bond with leia. He got to know her and saw just how strong she is. While Luke is just out there playing pod racer. So why didn’t he see that she was the stronger one? That it was Leia that should have been trained ? Or at least trained as well? Obi-Wan is kind of a misogynistic dick now then isn’t he? Only a boy is good enough for them. 😉

Like i said before, this should have been Luke that Ben was out to rescue. He could have been captured by Slave traders or such and then, on the quest to find rescue Luke, Obi-Wan falls on the Empires radar. Then that bond could have been still present in the same way and it would have lead nicely into ANH. Because it’s obvious that Luke knows Ben. He recognises him straight away. “boy am i glad to see you”. Obi-Wan has rescued him again. And the emotional weight of Luke seeing Ben killed is enhanced ( even though it didn’t need to be).

Obi-Wan could have offered to find Luke and Owen reluctantly agrees after some persuasion from Beru. But once Luek is back with his family Owen is angry at Obi-Wan because of how close Vader came to learning he had offspring and painting a target on Luke’s back. He blames Obi-Wan for the Empire getting involved in this rescue. And he banishes Obi-Wan from ever having anything to do with Luke.

idir_hh said:

Feels like a few scenes were cut from the first act of the episode. We go from burned Bacta Obi to fully healed Jedi robes Obi in the span of a few seconds, Ice cube jr goes from “I’m not gonna help you” to “I’m all in” at a blink of an eye, and I have a feeling Wade and the girl were meant to have more of a presence earlier on to set up that ending…

This happened before in this show. One minute " i’m not going to help you" and the next “I’m helping you” with Haja Estree. It’s probably just how bad the writing is on this show. But if important contextual scenes have been cut then the showrunner is clueless when it comes to editing and story plotting. It’s far worse than " somehow Palpatine returned" yet people will still be bitching about that when this show does far worse

Ep4 was better than the first 3 eps. It even looked much better visually for the most part, But it still has problems, although not as many as previous eps. It does have problems with framing. Way too many wide shots. As if they were trying to show off the sets more than create an atmosphere. Everything seems to be a huge open and empty space. This ep should have had a claustrophobic feel to it. Tension. But it didn’t. At times it felt like there are a million writers, each not bothering to go over what the other has written.

We see Obi at the beginning of the ep struggling to even move a small object using the force, but then miraculously manages to hold back a whole ocean. The “nods” to the OT are getting a bit tiresome now. The ANH tractor beam scene…check. Escape only to have a tracker on the ship…check. OOH that’s where Vader gets the idea from. SMH.

And don’t get me started on that ridiculous escape with Lei hiding underneath Ben’s imperial cape. Jesus.

But the biggest problem is the ever increasing bond between Obi & Leia. The more they progress with this, the more she is a heartless bitch in ANH. That guy risked everything for her and she had this close bond. But she doesn’t even react when he is trapped and about to die in ANH? Yet the boy who has known him for 5 minutes reacts the opposite way? Wow. that calls her character into question. This should never have been Leia in this story. There is no peril because we know who survives.

The music is still as forgettable as ever. It fails miserably at conveying any sense of emotion during scenes that desperately need it. Maybe one or two points where it almost got there, but not quite.

But the speeders… my god did the effects on those things look bad. The way they moved looked so fake. They were done so much better 42 years ago with less technology.

One thing thing that is head and shoulders above everything else in this show is Vivien Lyra Blair. This kid is amazing. She out acted Moses Ingram during their scenes together in this ep.

Having said that though, this was far more enjoyable than the eps before it. But, with just 2 episodes left, i’m not holding out much hope that this will ever be anything more than a single watch only series. Completely forgettable.

Omni said:

Personally I thought Hayden nailed the way Prowse used to move this time around. Felt very Vader-y, much more than Rogue One. Pair that up with the new voice and damn, it really is him.

Hate to tell you, but it’s BS about Hayden being Vader throughout Kenobi. There are three people in the suit on this show. Hayden only when unmasked, General acting scenes is Dmitrious Bistrevsky and for stunts and fight sequences it is Tom O’Connell

jedi_bendu said:

Random point: I love how Vader looks in this scene. I’m not sure why but it reminds me of how he was lit in A New Hope. Does anyone else see it?

That really is a good example of how bad this show is shot. The lighting is horrendous. You have the damn stormtroopers in the background lit, yet the character that you are supposed to be focusing on is so flatly lit your eyes are drawn to the background instead of what you should be drawn to.

EvantheKidDS said:

doubleofive said:

EvantheKidDS said:

I know I shouldn’t bring this up again but, I did just realize something. Since you’re using Topaz to improve the existing 2011 Blu-Ray for ANH:R HD, why not attempt the same for ESB:R?

That is if you want to do it, as it is your choice and not mine, or anyone else’s.

(In some of the shots where Leia turns around to rescue Luke from Cloud City, the lighted buttons in the Falcon’s cockpit bleeds together.)

Didn’t you just ask this?

Yeah I know, but when I was reading back the update on ANH:R HD about how Ady was using Topaz to clean-up the 2011 Blu-Ray (when it was still on native 1080p) to improve the image quality for the same resolution, I thought about that when I was thinking that Ady used the 2004 DVD to create ESB:R, before he used Topaz to upscale from 720p to 1080p.

If i had used the 2004 DVD then it would have only been 480p, not 720p

Bridger12 said:

Are you aware of this one minor error in ROTJ, where the shadow of a prop lightsaber can be seen in a reflection? It’s when Vader is walking down the stairs of the throne room.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UNhUY-WmqAHhxT2F8iWS2-sNMGjR1MZz/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CtPqZ74doTx3aW1Y6OeXZrSrWARChfN-/view?usp=sharing

Yes, i was aware of this

Bridger12 said:

Are you aware of this one minor error in ROTJ, where the shadow of a prop lightsaber can be seen in a reflection? It’s when Vader is walking down the stairs of the throne room.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UNhUY-WmqAHhxT2F8iWS2-sNMGjR1MZz/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CtPqZ74doTx3aW1Y6OeXZrSrWARChfN-/view?usp=sharing

All your google drive links say that access is required to view. You need to provide access otherwise no one can see them

Bridger12 said:

Will the Blu-Rays have menus, too? I loved how the DVD for ANH:R was made in the style of the official 2004 DVDs, so I hope your Blu-Rays will match the official 2020 Blu-Ray menus, if it’s possible.

The official Blu-Ray menus are terrible. Just cheap looking. So the menus on the Revisited blu-rays will look nothing like them

They showed the entire original StarTours ride at the star tours panel at Celebration 22. Sadly it had the damn graphics covering the bottom portion of the video. But this is the best quality i’ve seen it

https://youtu.be/z9zeL52OYBM?t=8853

Bridger12 said:

adywan said:

Bridger12 said:

There’s one tiny thing I noticed in ANH:R. During the “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for” scene, the voice of the Stormtrooper is delayed by a second. Why is that?

There is no delay in the stormtooper voice in ANH:R. I think you are mistaking it with the “Ronto removal” clip i posted a few years back showing the HD version. All the sample clips i post of the HD version use a temp audio track, usually the 80’s stereo mix, which had a delay in the voice for some reason.

Oh. That makes sense. I’m still very curious to know what the audio codec will be for the Revisited Blu-Rays?

I have no idea yet. The blu-ray is likely to be 25gb. Partly because only a handful would want to download a 50gb file, (hell, i get complaints that an 8gb file takes too long for people to download) but also online storage to enable people to freely download is a major issue. I want to keep the video as high quality as possible. I ahve the ability now to encode a DTS-MA audio file, but the size is just under 5gb. That really eats into available space to fit on a BD-25.

Episode 3 started off with promise, but the inquisitors are just terrible and just ruin every scene they are in. Their acting and dialogue is atrocious. Much of the episode just felt like it was heavily padded out and you could have done away with half of it and it wouldn’t have affected anything. While better than the first two episodes , it is just by a small margin. But i wonder how much of that was just down to having vader on screen again.

The checkpoint scene had me scratching my head. Obi-wan attempts and fails to turn off the laser beams then shoots it to disable it. Why not just walk around it? Really, it was just blocking the road and empty spaces either side of the blockade, just a few metres across. Just bloody walk around it.

It’s obvious that they are using AI tech for vader’s voice, which works really well in this, and Vader sounds so much like his OT version instead of the weaker and older JEJ vocal used in Rebels and Rogue One. But there’s something not quite right about the costume. I’m not sure if its the way its shot or the costume itself, but it looks so plastic and cheap. More like an off the shelf mass produced item than something crafted and shot for a feature. The saber duel was THE WORSE in the entire saga. the blocking and execution was BAD. Sure, Obi-Wan is supposed to be weak in this , but that’s not what the problem was. It was so badly shot and edited. It looked so fake. This is supposed to be showing vader at his height? But all they did was show Vader just randomly killing civilians , which came off as just a lame attempt to show " oooh, he’s an evil badass". Vader can throw Obi-Wan all over the place, drag him through fire and torture him. But put a wall of fire in his way and he just stands there and watches Obi being rescued? From the same distance that he was able to lift obi-wan into the air. But he couldn’t stop a droid? And just let them escape. I guess vaders force abilities don’t work through fire… oh wait, didn’t vader just do exactly that just moments earlier? But they just stand there.

The duel did one thing though. It completely destroyed the duel in ANH. It destroyed the meaning in Vaders line to Obi-Wan. " when i left you i was but the learner, now I am the master". Yet Vader was shown to be far superior to obi-Wan during this brief duel. He was not a learner. He doesn’t see himself as such either according to this series. He was more powerful than Obi-Wan. I’ve always said that they should never duel in this series and everything i, and many others, were worried about came true in this one episode.

Ewans accent again is all over the place.

When Obi-Wan started to sense the “disturbance in the force”, THIS is the moment that he should have learned that Anakin was still alive. NOT being told by the inquisitor. It would have been a much more dramatic moment. More emotional .Why did they not do this? Was it really just to get that reveal at the end of Ep 2? They really dropped the ball on that one. Another example of just how b ad the writing is on this show.

Then we get the inquisitor magically finding the other end of the tunnel and beating leia to her destination. Convenient.

It’s just written and executed so badly. One or two good moments cannot rescue lame episodes. The bad outweighs the good i’m afraid.

3 eps in and i do have a feeling that some good editing to condense this over-stretched series into one movie length feature could pull something good out of it. But that depends on what is to come… 3 eps left and i’m not holding out much hope.

Bridger12 said:

There’s one tiny thing I noticed in ANH:R. During the “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for” scene, the voice of the Stormtrooper is delayed by a second. Why is that?

There is no delay in the stormtooper voice in ANH:R. I think you are mistaking it with the “Ronto removal” clip i posted a few years back showing the HD version. All the sample clips i post of the HD version use a temp audio track, usually the 80’s stereo mix, which had a delay in the voice for some reason.

Bridger12 said:

Fullmetaled said:

Telion said:

If I remember correctly Adywan did consider doing it and did some testing but it was too much work for something that ultimatly looked worse than no glow.

Really I’m surprised because a fan did the glow for the prequels lightsabers on YouTube and it looked great.

This video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dkGJxercO4

The ambient glow only works when the subject is fully lit, like in that video. Try doing it during the carbon chamber duel and it is impossible unless you recreate each character using CG & 100% match their moves because there is no visual information on Vader (especially his helmet) for the most part & other areas of each character. I did many test and decided it’s just not worth all the work, especially when so many shots would be impossible to convincingly add any ambient glow.

And there will be no HDR/ Dolby Vision colour grade. I see people ask this a lot, along with asking for a Dolby Atmos sound mix. I’m just a guy working on a home PC and not in a fully equipped professional studio. I just don;t have the facilities to be able to do things like this.

Hugely disappointed with this show.

Spoilers:

the beginning started out giving me some hope for this series. The “purge” scenes were handled better than in ROTS, however brief they were. Then we got to the inquisitors. Jesus, they looked worse than a cheap cosplay group. The Grand inquisitor was quite intimidating in the animated series, but here he just looked like Mr potato head dressed in ill fitting black costume. We have already seen his race in ROTS, and the animated character is based upon that race, so why does he look so bad in this? Then the acting for the most part is horrendous, the inquisitors being the worse offenders. So many scenes were ridiculous. They catch the jedi in the bar, the sister goes to cut him down with her sabre only to be stopped by the GI’s force use mid swing. But the saber is cutting into his shoulder. So why the hell didn’t he just move out the way? Instead he stands there and gives out this pathetic whimper and only runs off when the GI force pushes her away. And he gets away so easily. The fifth brother just basically stands there doing nothing.

Then we come to Obi-Wan. His introduction was nothing more than a rip off of Rey in The Force Awakens. She works hard scrubbing scrap she has collected, Ben working as a butcher. Rey goes back to her “home” , rehydrates the food , seeing it inflate, then sits outside and ponders, then is interrupted by the sound of BB-8. Ben goes back to his “home” , rehydrates the food, seeing it inflate and he sits outside and ponders then is interrupted by the sound of a Jawa. Then we get the “oh it was ben who got Luke the skyhopper model” moment. Jesus, not everything we see in the OT has to be bloody explained. When the Jedi asks Ben for help he refuses and it results in his death. Now all those who complain that “that wasn’t Luke in the sequels” dare not think this characterisation of obi-wan is any different. Because it’s not. Both are broken men. Both lost faith in the Jedi. Both refuse to help until persuaded by another party. But i guess they will called it " character building" or some such, for obi-wan because this isn’t the sequels. Yet he took pity and helped out the damn clone trooper later on?

The bickering with the inquisitors gets on your nerves after a while, especially with such bad acting.

Then we get the whole leia bit. These bits were a breath of fresh air after all that. the child who plays Leia was good. But the forest scenes looked like it was dragged from a standard US TV show. Very bad cinematography there.
So Ben is persuaded to go and look for leia, knowing the inquisitors would be after him. So, what does he do? Does he wear the same outfit that he is wearing on Tatooine? No, he decides the best way to not stand out is to dress like a bloody jedi. Really?

The first part of EP 2 is nothing more than fluff. he wasn’t interested in the jedi before yet he is suddenly excited about another jedi being on this planet? Turns out out be a con man. We see this guy happily con a woman and her child out of money. but later he just helps obi-wan? And Ewan keeps slipping into an american accent in places.

Now we get to the rooftop scenes. The worse part of this was the Sisters rooftop jumping. My god, that was laughably badly executed. You’d never guess she was on a wire 😉 And finally we get to the reveal. She tells him that anakin is still alive. But, wait a minute… How does she know that obi-wan thinks anakin is dead? That whole scene just seemed like it was rushed in there just so we could get the anakin reveal in the end, with the super wide head. Obi-Wan’s realisation that Anakin is still alive could have been handled so much better, but they screwed it, just for the Duff Duff moment ending ( UK peeps will probably get the eastenders reference here)

This suffers with the same problems BOBF did. And with them showing obi vs jango in the opening recap montage in ep 1, i’m half expecting Boba Fett to turn up at some point.

Hopefully things will get better. I’m going to stick with it until the end. But, after BOBF, i’m not expecting it to deliver anything more than a nostalgia trip for prequel fans with OT bits thrown in.

marioxb said:

True, but he’s not upscaling 4 or 6, only Empire, since he’s rendering the others in 1080p from the start.

While i’m not upscaling eps 4 & 6 as i’m working with native 1080p sources, i am still running them through the Topaz software to enhance the picture quality of the 2011 Blu-Ray for Ep 4. So all the repair work that i had to do because of the software problems, has to be done with these. Even with the latest version of the software, you still get these major problems that HAVE to be fixed. Lightsaber movement, laser blasts and frame flashes are especially problematic with the Topaz software causing all sorts of artefacts , mainly in following frames, but also in some preceding frames. Take the trench run, for instance. This is a different type of problem when working with many shots, especially when the ships are in the trench at a side view. The software doesn’t like fast moving bright objects. so, because the trench walls are made up of bright and dark sections in the frame as the trench wizzes past, the software creates glitches and artefacts in various parts of the frame. sometimes the top, sometimes on the next frame in an area that the previous frame was really bright, but now becomes dark and also around the ships too. This is a HELL of a lot of work to undertake to fix these issues, but the results are more than worth it. Because the 2011 blu-rays have an artificial grain added, this software works wonders at removing that without causing the side effects that grain removal software, like Neat Video, creates. Having a cleaner, grain free plate to work on is much better when adding effects than having to add a grain removal plugin that can cause loss of detail./ Yeh, topaz isn’t perfect and you do need to sometimes fix areas that the software has worked a bit too much, but that can be done at the same time as the other fixes needed. Once all the work is completed then i can add a natural 35mm grain throughout the movie.

Tantive3+1 said:

https://swrevisited.wordpress.com/2011/04/09/ars-details/

It says here on the Revisted WordPress page that there’s going to be a new Obi-Wan/Ben’s Hut matte that isn’t going to be the Theatrical or the SE ones that were used.

Is this still being considered?

yes. I won’t be using the SE version of the Hutt. Originally i was going to create a new model but i’m waiting to see if a better version appears in the Kenobi show before i decide what route to take.

Bridger12 said:

Adywan, please reconsider your decision to remove the extended Death Star battle sequence. It was one of the best parts! Almost everyone in the comment section of your April 3rd Facebook post agrees. We all think it should be kept in.

No, i won’t be reconsidering it. That section just does not work within ANH. If you look at the Death Star battle , the FX shots are tightly intercut with dialogue. there aren’t any long fx sequences without any form of dialogue until right at the very end as the tension is building between Luke & vader chase. But, even then, it’s nowhere near as long as the sequence i added when the TIEs appear. While something like this would work within the Death Star 2 battle in ROTJ, it just does not work for ANH.

BMadden said:

I thought the extended Death Star battle was brilliantly done just like the extended Hoth battle for ESB:R. I’m shocked and disappointed to hear that it won’t be a part of the HD version of ANH:R. 😦

But i didn’t extend the Hoth battle. It’s the same length with just all the on screen additions & replacement shots. I’ve seen a few people mention the same type of thing when talking about my plans to remove the extended bit i added for the SD version of ANH:R. Makes me wonder if a lot of the people worrying about it are getting what i said mixed up with all the additional space battles going on in the background throughout the battle & the other replacement shots i did.

Bridger12 said:

Since Adywan is using the Rogue One matte for the Death Star laser tunnel, does that mean he’ll have the Death Star plans look like how they do Rogue One, with the dish in the center?

I’m also curious if the Falcon targeting monitors in ANH:R HD are going to be the same as the SD version, or if they’ll revert back to the original version, since The Force Awakens shows them that way?

The Death Star plans during the briefing will be how they appeared in the SD version of ANH:R. But they will also tie into the originals as seen in Rogue One. You’ll just have to wait and see …

The Falcons targeting computer will be back to the original with a few tweaks

EvantheKidDS said:

What’s the plan for the “Look sir, droids!” scene?

I forgot to mention about this when talking about the changes between the SD version and the new HD version. The Special Edition footage will be removed. I wanted to do this originally when i was working on the SD version, but couldn’t pull off what i wanted to do. Even though in one of the behind the scenes docs ( i think it was the dewback one) that they claim to have found the original sandtrooper costumes used in ANH, they lied. What we see on screen in the Special edition sequence are ROTJ stormtroopers with sandtrooper bits added. The helmets are slightly squashed, same as the ROTJ ones and they have the solid black mouth. What you’ll see in the HD version will a slightly extended version of the original 1977 scene using accurate sandtroopers. The CG dewbacks really don’t hold up too well either, especially their riders.

IlFanEditore said:

Happy birthday, Adywan!

Thank you 😃

jedi_bendu said:

First full look at Vader in Obi-wan Kenobi, taken by Annie Leibovitz for Vanity Fair:

Thank god they didn’t go with the ROTS abomination helmet.

darkzip said:

I’ve got the upscale done. Looks great to me. I’ll do another post once I have it somewhere accessible to others.

search for it on thepiratebay

Thanks for doing this darkzip. I just checked it out. Unfortunately you used the NTSC version of ANH:R but didn’t remove the 2:3 pulldown first to return it to its native 23.976fps and has resulted in a 29.97fps file with multiple duplicate frame throughout, resulting in jerky playback. You’re best bet would have been to use the PAl version for the upscale. It has a higher resolution than the NTSC and would result in an even better result. You can then just change the framerate from 25fps to 23.976fps without having to reencode and remux with the NTSC audio

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Looking forward to it!
I’ve noticed with upscaling, the first frame of every new shot looks odd. As far as i know, the only way to fix this is to then upscale a rendered out scene in reverse, then replace those odd looking frames.
I believe Adywan did this with his upscaled ESB:R.
Do you plan on doing this as well?

Yeh, its a HUGE problem with the Topaz software that many people don’t catch when doing the upscales. It can also vary. what i found out when doing upscaling with that software is that the last frame of the previous shot bleeds into the next one creating bad artefacts, especially going from bright areas to dark. But most times you’ll find that the next 2 or 3 frames are also not as high quality because of this. So you have to replace between 2 -4 frames at the beginning of every shot throughout the film But also it hates lightasbers and lasers. Movement of bright images like then leaves a ghosting image and bad artefacts on the following frame. So you have to do one pass as normal, and then another pass using reversed footage, then replace every first 2-4 frames on every shot, replace just the areas in the frame which has problems due to moving bright areas ( lasers and sabers especially). But you also get shots that have problems using standard or reversed footage on the first or last frame that need to be fixed using alternate methods.

doubleofive said:

He meant bunk, not bunker.

Oh shit, yeh. Remind me not to post at 4am in the morning

Telion said:

adywan said:

I added the TFA bunker in ESB:R.

Um I am a bit confused does anyone know what Ady means by added The Force Awaken bunker to EP V? I couldn’t find anything in the ot,com posts and I’m not sure what bunker it is refering to.

EvantheKidDS said:

I don’t know much of the details of ROTJ:R, but I did feel a bit disappointed with the current information.

I grew up watching the Prequel + Original Trilogy. And, I always thought, Return of the Jedi was the most proper ending to the Skywalker Saga, especially since the Yub Nub Celebration song was swapped for the Victory Celebration song in the Special Edition; (I am sorry if I upset anyone who adore the Yub Nub song). But, as from what I’m reading so far, it seems as if ROTJ:R is going to be altered story-wise by a considerable extent. As for, it will be in favor of being a connection to The Force Awakens.

I wish there was some way to have a version where, ROTJ is the definitive ending, where the Sequel Trilogy doesn’t occur after that. (For purists) With two tracks, so one has the Yub Nub Celebration song, while the other has the Victory Celebration song.

Ady, if you read this post, you don’t have to go for this suggestion.

The “Luke on his own by the funeral pyre” ending was only and idea, which was dropped shortly after. The ending to ROTJ:R will be the 1983 version of the film. No planet montage, no Hayden and no Victory Celebration. I’m not sure where you get the impression that ROTJ is being drastically altered story wise. The only thing remotely like that is the additions to the space and ground battles. The Skywalker saga is 9 films, like it or not. I like the sequel trilogy so if i want to connect anything to that, then i will. I added the TFA bunker in ESB:R. I hate the prequels, but i still have connections to those added in my edits, so why not the sequels? And there won’t be 2 audio tracks for ROTJ. I really dislike the Victor Celebration music, even more when realising its just copy of a piece of music that was used as a rough guide from a Native American mini-series. I’ve always felt since 1997 that it sounds so out of place in the film, and now i know why

EvantheKidDS said:

Omni said:

Here: https://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/8778/

It looks better in many places because the upscale smoothed some of the hard edges in the Blu-ray, a result of crazy edge enhancement and artificial sharpening applied back in the early 2000s, very common stuff in the DVD era.

Well the reason I posted that was because, since the 4K Blu-Ray sources of ANH and ROTJ will be used for ANH:R and ROTJ:R respectively. And for a moment I thought, why shouldn’t ESB:R somehow get this treatment. I understand already that Topaz and re-rendering of shots was done but, the ESB 4K Blu-Ray exists.

ANH:R is using the 2011 blu-ray as its main source. The 2020 blu-rays are only being used to replace a few shots. The ESB 4k blu-rays look like garbage. The picture has been cropped and horizontally stretched for some unknow reason, horrible static grain throughout and the badly executed use of power windows to brighten or darken certain areas of the frame (the last two plaguing all 3 films). While ROTJ was the worse transfer for the 2011 blu-rays, ESB is for the 2020 versions. If you want to see just how bad the power windows masking has been done, check out ANH during the escape from the Death Star when leia says " we’ve lost the lateral controls". Keep your eye on the falcons windows and you can see the mask isn’t even tracked to the cockpit windows and its not only bleeding all over it , but moving all over the place. The only reason why i’m using the 2020 bluray for ROTJ is because of the huge problems with the 2011 release, but there is so much work to be done to fix all the problems with the new release. Many of the FX shots were re-rendered @ native 1080p for ESB:R 1080p release so it isn’t purely an upscale. And, as the screenshots posted earlier shows, the upscale look better than the native 1080p blu-ray anyway. And i’m certainly not going to go back and spend years redoing ESB just to replace the footage with the inferior 2020 version.

EvantheKidDS said:

G&G-Fan said:

Then why should it matter? Revisited literally looks better then the 4K release of ESB (which looks so desaturated it looks like it was graded by Zack Snyder). The upscale also looks perfect at 1080p. So there’s no issue.

Well, check 34:28. If you look closely at one of the struts that supports the windows of the Falcon’s cockpit, there is an issue there but, I don’t remember what it was, either too smooth, or too bent. (It’s been a while since I saw the 1080p ESB:R…)

But, if there isn’t a issue there, would you mind letting me know?

Well this is the shot @34:28 , so i have no idea what you mean.

Whoever did this new matte shot for the 4k TMP Directors edition should get fired. did anyone even bother to check their work? The new matte created for the DVD Directors Edition looked fine, but when they recreated it for the 4k version, no care seems to have gone into it at all. The whole thing looks horrendous. (#1 is just speculation on my part as to what have caused this anomaly, but it does look like this is a likely method used to blend the matte overlay into the background in order to not have to rotoscope each individual character.)

In fact, the original matte looks 100 times better

Tantive3+1 said:

adywan said:

15 - Fixed Vaders helmet during the Death Star battle where it has slipped back due to being pressed against the TIE
fighter seat

Vaders eye looks a little too reddish here.

I’m not sure why his eye looks so red in that screengrab, because it doesn’t look as saturated on my edit timeline.

I’ve just updated the first post with details of some of the changes that will be in the HD version of ANH:R, including some new comparison pics (scroll down to the bottom of the post)

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/STAR-WARS-EP-IV-2004-REVISITED-ADYWAN-1080p-HD-VERSION-NOW-IN-PRODUCTION/id/5942/page/1#227377